question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
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question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
Just a quick question for those planning on coming over to escape Brexit.
What is it you are hoping to leave behind, and why do you think NZ will be different??
Just curious
What is it you are hoping to leave behind, and why do you think NZ will be different??
Just curious
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
I would say Brexit (if it ever comes to pass in any form it may take) would be small beer to the deranged Corbynista getting the vote.
Then you really will see them queuing up at AKL passport control ..
Then you really will see them queuing up at AKL passport control ..
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Is it just escaping all the news and media coverage?
What?
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
I just read an article today by the NY times which i feel accurately describes the incompetence of the way it is being dealt with and perhaps one of the reasons so many are tying to escape it.
By Pankaj Mishra
Please click Spoiler to view entire article.
The Malign Incompetence of the British Ruling Class
With Brexit, the chumocrats who drew borders from India to Ireland are getting a taste of their own medicine.By Pankaj Mishra
Spoiler:
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I just read an article today by the NY times which i feel accurately describes the incompetence of the way it is being dealt with and perhaps one of the reasons so many are tying to escape it.
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The Malign Incompetence of the British Ruling Class
With Brexit, the chumocrats who drew borders from India to Ireland are getting a taste of their own medicineBy that I mean the referendum for the UK to leave the EU.
Also their own successive governments/MPs which they elect in/out?
The thread is about the reasons folks are thinking to emigrate to NZ and leave the UK due to Brexit. I am mindful of that & to not take the topic off course in this to yet another brexit for/against debate which BE has a-plenty.
So. Is it those that voted to remain that now seek to emigrate as far away as poss ?
Or those that voted to leave now seeking to emigrate now they see how such an exit evolves and what is involved ?
Or those that may have voted either way or not at all that are now concerned in some way.
What are the concerns ?
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So do you then think that people are wanting to escape their own choices then or the choices of others ?
By that I mean the referendum for the UK to leave the EU.
Also their own successive governments/MPs which they elect in/out?
The thread is about the reasons folks are thinking to emigrate to NZ and leave the UK due to Brexit. I am mindful of that & to not take the topic off course in this to yet another brexit for/against debate which BE has a-plenty.
So. Is it those that voted to remain that now seek to emigrate as far away as poss ?
Or those that voted to leave now seeking to emigrate now they see how such an exit evolves and what is involved ?
Or those that may have voted either way or not at all that are now concerned in some way.
What are the concerns ?
By that I mean the referendum for the UK to leave the EU.
Also their own successive governments/MPs which they elect in/out?
The thread is about the reasons folks are thinking to emigrate to NZ and leave the UK due to Brexit. I am mindful of that & to not take the topic off course in this to yet another brexit for/against debate which BE has a-plenty.
So. Is it those that voted to remain that now seek to emigrate as far away as poss ?
Or those that voted to leave now seeking to emigrate now they see how such an exit evolves and what is involved ?
Or those that may have voted either way or not at all that are now concerned in some way.
What are the concerns ?
I think it is a combination of both, the remain voters will certainly be more attracted to leave and go abroad as they are afraid of being trapped in a country they will no longer recognize whose views they don't share. The leave voters which i think this article describes well are now actually worried that their politicians who promised them a easy transition and a more prosperous nation are actually so incompetent that they going to sabotage any deal which would be disastrous. I feel many of these people will be more inclined to leave the UK if they continue to be convinced that the actions of MP's will not provide the sort of Brexit they were promised
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
But how can they expect the Brexit they were promised when most of the promises where based on lies.?
My husband bought us over back in 2012 because of what he saw as further problems for the UK because of the powers that be. He was actually looking at Australia but after 6 months of going through the application he pulled the plug on that because of Australian Government and how they were running Australia. Now NZ seemed ok to him as its Government didn't seem to be doing, err well, much at all really at that time.
My husband bought us over back in 2012 because of what he saw as further problems for the UK because of the powers that be. He was actually looking at Australia but after 6 months of going through the application he pulled the plug on that because of Australian Government and how they were running Australia. Now NZ seemed ok to him as its Government didn't seem to be doing, err well, much at all really at that time.
