Proof Kiwi rip-off housing!
Sep 25th 2013, 8:07 am
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Sep 25th 2013, 8:26 am
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I believe my eyes are wide open. Those who think Auckland has affordable family housing are the ones with their eyes shut.
My line of work is in IT, specifically infrastructure, planning and design. Thus, 99% of the job opportunities in my field, especially here in NZ are in central Auckland or Wellington. Heck - a lot of the IT jobs that were on the N. Shore have gone south of the bridge now are are in the central city.
I don't think I am being unrealistic, I am prepared to live 30,50 or 80k's out and commute, so long as commuting is actually reasonable and doesn't add 4 hours to your day, I may as well go back to Epsom or Reigate if I want that! One thing I am considering is the ferry service from the Coromandel.
Realistically, I have to accept that until the government either get building affordable homes in central, or add rail to the outskirts of Auckland, I cannot buy a house here. Whilst that is not the start and end of everything, there is a reason why I work long hours, service a student loan and save. After 11 years of renting - I'm tired of it.
You are right in what you say, hence why I am planning a move home. Where you can get a 30-40-50K GBP job and buy a nice house for 140-180K GBP - far more realistic! At the same time there is cheap travel, Europe and many more accessible places on the doorstep.
I love New Zealand, I have a good life here and I can't explain how frustrating it is that me and my partner will have to go home despite doing well for ourselves here and that I actually have a job that I like!
To the person who talked about rolls-royce cars being a rip off, that really isn't the point. A wooden shed with a tin roof certainly is not a rolls in the housing world and to be paying 600-800K for one is certain madness.
I see my only other option to stay in NZ is to do a career change so that I can live in the cheaper regions of NZ.
My line of work is in IT, specifically infrastructure, planning and design. Thus, 99% of the job opportunities in my field, especially here in NZ are in central Auckland or Wellington. Heck - a lot of the IT jobs that were on the N. Shore have gone south of the bridge now are are in the central city.
I don't think I am being unrealistic, I am prepared to live 30,50 or 80k's out and commute, so long as commuting is actually reasonable and doesn't add 4 hours to your day, I may as well go back to Epsom or Reigate if I want that! One thing I am considering is the ferry service from the Coromandel.
Realistically, I have to accept that until the government either get building affordable homes in central, or add rail to the outskirts of Auckland, I cannot buy a house here. Whilst that is not the start and end of everything, there is a reason why I work long hours, service a student loan and save. After 11 years of renting - I'm tired of it.
You are right in what you say, hence why I am planning a move home. Where you can get a 30-40-50K GBP job and buy a nice house for 140-180K GBP - far more realistic! At the same time there is cheap travel, Europe and many more accessible places on the doorstep.
I love New Zealand, I have a good life here and I can't explain how frustrating it is that me and my partner will have to go home despite doing well for ourselves here and that I actually have a job that I like!
To the person who talked about rolls-royce cars being a rip off, that really isn't the point. A wooden shed with a tin roof certainly is not a rolls in the housing world and to be paying 600-800K for one is certain madness.
I see my only other option to stay in NZ is to do a career change so that I can live in the cheaper regions of NZ.
Sep 25th 2013, 11:32 pm
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Sorry for my earlier post Davros, it was neither constructive nor helpful. What time are you willing to leave home for your drive into the city? Pukekohe is a very, very affordable option. It's a lovely town and has rail links into Britomart. If you leave home at 6.15am (ish) - you can be in town within approx 45 mins driving. As for the train - I've never used it myself, but plenty of people do. Patumahoe is the next little town along from Pukekohe. You can get a new-build B&T house and land package for approx $500k. You can buy existing homes in Pukekohe and Patumahoe for cheaper than that. Take a look, you might be pleasantly surprised by the area. All the best.
Puke or Patumahoe are on my list of possible purchases. I don't want immigrants moving in and pushing up the prices! 
I reckon that train line will improve and then prices will shoot up.
Sep 28th 2013, 2:21 am
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11131182
Reading this in the paper today warning aucklanders about volcano risk and glad i can't afford a house
Reading this in the paper today warning aucklanders about volcano risk and glad i can't afford a house
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Sep 28th 2013, 10:30 am
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11131182
Reading this in the paper today warning aucklanders about volcano risk and glad i can't afford a house
Reading this in the paper today warning aucklanders about volcano risk and glad i can't afford a house
Sep 28th 2013, 2:00 pm
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Really?! As a Kiwi you'd give in to this melodrama volcano stuff? Where are you going to live then? Because this, or other natural disasters and 'unspeakable atrocities' are apparently happening everywhere. Hmmmm, Norfolk Island sounds good. They did their atrocities 150 years ago. Will they be safe from a tsunami? Hmmm, doubt it.
Sep 28th 2013, 11:37 pm
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Sorry for my earlier post Davros, it was neither constructive nor helpful. What time are you willing to leave home for your drive into the city? Pukekohe is a very, very affordable option. It's a lovely town and has rail links into Britomart. If you leave home at 6.15am (ish) - you can be in town within approx 45 mins driving. As for the train - I've never used it myself, but plenty of people do. Patumahoe is the next little town along from Pukekohe. You can get a new-build B&T house and land package for approx $500k. You can buy existing homes in Pukekohe and Patumahoe for cheaper than that. Take a look, you might be pleasantly surprised by the area. All the best.
