This puts me right off New Zealand!
#33
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Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
More to the point I wonder what all those mockers must think now and whether they have had a change of heart. It makes for the sickest reading I have seen in quite some time.
#34
Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
Yet again I agree with you...they all brought it on themselves almost...any in Christchurch I wonder? Imz you were right and always were right. Grass isn't always greener! Lol at least I'm consistent.
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Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
if you worry too much, Why bother?
haven't had a change of heart.
#38
Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
But - what about all those poor people who were flooded out in Hull/Gloucestershire areas a couple of years ago? They were pretty serious too (and in some cases life threatening) but does that mean people should leave and live elsewhere? There's so much that could kill you in life - sitting here looking out at a volcano and wondering what would happen if Auckland were to get hit - I still wouldn't change doing what we've done in coming here. I still feel safer on a daily basis than I did living in London!
I'm not in Christchurch but all my in laws and some close friends from the UK are. Even with earthquakes they have no intention of moving/no regrets about leaving the UK in the first place. I have family in Wellington who feel exactly the same.
Houses and posessions can be rebuilt and replaced. People are irreplaceable - what a wonder it was that no lives were lost, unlike the horrors in Pakistan and Haiti. I'd say that's a testament to a country being prepared for natural disasters such as this one (and the fact that it was early in the morning helped too?).
End of me soapbox again
#39
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Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
Houses and posessions can be rebuilt and replaced. People are irreplaceable - what a wonder it was that no lives were lost, unlike the horrors in Pakistan and Haiti. I'd say that's a testament to a country being prepared for natural disasters such as this one (and the fact that it was early in the morning helped too?).
Most of our hospitals and emergency services are in dire straits as they are and would never cope with a serious influx of patients. Here's just one patient's view of the 'healthcare' she did (or didn't) receive in one of our hospitals in the past few weeks.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health/new...ectid=10672487
#40
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Quite frankly I think people are kidding themselves if they think this country is prepared for a serious disaster, particularly if there were massive loss of lives or injuries. There for the grace of God (or whoever else you believe in) that the scenes in Christchurch weren't another Haiti, it would have been a completely different picture if it had been just a few hours earlier or later, when people were out and about in the CBD. More luck than judgement in my opinion.
Most of our hospitals and emergency services are in dire straits as they are and would never cope with a serious influx of patients. Here's just one patient's view of the 'healthcare' she did (or didn't) receive in one of our hospitals in the past few weeks.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health/new...ectid=10672487
Most of our hospitals and emergency services are in dire straits as they are and would never cope with a serious influx of patients. Here's just one patient's view of the 'healthcare' she did (or didn't) receive in one of our hospitals in the past few weeks.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health/new...ectid=10672487
Actually I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the construction of houses also. Not all of the buildings survived as we know, there were dangerous situations from chimneys falling down etc. Yes, it was lucky that it was not later in the day, however the Haiti earthquake took 230,000 lives. The large loss of life is to do with a lot of reasons, you really can't compare the two situations. NZ is what it is.
We can find dire situations, "evidence", stats, surveys, stories and anecdotal evidence to back up whatever claim you make. It all comes down to being a personal decision that individuals have to make with the information available to them . Fearing earthquakes is very valid, but we take greater risks everyday in life (I know, I have to negotiate Streatham High Road everyday). There are lots of dangerous situations everywhere in the world, there would be a lot of wonderful countries that we would never visit or different cultures we would never experience if we based every travelling decision on tragic events that have occurred.
I'm sorry but it does come across that you are quite bitter. I know your experiences have not been that great in NZ, but only you have you the power and ability to change that. It's sensible to be aware of the risks, but it's very easy to slip into a negative mindset. If I believed all the hype about knife crime in London, I would honestly never step out of the house, ditto the state of the hospitals
#41
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I honest to goodness do think I'd rather take my chances with the natural things here in NZ than the dreadful things I saw living around London (and I've experienced quakes before just not of the Christchurch magnitude).
The aftershocks are still going in Christchurch are they not, some of them rather nasty? Yet the report from my in laws is that their stuff is surviving. That must have something to do with the construction!
Years ago, they used to teach emergency stuff in schools, my hubby was saying. My sis in law at quake time had her emergency kit all ready, bottled water, tins etc to hand. All of which came in useful. Not sure if they teach it any more but hope they reintroduce it into schools after this.
#42
Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
yeah well I'm surprised there is anyone one left living in California or Japan, surely [don't call me] they've all evacuated.....maybe no body gets out of bed in those places, maybe they spend all their lives under their duvets waiting for the next 'big one'.
The thing is that humans will always take risks when it comes to where they live, if that is building houses on flood plains [unbelievably risky] or building houses on a fault line, LA or CHCH.
Actually there is a fault line running through our back yard, but at least I get out bed every morning fighting fit ready to take on the world!!
The thing is that humans will always take risks when it comes to where they live, if that is building houses on flood plains [unbelievably risky] or building houses on a fault line, LA or CHCH.
Actually there is a fault line running through our back yard, but at least I get out bed every morning fighting fit ready to take on the world!!
#43
Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
Ahhh that used to be my life No more I am delighted to say I love it here Is there no opportunity for you to get out?
I honest to goodness do think I'd rather take my chances with the natural things here in NZ than the dreadful things I saw living around London (and I've experienced quakes before just not of the Christchurch magnitude).
The aftershocks are still going in Christchurch are they not, some of them rather nasty? Yet the report from my in laws is that their stuff is surviving. That must have something to do with the construction!
Years ago, they used to teach emergency stuff in schools, my hubby was saying. My sis in law at quake time had her emergency kit all ready, bottled water, tins etc to hand. All of which came in useful. Not sure if they teach it any more but hope they reintroduce it into schools after this.
I honest to goodness do think I'd rather take my chances with the natural things here in NZ than the dreadful things I saw living around London (and I've experienced quakes before just not of the Christchurch magnitude).
The aftershocks are still going in Christchurch are they not, some of them rather nasty? Yet the report from my in laws is that their stuff is surviving. That must have something to do with the construction!
Years ago, they used to teach emergency stuff in schools, my hubby was saying. My sis in law at quake time had her emergency kit all ready, bottled water, tins etc to hand. All of which came in useful. Not sure if they teach it any more but hope they reintroduce it into schools after this.
Depends of a few things but we hope to return soon(ish). I am dreadfully homesick, but we want to make sure that if we move we do it sensibly (if it was down to me we would be on a plane tomorrow!!!). In the meantime we are enjoying the UK, we both have good and settled jobs here so will hold on for a bit before the big leap!! I can't wait
#44
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Re: This puts me right off New Zealand!
Don't move to NZ you might get caught in an earthquake.
Don't get on a plane to anywhere as it might crash.
Be careful in the UK you might get shanked.
Or get a grip and grow a pair.