Is New Zealand a 3rd World Country
May 13th 2010, 2:47 am
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(however 4 languages in my head all the time.)
well I was simply joking.. am I not allowed to?
I did know what he was referring to. just thought its disgusting/FUNNY!! but I don't know Monty Pyton at all. never heard of it.
and can't follow Yotty's link yet, cos can't open YOUTUBe here...
To Whinging Pom -- Thanks for your kind explanation, I very much appreciate.
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May 13th 2010, 2:52 am
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And especially no kids going to school in their bare feet, or having not eaten for a day or so, no never in Wellington. Surely if this was happening the governement would step in and help the kids out, i.e. school lunches and anyway the teachers will make sure they are ok, won't they?
No gangs running things, just like the UK, never happen in Wellington?
Yeh never happen on my doorstep, or yours, so who cares.
May 13th 2010, 2:53 am
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How can NZ be a third world country? Third world means:
1. No running water, or if there is it isn't drinkable. All major NZ towns and cities have drinkable running water. This does vary in quality depending on location but I don't know of any places in NZ where you are likely to fall very ill by drinking the water.
2. Bad quality roads. I've travelled to many places around the world and yes, NZ roads aren't quite up to the standard of the UK, USA or western Europe but but they are certainly far far ahead of any third world country I've been to. As far as I'm aware roads in NZ don't have potholes everywhere and the only unsealed roads are in very remote areas where there's hardly any traffic.
3. High incidence of deadly diseases. As far as I'm aware NZ doesn't have any higher rate of deadly diseases than other first world countries.
4. Famine. NZ is one of the few countries in the world that produces more food than it consumes. There may be poor people in NZ but certainly 99.9 % of the population are not starving.
5. Low life expectency. I'm not sure how NZ compares with other first world countries here but I would think it would be generally comparable to other first world countries, although Maori/Pacific Islander are probably significantly lower than other New Zealanders and this may bring it down a bit.
I could go on and on.
1. No running water, or if there is it isn't drinkable. All major NZ towns and cities have drinkable running water. This does vary in quality depending on location but I don't know of any places in NZ where you are likely to fall very ill by drinking the water.
2. Bad quality roads. I've travelled to many places around the world and yes, NZ roads aren't quite up to the standard of the UK, USA or western Europe but but they are certainly far far ahead of any third world country I've been to. As far as I'm aware roads in NZ don't have potholes everywhere and the only unsealed roads are in very remote areas where there's hardly any traffic.
3. High incidence of deadly diseases. As far as I'm aware NZ doesn't have any higher rate of deadly diseases than other first world countries.
4. Famine. NZ is one of the few countries in the world that produces more food than it consumes. There may be poor people in NZ but certainly 99.9 % of the population are not starving.
5. Low life expectency. I'm not sure how NZ compares with other first world countries here but I would think it would be generally comparable to other first world countries, although Maori/Pacific Islander are probably significantly lower than other New Zealanders and this may bring it down a bit.
I could go on and on.
May 13th 2010, 2:54 am
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2. Bad quality roads. I've travelled to many places around the world and yes, NZ roads aren't quite up to the standard of the UK, USA or western Europe but but they are certainly far far ahead of any third world country I've been to. As far as I'm aware roads in NZ don't have potholes everywhere and the only unsealed roads are in very remote areas where there's hardly any traffic.
Don't go down that path
the UK is suffering very badly with bad roads and potholes
Don't go down that path
the UK is suffering very badly with bad roads and potholes
May 13th 2010, 2:56 am
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May 13th 2010, 3:01 am
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Not really. You will get to see more people who dressed up (suits) properly even at late night times (in town I mean). - lots of office workers go home late .. like myself. I've never felt unsafe and people (usually) seem pleasant in Welly. never seen gangs here....so far.....
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May 13th 2010, 4:02 am
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May 13th 2010, 8:13 am
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Ok New Zealand is probably more like a developing country
May 13th 2010, 8:24 am
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Ok New Zealand is probably more like a developing country
at a big supermarket.
May 13th 2010, 3:23 pm
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. Many first year uni students live on that.A man in his 50s is not your usual sort after flatmate. and at 50 sharing accomodation with others can be loaded with problems that at a younger age we tend to let go by.
What would u have....give them nothing and let them die of starvation or commit crimes to live? Grow up! EVERY human being should have the right to access affordable food and shelter, utilities, clean water, heatlhcare and education.
I'd like to see you manage on $50 a week for groceries, toiletries, transport, clothing, phone calls etc. Some people are just too self-righteous and smug.
May 13th 2010, 3:33 pm
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What would u have....give them nothing and let them die of starvation or commit crimes to live? Grow up! EVERY human being should have the right to access affordable food and shelter, utilities, clean water, heatlhcare and education.
May 13th 2010, 3:36 pm
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All very, valid points and all true. But do you not think the same is going on in Oz and many, many other countries? There is poverty in NZ, aswell as the US, UK, France et al. Oz does have a way better wages thing going on than NZ but its not everything.
Virtually all the people who live in Nz and who have emigrated to Nz could be in Oz if they wanted but we chose to be here warts an all. No where is perfect and we all know NZ has a plethora of issues but it affords many of us a good life for both those of us with money and those who have less of it ( I am in the latter bracket at present!!).
Virtually all the people who live in Nz and who have emigrated to Nz could be in Oz if they wanted but we chose to be here warts an all. No where is perfect and we all know NZ has a plethora of issues but it affords many of us a good life for both those of us with money and those who have less of it ( I am in the latter bracket at present!!).
Migrants (not all, but a significant number who post on this and other forums) have in general arrived with a tidy sum of money and assets back in their country of origin and so if they can't get and keep employment, may be well positioned to start their own businesses or to take an early retirement/semi-retirement. A hell of a lot of other people aren't and perhaps never will be in that position. It's easy to kick a dog when it's down, it takes a lot more patience, compassion and advocacy to see it on the road to healing.
May 13th 2010, 3:41 pm
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I can empathise with the situation you found yourself in and if a country accepts an application for residency from someone, then at some point a level of duty of care should kick in. That said, I think it's fair comment that we don't usually up stix and move to another country with the intention of claiming benefits, but sometimes that assistance does become necessary.
May 13th 2010, 3:42 pm
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The aborigines live in third world conditions. But maybe Australians don't consider them to be human, so they don't count.