Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Nov 19th 2011, 7:28 am
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
I think everyone should go and open a good bottle of 'Savvee' and enjoy the wonderful weather, have a dance on the 100% pure beach and forget about these things. after all, isnt that why everyone moved here from UK in the first place? you cant spend your life worrying about what may happen. that is not living! No one else here worries about finances, future, pensions, etc. All those people left long ago. The Kiwis emigrated to UK, USA, Australia and the foreigners concerned about things went back home.
Nov 19th 2011, 7:49 am
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Here are four underused words that really could send NZ down the gurgler in a big way: foot and mouth disease
Nov 19th 2011, 7:54 am
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
All sorts of problems can occur with all sorts of industries, having a plan to deal with serious impacts is good.
Nov 19th 2011, 4:24 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Another poster mooted this today so I thought I would pose the question. Is NZ heading for a very big fall for one reason or another or will tourism and the dairy factory keep us afloat? I really have no idea and think it could go either way. One more big 'quake or some other cataclysmic event could send us right down the swanee sans les paddles. I guess NZ relies too heavily on far too few resources and is very much an island waaaaaaay from anywhere else.
Personally I see my YOUNG childrens future here 100%, until their education ends alas I don't see along term future for them as adults if they want to get on (unless things really change in the next decade or so). I don't think NZ as it stands is progressive enough and is too small to offer an ambitous number of young people a future. I guess that is why 25% of the population is elsewhere eh?
Personally I see my YOUNG childrens future here 100%, until their education ends alas I don't see along term future for them as adults if they want to get on (unless things really change in the next decade or so). I don't think NZ as it stands is progressive enough and is too small to offer an ambitous number of young people a future. I guess that is why 25% of the population is elsewhere eh?
Nov 19th 2011, 6:16 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
so if you cant beat 'em join 'em
Nov 19th 2011, 7:54 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
I reckon you have to answer what the definition of BIG (in capital letters) is first. Is there going to be something in the realms of a Greek proportions meltdown. Well ... not in the forseeable future, according to the economists. Will there be a meltdown of any proportions? Who knows. Far less likely than many other countries in the world, I suggest. 
Nov 19th 2011, 8:16 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
I think everyone should go and open a good bottle of 'Savvee' and enjoy the wonderful weather, have a dance on the 100% pure beach and forget about these things. after all, isnt that why everyone moved here from UK in the first place? you cant spend your life worrying about what may happen. that is not living!
Nov 19th 2011, 9:03 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Don't see why some folks on here think that NZ will of okay of there is trouble else. Noone is immune to global storms or recession. And, whereas Oz has lots of wealth in store for the future, what does NZ have that would allow it to ride the storm? Also, this clean and green image of NZ simple doesn't add up either. The fact that NZ has a low population and not a great variety of industries make it more vulnerable I would think.
Nov 19th 2011, 9:16 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
I think everyone should go and open a good bottle of 'Savvee' and enjoy the wonderful weather, have a dance on the 100% pure beach and forget about these things. after all, isnt that why everyone moved here from UK in the first place? you cant spend your life worrying about what may happen. that is not living! No one else here worries about finances, future, pensions, etc. All those people left long ago. The Kiwis emigrated to UK, USA, Australia and the foreigners concerned about things went back home.
Nov 19th 2011, 10:19 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Food and water and relative warmth, the staples of life. ... and a natural border ... and a low population. I would guess that NZ probably has the most fertile square acre of land per capita in the world.
... and a natural border ... and a low population. I would guess that NZ probably has the most fertile square acre of land per capita in the world.
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Nov 19th 2011, 11:18 pm
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
Another poster mooted this today so I thought I would pose the question. Is NZ heading for a very big fall for one reason or another or will tourism and the dairy factory keep us afloat? I really have no idea and think it could go either way. One more big 'quake or some other cataclysmic event could send us right down the swanee sans les paddles. I guess NZ relies too heavily on far too few resources and is very much an island waaaaaaay from anywhere else.
Personally I see my YOUNG childrens future here 100%, until their education ends alas I don't see along term future for them as adults if they want to get on (unless things really change in the next decade or so). I don't think NZ as it stands is progressive enough and is too small to offer an ambitous number of young people a future. I guess that is why 25% of the population is elsewhere eh?
Personally I see my YOUNG childrens future here 100%, until their education ends alas I don't see along term future for them as adults if they want to get on (unless things really change in the next decade or so). I don't think NZ as it stands is progressive enough and is too small to offer an ambitous number of young people a future. I guess that is why 25% of the population is elsewhere eh?
I have faith that my son will make his own choices/mistakes re: where he wants to live & whom he wants to vote for etc... and as my choices were different from my parents & were based on my life in another time so will his be.
There are so many different variables re: why people leave their country of origin or stay & it may not always be based on economics.
if I could vote mine would go to Ngaa Rauuira (Maori Boy Genius) he makes more sense & seems more genuine than any of the other politicians i've seen & in my opinion he'd ensure that NZ would rise & not fall
Nov 20th 2011, 12:23 am
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Re: Is NZ headed for the gurgler in a BIG way?
That's what I reckon too. :sunglasses: A lot comes down to peoples priorities. Just one example. While some people feel the low population of NZ is a negative because of economies of scale, and the economics of it all, some other people reckon its a positive because there is less crowding in an over-populated world and there is hardly any likelihood of a famine or such here. Sometime in the future the world's increasing population is going to reach breaking point. Somethings going to have to give sooner or later, although it won't be in our lifetime. But I doubt that NZ would be seen as half bad when it does. That's what I reckon anyway.
