Originally Posted by Lexylou

I love glasgow. One of my most favourite cities in the world, after San Fran. Used to work on West George street......LOVE the shops, the bars, the people. Are you leaving to go to NZ?

Originally Posted by Swizzle stick

Campbell I understand what you are saying regarding, the rot has to be stopped.

Do you not think comparing pre and post South Africa 1994 and New Zealand today is a bit ridiculous?

Originally Posted by Campbells

Perhaps the truth is too painful? I actually don’t have all the answers but I do know that having lived in South Africa we went from living in relatively low crime to nearly a war zone in a space of 10 years. I am talking post 94.

This is how it all started, one or two here & there and then three or four and before you know it it’s into the hundred then thousands. It is like a rot that once it gets a grip it spreads rapidly. They say that if you drop a frog into a pot of cold water and turn up the heat slowly he’ll be happy to stay in there but if you drop the frog in hot water?

I can say that it is a lot less painful being alert of the increase in such crimes and I am glad that in NZ people do come out in action, like with the kiddie spanking thing going on.

I see lots of situations in business where you look at the Kiwi way and think, gee, this is jurrasic we moved on from this ten years ago but in NZ it is still popular practice. A lot of people are reluctant to change or perhaps fear it. I really don’t think the Kiwis are all that naive but are pretty complacent.

Did you see Once Were Warriors? Make’s Fintry look like an attractive place to move to!

Off topic: Do you do much travelling around Scotland with your job? Interesting your comments on Dundee. St Andrews is magic and I used to spend lots of time at Leuchars. One of my fav places was Tullybachart (Sp) and through the back roads to Perth. Dunkeld has a great vibe too. Ahh, a Forfar bridie – a real one.

Of course, a good plate of soup!

Cheers

Originally Posted by eileen35

hi there,
yeah we are hoping to get over in september.
Glasgow is a great city,though pretty nasty for knife crimes,fights etc.apart from that,
We are leaving due to Polish migrants ,working for next to nothing pay and making it very hard for my hubby to make a decent wage . hes in construction. so we want to see if we can make a go of it in n.z.
Got to try anyway,will regret not trying.
The shops are going to be hard to live without though

Originally Posted by mickey_d

Truth be known, crime rates are actually higher in New Zealand than UK.
http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/worldstatistics.htm

Interesting eh!!!

Originally Posted by Campbells

Not what I said. I thought you told your GF that you can multi-task?

I said 10 years post SA i.e. 1994 - 2004


Cheers

Originally Posted by simonmarkellis

Is it not more that New Zealand in one of the countries with the highest reported crime rates. http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...ime-rates.html

Being a little synical, in that with statistics you can prove anything, that in a country with a population less than a 10th of the UK, that a greater percentage of crimes are actually reported, because it is easier to report the crime and there might be greater expectation of a positive result.

Whereas in the UK a vast percentage of crimes go un reported.

Worth a thought...

Originally Posted by Cava Fizz

If what you said is a fact would you mind providing a link?

Originally Posted by Lexylou

Dunkled is great..... one of the best places to live ever in my very very humble opinion.....What were you doing at Leuchars? not plane watching???? !!!! Dont you miss an arbroath smokie? I just love them. Oh and my local cafe has the BEST soup I have ever had. The other day it was parsnip and hazelnut. Stunning is the only word for it.

Originally Posted by Lexylou

Yes worth a thought.....you could well be right
I had a car dive into our dining room in christchurch and boy was it hard to get anything done. Sat in that station over the river from the strip for many an hour trying to get facts and get things reported.......

Where are your statistics showing that a VAST percentage of crimes go un reported in the UK and that most get reported in NZ? or is that just speculation?

Originally Posted by Hava Pizz

But hey why let get facts get in the way, eh campbells

Originally Posted by Campbells

Have you lived in Dunkeld?

Yeah, I confess I have a wee fetish for planes.

The smokie, ahhhh. Sorry but it’s gotta be with a poached egg.

Gee, parsnip & hazelnut soup, there’s one. I had macadamia nut soup here in NZ which was awesome. Butternut soup. I’ m a sucker for good old broth with Arbroath roll. Gee, that just popped into my head. Fridge-raid coming on ……….

Do you remember Wallace’s tearoom in Dundee? The best bridies.

So if you went to Dundee Uni you will know a few of the pubs. We used to go most of the art college & Uni gigs on Fridays. Trying to remember the name of the bars, Frews and something else in Westport? We used to get the tickets there. Then up the Perth Road, the Taybridge, Mennies, The Grosvner , Laings ( live bands downstairs). The original Grouchos, the dude’s that started that played in a band Skeets Boliver (sp). Trying to remember the clubs, the one next to the Burgerhouse in the Nethergait.

Gee, lots of memories there. I have lost touch with my best mate from Dundee for three years now. Last saw him in 99.

Hey, look at the time 01:56 problem with laptops !

Cheers

Hey I like the Princess Lia look. I’m a bit of a Star Wars fan, hence checking out the x-wings @ Leuchars

Originally Posted by simonmarkellis

Experience - 12 1/2 yrs working for the Met Police, the last 2 as a criminal analyst.The real truth is that statistics are only as good as the information supplied.