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Old Sep 22nd 2011, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by BEVS
The noise went down sometime towards midnight.I don't know if this was due to action by the noise control contractor or not yet. I'll be finding out though when I make the follow up complaint. In any case we moved ourselves to another room and utilised commercial earplugs.

I know that one of the council environmental health officers has no time for this bloke & he has stated the pub will be stopped in the end but what's the hold up? Council knew this band event was going to take place. I told them. It's puzzling.
In the end of what - your wits? Big on talk but small on action, what a waste of space.

I appreciate the EHOs have to balance the right of the pub to play their music against your right to the peaceful enjoyment of your home, but this thing has been going on for years and you're still no further forward with it.

I'm concerned for you that you're having to use earplugs just to find some peace from the nuisance.

Did the council EHOs ever serve noise abatement notices on the proprietor, because if they haven't they're seriously deficient in the way they are performing their jobs.

If this thing is technically beyond their capabilities ask them to engage a noise consultant to come up with a plan of action.

It's not acceptable for them to simply send the noise abatement officer round every time the music get too loud, there is an ongoing nuisance and they have a legal responsibility to abate it, or prosecute the pub for non-compliance.

I don't know how you have put up with it for so long Bevs, I'd have had their arses in court long ago and to hell with the consequences.
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Old Sep 22nd 2011, 8:33 pm
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In the end of what - your wits? Big on talk but small on action, what a waste of space.

I appreciate the EHOs have to balance the right of the pub to play their music against your right to the peaceful enjoyment of your home, but this thing has been going on for years and you're still no further forward with it.

I'm concerned for you that you're having to use earplugs just to find some peace from the nuisance.

Did the council EHOs ever serve noise abatement notices on the proprietor, because if they haven't they're seriously deficient in the way they are performing their jobs.

If this thing is technically beyond their capabilities ask them to engage a noise consultant to come up with a plan of action.

It's not acceptable for them to simply send the noise abatement officer round every time the music get too loud, there is an ongoing nuisance and they have a legal responsibility to abate it, or prosecute the pub for non-compliance.

I don't know how you have put up with it for so long Bevs, I'd have had their arses in court long ago and to hell with the consequences.
TOO RIGHT WELL SAID!!
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Old Sep 23rd 2011, 6:56 am
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It's not acceptable for them to simply send the noise abatement officer round every time the music get too loud. There is an ongoing nuisance and they have a legal responsibility to abate it, or prosecute the pub for non-compliance.
I know. It must seem like we are right wimps , which we are not.

How do I prove non-compliance then ? not the out of hours contractor, that's for sure. I have someone I can use but perhaps need to choose my time very carefully.
If I do this. I also need to think about 'agenda's' here. Everyone knows everyone and will be having conversations. I couldn't afford to miss the shot. I feel I would only have one.
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Old Sep 24th 2011, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by BEVS
I know. It must seem like we are right wimps , which we are not.

How do I prove non-compliance then ? not the out of hours contractor, that's for sure. I have someone I can use but perhaps need to choose my time very carefully.
If I do this. I also need to think about 'agenda's' here. Everyone knows everyone and will be having conversations. I couldn't afford to miss the shot. I feel I would only have one.
Can you start with date & time stamped videos? People don't SEE words any more - they need the pictorial evidence.
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Old Sep 25th 2011, 1:32 am
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Default Re: Other peoples noise and anti-social behaviours. Be warned . RANT

Originally Posted by BEVS
I know. It must seem like we are right wimps , which we are not.

How do I prove non-compliance then ? not the out of hours contractor, that's for sure. I have someone I can use but perhaps need to choose my time very carefully.
If I do this. I also need to think about 'agenda's' here. Everyone knows everyone and will be having conversations. I couldn't afford to miss the shot. I feel I would only have one.
It depends if the council's enforcement officers have issued a noise abatement notice or not.

Based on what you've been saying I think that there is enough evidence to prompt the officers to serve a notice on the pub's proprietor. If they haven't issued a notice then, imo, they are failing in their duty to you. That in itself could be a reason to make a formal complaint to the ombudsman. They will fiddle and faffle around til the cows come home rather than put their neck on the line and do something that means they have to appear in court, or suffer the wrath of a local business owner. Make them step up to the mark and do their job.

If they have issued a notice, why aren't they enforcing it? Every time there is a breach of the conditions of the notice they should be prosecuting for non-compliance. If they're not doing this - again reason to complain to the ombudsman.

They should have the resources to leave a digital sound recording device in your house which you can switch on every time the music gets too loud. They should be able to calibrate it to get an accurate decibel level of the music from the pub. If they're not doing this - ask them why not? if they've not got the resources then they should engage a noise specialist to provide it.

I've always been of the opinion that your best course of action isn't against the pub - but against the council and its officers. If they can be arm-twisted into doing their jobs properly this thing could be resolved very easily. It's not rocket science but this is a council you're dealing with and you know how they operate.

Using the ombudsman to put pressure on the council will get around the local parochial, small town, you scratch my back culture that is a problem in small communities where everyone looks after their own. I'm sure you catch my drift and know what I mean by that.

Have you got the resources, perhaps through a library, to search for noise nuisance case law in NZ? that could give you some ideas on how best to proceed and you could quote some cases, in a formal letter, to the officers.

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Old Oct 18th 2011, 10:26 am
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I know. I know. I haven't been back to this. We've had visitors and family with us and have been out and around .

So. Tuesday night and it's banging away. Noise Control called 20 minutes ago.

To be fair , i;e had a letter from noise control detailing what they are doing to stop this.

Same shite as people have in the UK every day. Different bucket is all.

Haven't caught the low life's that torched our aquarium yet though
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Hope it doesn't go on to long Bevs, i know what it's like to have that sort of noise during the week, the good thing i knew he was going to leave He'd sold his house and him and his bl**dy barking dog were going (it was a close call which was the pest). I hope you get the same result
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... and a noise abatement notice has finally been served to the noisy next door neighbour, both tenants and landlord. Next time it's seizure and fines for them.

Next - The poxy Pub .
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Well done Bevs
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Excellent....... Now they might start behaving like neighbours...
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Great news. Hopefully this situation is now being treated with the seriousness it deserves and that pub will get sorted soon.
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Originally Posted by BEVS
... and a noise abatement notice has finally been served to the noisy next door neighbour, both tenants and landlord. Next time it's seizure and fines for them.

Next - The poxy Pub .
Well done for sticking with it Bev xx
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This Wellington story may cheer you up a bit bevs.
This sounds unbelievable.But at least the council are trying to do something about it...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...esidents-awake

Thousands kept awake, loads of stereos confiscated, racial abuse, vows to continue doing it - normal night in NZ then

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What a familiar comfy read.

Sadly for the neighbours, it will take a while to go through correct 'procedure'.

Had a wry smile at the idea of the problem being made worse by the neighbours having their own windows and doors open.

Even more of a larf that this low life is described as a builder. Obviously had no work during the working week then.
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Heres another one.
Hamilton seems to be a pretty noisy place as well

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...feel-the-noise

Gotta love some of the comments

Seems like half of the population expect quiet, and the other half expect to be able to play music audible 5km away. What a country.
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