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Am Loolah Nov 28th 2009 10:26 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 

Originally Posted by frogeye (Post 8130707)
Seems to be an NZ problem.
We were in a hotel that seemed to be the midnight magnet for the local nutters on bikes and card (hoons are they?).
We remembered same problem from 6 years back and no change, so only thing to do was to move. We moved room to the other side of the hotel - problem solved.

As no one is in a rush to solve your problem then I guess that is what you will have to do - move.

Are the disclosure rules the same as here in the UK, where you have to report any problems you have had or reported? It certainly cuts down on the complaints if you know they have to be reported if you move.

I know of one ex colleague who had a similar problem with a noisy neighbour, he slotted the bloke, spent a night in nick and sold up and moved out. He only mentioned that he had a disagreement with a neighbour but not why.

Must be somewhere quieter you can move to?

I disagree that it is a problem specific to NZ. I grew up in London and lived there until my late 20's, then moved to a deserted Cornish village - there was noise in both places. In Cornwall I had the neighbour from hell ... but that's a whole nother story.

BEVS - I'm sure you've explored what action you can take, but here may give you an idea of what other options are left.:fingerscrossed:

frogeye Nov 28th 2009 10:55 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Ah - sorry about that - I meant to say 'It seems to be a problem in NZ'

No offence intended

frogeye

lizard Nov 29th 2009 9:28 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Tip here, don't buy a house next to a pub and expect it to be quiet. If you like to live with peace and quiet, buy rural.

Stormer999 Nov 29th 2009 2:12 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
My best wishes go with you...there is no worse thing than noise pollution especially created deliberately with disregard to other humans. Have you tried inviting all of your local dignitaries round to listen to your problem? i.e the noise being generated..suppose you have. Keep trying and stress to the NZ Immigration Authorities what an adverse effect your problem is having on future NZ hopefuls. The one thing that worries me about NZ build properties is not heat insulation but sound insulation......cold I can live with quiet I could kill for. Best of luck and worse scenario get a pair of moulded earplugs made...consult an audiologist expert with your need.:fingerscrossed:

Genesis Nov 29th 2009 6:01 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 

Originally Posted by lizard (Post 8132618)
Tip here, don't buy a house next to a pub and expect it to be quiet. If you like to live with peace and quiet, buy rural.

That's helpful aye? You are all heart. Have a nice day won't you.

Am Loolah Nov 29th 2009 6:06 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 

Originally Posted by lizard (Post 8132618)
Tip here, don't buy a house next to a pub and expect it to be quiet. If you like to live with peace and quiet, buy rural.

You're a deck.:rolleyes:

TeamEmbo Nov 29th 2009 6:16 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Liquor Licensing Sergeant at the Nelson Police
Telephone: +64 3 546 3840

Nelson District Licensing Agency (DLA)
Telephone: +64 3 546 0346

Environmental Inspections
Telephone: +64 3 546 0381

You might have already contacted the above but if not, might be worthwhile?

The license holder has a responsibility to serve alcohol responsibly.

I can totally understand about the police not being available at that time of night, we have similar where we but the council are supposed to have a 24-hour phone line for environment issues such as noise control. The police can attend and assess and turn off or remove equipment and I believe they can affect the license holder. Contact the DLA and the LLS at Nelson police and voice your concerns to them. Keep a diary. You may have to be very persistent. The ultimate if the council/police fail to do anything, is to go to the environment court.

I would not advocate moving house - why should you leave a house you love in an area you love?! There are systems in place for dealing with the problem but I fully sympathise with you Bevs - you shouldn't have to be put to all the time and trouble and sleepless nights to deal with it. Get neighbours onboard and local MP and take a stand. Wish I could be there in person to help support you.

Perry Groves Nov 29th 2009 7:50 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
We had these problems in London, we sent them notes and knocked on the door a lot, council did not do much either.

alanmacc Nov 29th 2009 8:25 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Don’t even start me on Neighbours ……….. grrrrrrrrr :curse: we have one over the back that lets his kids use quad bikes to race up and down the road, and when I told them I had a 4 year old the wanky kids sit outside her bed room and rev up the bikes, they also cut through a new house that is being built and use our shared driveway as a short cut, we are in a cul de sac, have tried the cops to no avail, have tried the council to no avail, the father of them thinks he owns the place and is as arrogant as they come.

I honestly stress about going home at night if it’s a sunny night knowing they will be out on the bikes till up to 10pm, it really pisses me off big time :curse::curse::curse:

Hokey-pokey Nov 29th 2009 9:45 pm

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
I would contact Citizens Advice. There should be a branch in Nelson. They offer free council and will give you loads of support.
Definitely keep a record of all correspondence / meetings between yourselves and landlords of pub.
It might be worthwhile contacting a lawyer, they will sometimes advise over the phone for free.
Who is your local MP ? I would be making a point of seeing him/her too.

Alanmacc, you could try all of the above too, if you feel your daughters safety is at risk due to your neighbours dangerous and illegal driving , you need to go back to the police and lodge a complaint in writing.

BEVS Nov 30th 2009 12:13 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 

Originally Posted by lizard (Post 8132618)
Tip here, don't buy a house next to a pub and expect it to be quiet. If you like to live with peace and quiet, buy rural.

I agree. We wanted a quiet place to live so picked a quiet area, on a quiet back section, with quiet neighbours in a quiet village. We visited our house several times before buying it. Day, evenings and weekends. We met with the neighbours.
We've been in this village for over 5 years and in this house for 3 years. So you see my friend , we had already thought of and put into practice your practical tip.

The pub only arrived this year. It's not next door or even in our road. It's over the next door paddock and in a road below us .
Before that the place was a rather good restaurant.
The amount of live music has gradually increased and with that the later nights and the volume.
One band even brought their own sound equipment & engineer .

Thanks for all these answers. I'll have a good read later on & form 'A Plan'.
My head was mush before we went away for a couple of days and I wasn't particularly looking forward to coming back because I know that we have to continue to deal with this unwanted nuisance. I'll admit, I have considered moving .

Wooly_Cow Nov 30th 2009 12:19 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Stupid question and one thats probably already been asked but don't you need a live music licence in NZ? I think you do in the UK and there are srict limits about the noise you make.

Charismatic Nov 30th 2009 1:32 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Pubs...terrible fire risk apparently. You should probably warn them...

Kimi-Deacon Nov 30th 2009 2:44 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 
Sorry to hear this Bevs there is nothing worse than noise when you are trying to sleep.

If all else fails buy a HUGE boogie box, find out where the landlord lives and crank it up outside his bedrom window whenever there is noise at the pub, see how he likes it, maybe the Prodigy CD I AM THE FIRESTARTER:eek:

bourbon-biscuit Nov 30th 2009 3:22 am

Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT
 

Originally Posted by lizard (Post 8132618)
Tip here, don't buy a house next to a pub and expect it to be quiet. If you like to live with peace and quiet, buy rural.

Although you have no guarantees you won't find boyracers doing doughnuts at the end of your track or that the bellowing cows won't drive you insane at certain times of the year ...

Tip here, smugness when you've done nothing to be proud of is unattractive, whether you live in the country or behind a pub :thumbdown:


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