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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by jarv5116 View Post
I think most of the problem is if you live on the north Island it's hot and humid for 9 months of the year.
Which nine months would that be ?
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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 1:56 pm
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Intrigued that there doesn't seem to be what the UK sees as central heating.
That is gas, oil, solid fuel or electric heating with water filled radiators and a boiler.
You can also get wood burners with back boilers, with a CH pump to warm radiators.

If we ever get to NZ (and I assume we would be forced to build new and not buy existing) then insulation, insulation, insulation.
It keeps cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
I wonder if there is a benefit in looking for a builder with UK experience who will know ways other than traditional NZ.

Edit: Central Heating firm talks a good fight, including a diesel boiler which I hadn't seen before (except in camper vans).

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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Justcol View Post
For city's you've got Chch, Nelson and Blenheim.
Regions would be Canterbury, Marlborough or Nelson/Tasman,
Smaller towns I like (which counts for nothing), Picton, Motueka, Amberley, Rangiora, Akaroa, Hanmer Springs, Methven, Ashburton, Geraldine.
Thank you so much!
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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jarv5116 View Post
a heat pump which is about as much use as putting my wife's hair drier above my head.
Weird that the heating is not effective - maybe it makes Kiwis more resilient
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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jayandbill View Post
We're in a new house with double glazing and insulation, in the central north island, but the system of house building here isn't to the standard we are used to in UK.. Even the brick built ones aren't as well insulated . We have one heat pump in the living area, which is open plan ( harder to heat) as are many new houses here, but in winter the temperature in the bedroom is around 12c at night. The house never really feels warm . We also have a ventilation system installed, which reduces condensation. My advice when looking to buy here is buy a new, brick house. in a sunny position.
NZ sounds like such a great country from afar, yet the standard of housing is an interesting facet, for sure! Who would have thought that a double glazed, insulated, heated house would still be so cold?
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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by jackinthetree View Post
NZ sounds like such a great country from afar, yet the standard of housing is an interesting facet, for sure! Who would have thought that a double glazed, insulated, heated house would still be so cold?
Yes but its not built to UK standards.
90% of the problem with the older type kiwi houses is the Ventalation. There is no Ventalation in any of the older type houses.
Its nothing todo with heat systems or double glazing.
Imagine living in a static caravan in the winter with minimuim ventilation. The condinstaion in the houses are crazy. You fill a dehumidifier every nite with water from one room. There is alot more moisture in the air in the winter than the UK.
Also things like double glazing and central heating have never took off in NZ. The main reason is it's to expensive and a very small Market for sales in NZ.
When your in NZ you have to get use to having limited choices on every thing you can think off.
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Old Jul 22nd 2021, 8:28 pm
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Weird that the heating is not effective - maybe it makes Kiwis more resilient
I suppose if you've grown up without heating you won't feel the cold as much as Brits do. granted it doesn't get as cold as Britain, at least not in the north Island, but I don't understand the wearing of shorts and bare feet in temperatures around 12c, which isn't uncommon, and has little to to do with poverty.
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Old Jul 23rd 2021, 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles View Post
Which nine months would that be ?
NZ is hot and humid for 9 months of the year? Yes, it can be both, off and on but not for 9 months. When we first visited in 2004 in December, we were huddled round a wood burning fire in Auckland. weve now spent 17 summers here and lived permanently for 11 in BOP so I can safely say that hot and humid for 9 months is misleading.
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Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat View Post
Intrigued that there doesn't seem to be what the UK sees as central heating.
That is gas, oil, solid fuel or electric heating with water filled radiators and a boiler.
You can also get wood burners with back boilers, with a CH pump to warm radiators.
The New Zealanders do seem to move house quite often so I suspect that might be a disincentive to invest in higher standard heating solutions.