Of course, now that plan to move back and buy a semi is at risk. Snapshot and pippa etc you may be interested in this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24319583
They have brought forward the second phase of right-to-buy, so expect property prices to now start going up outside of London. All this nonsense about 6% house prices increases in the UK is only true because of London. Again - the arsehole of the UK that is the South East which gets way too much bias and favourtism by the media. But yes, sadly, prices across the rest of the UK will now most likely start going up.
With regards to the areas you mention MarbleP - thanks for that. For me, driving is not really an option so I am reliant on public transport for work. We have 1 car and the mrs uses that for her job. So I'd need to be able to commute in 3-4 days a week by train or bus. I could drive in time, but driving makes me so angry in Auckland that it really would want to make me leave. As you say, fingers crossed that the train service gets improved.
Sep 28th 2013, 11:58 pm
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I would add though that those of you who have been critical, must fall into one of the following:
* you bought a house here at least a few years ago when they were dirt cheap
* you have a lot of working capital so you don't have to start from scratch here
* you are in complete denial and are putting on a brave face
* you're too young to care about home ownership or starting a family
* you have a job that allows you to work and live outside of auckland
those who are critical of pippalonghorn, snapshot, myself and countless others should be careful as I believe we represent the actual reality of NZ that most young couples, young families and families in general face today.
* you bought a house here at least a few years ago when they were dirt cheap
* you have a lot of working capital so you don't have to start from scratch here
* you are in complete denial and are putting on a brave face
* you're too young to care about home ownership or starting a family
* you have a job that allows you to work and live outside of auckland
those who are critical of pippalonghorn, snapshot, myself and countless others should be careful as I believe we represent the actual reality of NZ that most young couples, young families and families in general face today.
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Sep 29th 2013, 1:07 am
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Really?! As a Kiwi you'd give in to this melodrama volcano stuff? Where are you going to live then? Because this, or other natural disasters and 'unspeakable atrocities' are apparently happening everywhere. Hmmmm, Norfolk Island sounds good. They did their atrocities 150 years ago. Will they be safe from a tsunami? Hmmm, doubt it.
A good website is www.geonet.co.nz to keep track of quakes and volcanoes in the nz region
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Sep 29th 2013, 10:20 am
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Davros!!!! I'll send you a pm tomorrow.
Sep 29th 2013, 10:40 am
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Sep 29th 2013, 10:47 am
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Well after living through 6xmajor earthquakes in the Christchurch region recently, I no longer have the "won't happen here" mentality. So Yes I would definitely give in to the "melodrama volcano stuff", but hey each to their own.
A good website is www.geonet.co.nz to keep track of quakes and volcanoes in the nz region
A good website is www.geonet.co.nz to keep track of quakes and volcanoes in the nz region
Sep 29th 2013, 10:50 am
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Seeing as though I was not able to respond to bellasmum's comments on the other thread, I shall do it here as that was blatantly a statement of intent.
I agree with the comment about my comment on driving, that was meant as a wind-up.
However...
She said:
"By the way you were given some sound advice about good areas more in your price range, have you given them any thought?
I suspect not."
For your information, today I spent 3-4 hours down in Pukekohe. I also visited Patumahoe and Waikuku. I will completely admit that I was pleasantly surprised - I could live there. I hope now you have gone and eaten your own words and realised how stupid your comment was.
It took approximately 45 minutes to get there from the central city (which is ok for me). However.... the claims that the new houses are affordable there... again, highly debatable. You live quite a way out of the city and in Patumahoe, the houses there start from $585,000 (even though they advertise them starting from $429,000). That is clearly way above first home buyer territory.
Waiuku however did have a couple under 500K, but you are quite a way from the city there and you've had to live with an hour commute each way in good commute times (let alone rush hour).
There are other 3-bed properties though for sale around the 400K mark that tempt me, but it is quite a commute out. As I said above, if and when the train service gets better - it would be a good option.
After seeing a good majority of the houses there, it makes me realise how stupid people are for paying such money for generally inferior houses (wood and tin rooves) on the shore, out west and the central city.
MarbleP - looking forward to your PM and again, thanks for the recommendations.
I agree with the comment about my comment on driving, that was meant as a wind-up.
However...
She said:
"By the way you were given some sound advice about good areas more in your price range, have you given them any thought?
I suspect not."
For your information, today I spent 3-4 hours down in Pukekohe. I also visited Patumahoe and Waikuku. I will completely admit that I was pleasantly surprised - I could live there. I hope now you have gone and eaten your own words and realised how stupid your comment was.
It took approximately 45 minutes to get there from the central city (which is ok for me). However.... the claims that the new houses are affordable there... again, highly debatable. You live quite a way out of the city and in Patumahoe, the houses there start from $585,000 (even though they advertise them starting from $429,000). That is clearly way above first home buyer territory.
Waiuku however did have a couple under 500K, but you are quite a way from the city there and you've had to live with an hour commute each way in good commute times (let alone rush hour).
There are other 3-bed properties though for sale around the 400K mark that tempt me, but it is quite a commute out. As I said above, if and when the train service gets better - it would be a good option.
After seeing a good majority of the houses there, it makes me realise how stupid people are for paying such money for generally inferior houses (wood and tin rooves) on the shore, out west and the central city.
MarbleP - looking forward to your PM and again, thanks for the recommendations.