New Zealand immigration is declining while emigration is increasing.
Nov 23rd 2007, 9:05 pm
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Re: New Zealand immigration is declining while emigration is increasing.
We don't have kids (here) and don't hike and I love it here. It's 'only' the money that takes people away - if there was a turnaround in x number of years most people would come back. I know. I'm Irish and we did the same thing. As soon as there was money there most people went home, followed by the emigrants, and now you're just as likely to have an English builder to do your work (we did) as an Irish one. How times change. 
It's no reflection on the country or its people - rather the Government of the day and its policies. My husband was away from here for 13 years and it ate at him each and every day - the only reason he didn't come back was because of me and my commitments. I'd say 90% of the Kiwis who leave here only ever go for the short term - whether or not that becomes their reality I don't know - I do know they have a love of New Zealand that's more than patriotism - it goes way deeper than that. This may not be an old country in terms of European settlement but there is a spiritual pull that's as old as time itself for most Kiwis. Or at least, that's my experience.
It's no reflection on the country or its people - rather the Government of the day and its policies. My husband was away from here for 13 years and it ate at him each and every day - the only reason he didn't come back was because of me and my commitments. I'd say 90% of the Kiwis who leave here only ever go for the short term - whether or not that becomes their reality I don't know - I do know they have a love of New Zealand that's more than patriotism - it goes way deeper than that. This may not be an old country in terms of European settlement but there is a spiritual pull that's as old as time itself for most Kiwis. Or at least, that's my experience.
You have to either be a kiwi or married to one to understand that pull Batty.NZer's have been leaving here for their OE for generations and I think you will find that despite the many opportunities in Aus in the long term they will be drawn home.
When you are looking at Kiwi's leaving you also have to factor in emigrants who come to NZ as a means to gain entry into Aus.
Nov 24th 2007, 9:26 pm
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There are loads of Kiwi's here (Brisbane) and most of them have no intention to go back to NZ, basically its the money they get here, once you ern it it's hard to go back to less of a wage.
Nov 24th 2007, 10:19 pm
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I would be interested in knowing how many of the Kiwi's you have met are second, third or fourth generation Aus residents.
Nov 24th 2007, 10:30 pm
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Nov 24th 2007, 10:57 pm
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If the Australian economy does eventually go t*ts-up (over-reliance on commodities), there'll be lot's of expat Kiwi's with no work.
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Nov 24th 2007, 11:25 pm
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You could say that about anywhere, saying that with Kev getting in time will tell.
Nov 25th 2007, 12:38 am
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We found this lead article in the Nelson Mail yesterday very interesting.Of course, it wasn't just the headlines that caught our eye. The fact that they are around the same age as us and he is also a plumber drew our attention. Phil hears this type of story quite often around the building sites.
Nov 25th 2007, 1:21 am
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Good read that Bev's, tempted?
At the moment our house is a hostel for people moving from NZ
A mate's here now and we have a family coming for a rekey 15th December with a view to moving over in January.
Your more than Welcome to stay
Did I ever tell you how close we are to the Gold Coast
At the moment our house is a hostel for people moving from NZ
A mate's here now and we have a family coming for a rekey 15th December with a view to moving over in January.
Your more than Welcome to stay
Did I ever tell you how close we are to the Gold Coast
Nov 25th 2007, 2:44 am
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Re: New Zealand immigration is declining while emigration is increasing.
This is one of the most telling quotes I have heard of.
Just another tangent--we have just had a young man killed by "Boy Racers"-he was loading/unloading a delivery truck. He and his family have been here for 15 yrs--the family had to have an interpreter--Huh? Fifteen years and "No speekee English" That's the way to intergrate into your new country
Nov 25th 2007, 3:53 am
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Nov 25th 2007, 7:14 pm
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Re: New Zealand immigration is declining while emigration is increasing.
This is one of the most telling quotes I have heard of.
Just another tangent--we have just had a young man killed by "Boy Racers"-he was loading/unloading a delivery truck. He and his family have been here for 15 yrs--the family had to have an interpreter--Huh? Fifteen years and "No speekee English" That's the way to intergrate into your new country
Just another tangent--we have just had a young man killed by "Boy Racers"-he was loading/unloading a delivery truck. He and his family have been here for 15 yrs--the family had to have an interpreter--Huh? Fifteen years and "No speekee English" That's the way to intergrate into your new country
Nov 25th 2007, 7:21 pm
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Nov 25th 2007, 11:21 pm
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This is one of the most telling quotes I have heard of.
Just another tangent--we have just had a young man killed by "Boy Racers"-he was loading/unloading a delivery truck. He and his family have been here for 15 yrs--the family had to have an interpreter--Huh? Fifteen years and "No speekee English" That's the way to intergrate into your new country
Just another tangent--we have just had a young man killed by "Boy Racers"-he was loading/unloading a delivery truck. He and his family have been here for 15 yrs--the family had to have an interpreter--Huh? Fifteen years and "No speekee English" That's the way to intergrate into your new country
The parents do have some issues with comprehending the Kiwi dialogue but they do speak English reasonably well and I have had quite a number of conversations with them.
All the younger members of the family have been to school and/or university here in NZ.
My understanding is someone from their own culture has been assisting them through the complex sudden death, crime investigation and assosciated legal process that is taking place.
They are victims of crime and they have rights that are currently being met by a Mandarin Victim Support worker and I am pretty pleased to see they are.
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