There are some numbers about how long owners hang on to their houses in this article. https://www.corelogic.co.nz/news/how...ir-properties#
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I suppose if you've grown up without heating you won't feel the cold as much as Brits do. granted it doesn't get as cold as Britain, at least not in the north Island, but I don't understand the wearing of shorts and bare feet in temperatures around 12c, which isn't uncommon, and has little to to do with poverty.
Ha ha my late husband was a Kiwi, and this all over, used to get such a laugh over it, his cousin is exactly the same! Must be some immunity they're born with 😂

Although it was more thongs/jandals with him rather than bare feet..
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Originally Posted by jayandbill View Post
NZ is hot and humid for 9 months of the year? Yes, it can be both, off and on but not for 9 months. When we first visited in 2004 in December, we were huddled round a wood burning fire in Auckland. weve now spent 17 summers here and lived permanently for 11 in BOP so I can safely say that hot and humid for 9 months is misleading.
no mate
been huddled round a fire in December is miss leading.
I'm from up Scotland and it's alot hotter for a lot longer in Auckland compared with Dundee.
If you need to be hugged round a fire in December isn't normal in Auckland.
Its the humidity in Auckland that's the problem.
It doesn't get anywhere near is cold in Auckland I have never wore jeans or trousers in 3 years only shorts and 90% of the time flip flops.
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Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat View Post
Intrigued that there doesn't seem to be what the UK sees as central heating.
That is gas, oil, solid fuel or electric heating with water filled radiators and a boiler.
You can also get wood burners with back boilers, with a CH pump to warm radiators.

If we ever get to NZ (and I assume we would be forced to build new and not buy existing) then insulation, insulation, insulation.
It keeps cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
I wonder if there is a benefit in looking for a builder with UK experience who will know ways other than traditional NZ.

Edit: Central Heating firm talks a good fight, including a diesel boiler which I hadn't seen before (except in camper vans).
There is. I've had central heating In my house for years. I've got a coal boiler that feeds 9 radiators. I know plenty down here that also have central heating systems. Some are coal, some diesel and one is water heated by a heat pump.
it's very easy to build a very well insulated house, it's just that people here. Brits included, don't want to pay for it, don't research how to do it or simply accept the crappy R2.2 insulation offered by builders as being sufficient. It's very easy to build with sips panels instead of traditional wooden framing. Sips wall panels are available up to R8.6 but few seem interested in exploring them as an option.
the solution is our there, you just have to ask for it

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Old Jul 23rd 2021, 10:51 am
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There is. I've had central heating In my house for years. I've got a coal boiler that feeds 9 radiators. I know plenty down here that also have central heating systems. Some are coal, some diesel and one is water heated by a heat pump.
it's very easy to build a very well insulated house, it's just that people here. Brits included, don't want to pay for it, don't research how to do it or simply accept the crappy R2.2 insulation offered by builders as being sufficient. It's very easy to build with sips panels instead of traditional wooden framing. Sips wall panels are available up to R8.6 but few seem interested in exploring them as an option.
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Having a coal boiler is like going back to horse and carts or canal boats for poms.
I had a coal fire heating system and hot water as a kid in a mining village.
If it was reasonable priced for insulating and heating houses people would buy it.
UK government schemes were paying for your insulation and new boilers up until recently.
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no mate
been huddled round a fire in December is miss leading.
I'm from up Scotland and it's alot hotter for a lot longer in Auckland compared with Dundee.
If you need to be hugged round a fire in December isn't normal in Auckland.
Its the humidity in Auckland that's the problem.
It doesn't get anywhere near is cold in Auckland I have never wore jeans or trousers in 3 years only shorts and 90% of the time flip flops.
Yes, it is unusual to need a fire in December but at the same time Christmas day on the beach isn't guaranteed . sometimes summer doesn't really begin until January, and it rains quite a lot, especially in winter.The weather in all areas is as unpredictable as it is in UK. Potential immigrants tend to have misconceptions about every aspect of Kiwi living an in 10 years I've very rarely needed the air conditioner on to cool down.
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Originally Posted by jayandbill View Post
NZ is hot and humid for 9 months of the year? Yes, it can be both, off and on but not for 9 months. When we first visited in 2004 in December, we were huddled round a wood burning fire in Auckland. weve now spent 17 summers here and lived permanently for 11 in BOP so I can safely say that hot and humid for 9 months is misleading.
LOL Our first experience of 'summer' here was also December 2004 and we had to go and buy jackets because it was so cold. Saying NZ is hot for nine months of the year is ridiculous and hopefully folks have the good sense to check the facts on that. My personal barometer is set at about 20c being comfortable and Auckland only gets past that during three or four months of the year and by no means is that a solid 3 months, it varies on a daily basis. Today started out cold and foggy but has turned into a glorious sunny day at 14c per my car and I was out in a t-shirt earlier.
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