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
But how can they expect the Brexit they were promised when most of the promises where based on lies.?
My husband bought us over back in 2012 because of what he saw as further problems for the UK because of the powers that be. He was actually looking at Australia but after 6 months of going through the application he pulled the plug on that because of Australian Government and how they were running Australia. Now NZ seemed ok to him as its Government didn't seem to be doing, err well, much at all really at that time.
My husband bought us over back in 2012 because of what he saw as further problems for the UK because of the powers that be. He was actually looking at Australia but after 6 months of going through the application he pulled the plug on that because of Australian Government and how they were running Australia. Now NZ seemed ok to him as its Government didn't seem to be doing, err well, much at all really at that time.
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Assuming Theresa May won't find support, which seems likely, and Bank of England's forecast for a no-deal scenario is correct I expect we'll see more interest if the UK actually exits the EU. Until then any impact will likely be very limited.
Personally I believe the UK will delay making a final decision on article 50 (i.e. beyond March), probably waiting until the subsequent election or referendum has taken place. There is a democratic dichotomy where the referendum outcome is at odds with the current stated views of elected MPs and those are the only two ways of resolving that difference. The fundamental issue was, subsequent to the referendum, there was no prevailing societal nor political consensus reached.
My feeling is that the best option for brexit proponents would be as a second (binding) referendum on three options (i.e. Out, EU deal or In) as they could split the vote. It seems unlikely that they would ever win support via parliament.
Personally I believe the UK will delay making a final decision on article 50 (i.e. beyond March), probably waiting until the subsequent election or referendum has taken place. There is a democratic dichotomy where the referendum outcome is at odds with the current stated views of elected MPs and those are the only two ways of resolving that difference. The fundamental issue was, subsequent to the referendum, there was no prevailing societal nor political consensus reached.
My feeling is that the best option for brexit proponents would be as a second (binding) referendum on three options (i.e. Out, EU deal or In) as they could split the vote. It seems unlikely that they would ever win support via parliament.
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
Assuming Theresa May won't find support, which seems likely, and Bank of England's forecast for a no-deal scenario is correct I expect we'll see more interest if the UK actually exits the EU. Until then any impact will likely be very limited.
Personally I believe the UK will delay making a final decision on article 50 (i.e. beyond March), probably waiting until the subsequent election or referendum has taken place. There is a democratic dichotomy where the referendum outcome is at odds with the current stated views of elected MPs and those are the only two ways of resolving that difference. The fundamental issue was, subsequent to the referendum, there was no prevailing societal nor political consensus reached.
My feeling is that the best option for brexit proponents would be as a second (binding) referendum on three options (i.e. Out, EU deal or In) as they could split the vote. It seems unlikely that they would ever win support via parliament.
Personally I believe the UK will delay making a final decision on article 50 (i.e. beyond March), probably waiting until the subsequent election or referendum has taken place. There is a democratic dichotomy where the referendum outcome is at odds with the current stated views of elected MPs and those are the only two ways of resolving that difference. The fundamental issue was, subsequent to the referendum, there was no prevailing societal nor political consensus reached.
My feeling is that the best option for brexit proponents would be as a second (binding) referendum on three options (i.e. Out, EU deal or In) as they could split the vote. It seems unlikely that they would ever win support via parliament.
The first referendum was binding. It was simple... do you want to leave or remain?..... not do you want to leave or remain under circumstances to be agreed later.
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re: question for those looking to emigrate to NZ from the UK - re. Brexit
I was hoping to hear from hopeful migrants, not just to have yet another he said, she said boring, back and forward pointless argument about should they stay or should they go and who's to blame
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Ps as an aside a ‘Colin’ in Uk as a ‘Derek’ is in Oz 🤣
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To be fair, I have seen a number of would-be immigrants writing that this brexit thing was a motivation to emigrate away from the UK.