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sheene Dec 15th 2011 9:13 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 
I have always maintained, that to base your economy on the exporting of a product which countries could quite easily produce themselves, is economic folly. Indonesia has announced today that it will only be importing half it's normal quantity of beef from Oz next year, with a view to becoming self sufficient soon after. When there is a global financial crisis, countries will look at where they can save money. NZ needs a back-up plan.

Justcol Dec 16th 2011 12:01 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by sheene (Post 9791178)
NZ needs a back-up plan.

Hmmmm...so as not to disturb the lovely view we could go back to sheep farming I suppose :rofl:

sheene Dec 16th 2011 12:04 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 9791437)
Hmmmm...so as not to disturb the lovely view we could go back to sheep farming I suppose :rofl:

:) You have still got to find somewhere to plant them.

Charismatic Dec 16th 2011 12:13 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 
Why don't we all just build more houses and sell them to each other for more than we paid to build them? VoilĂ , economy = solved!

Then we'll just leave our children with problems of overpriced real estate, expensive education and the burden of national debt owed to the Chinese.

hazeandsteve Dec 16th 2011 7:05 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 
You don't see the light C, JC has enlightened us all.
Bugger the kids, bugger the country, bugger the consequences, sell and ravage for short term gain......and apparently it's neither blinkered nor selfish! Halleluja:eek:

Charismatic Dec 16th 2011 8:15 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 
Why is it governments always sell assets when the prices are shit? Browns low with gold, Maggie with industry and Key with infrastructure?

Triumph3 Dec 16th 2011 8:32 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by hazeandsteve (Post 9791837)
You don't see the light C, JC has enlightened us all.
Bugger the kids, bugger the country, bugger the consequences, sell and ravage for short term gain......and apparently it's neither blinkered nor selfish! Halleluja:eek:

I see your pastime is motorcycle touring. This will be your wind powered motorcycle made from bamboo and straw? Running on roads made of wattle and daub?

Just imagine if the 7 billion people in the world filled their motorbikes with 20 litres every weekend just to tour. 20 * 7000000000 litres of oil. 140000000 cubic metres of oil every weekend just so people can 'tour'.

Or is it ok to pillage the land of its resources as long as it's 'not on my doorstep'?

By the way, politicians lie, it's what they do. Is a liar as bad as a hypocrite though?

sheene Dec 16th 2011 8:51 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Triumph3 (Post 9791927)
I see your pastime is motorcycle touring. This will be your wind powered motorcycle then? Or is it ok to pillage the land of its resources as long as it's 'not on my doorstep'?
I love my motorcycle but I try not to be a hypocrite. Your 'do as I say not as I do' attitude is typical of the many lefty soap box preachers I come across.

:thumbup:

Triumph3 Dec 16th 2011 9:27 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by sheene (Post 9791949)
:thumbup:

Sorry, I made a few revisions!

sheene Dec 16th 2011 10:12 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Triumph3 (Post 9792008)
Sorry, I made a few revisions!

You will get away with it - most of New Zealand is asleep. Let's hope they wake up before it is too late.

bourbon-biscuit Dec 16th 2011 7:58 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 
But environmentalism does not equate to using "old ways", it's about developing and using new technologies.

BEVS Dec 16th 2011 8:06 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by bourbon-biscuit (Post 9793031)
But environmentalism does not equate to using "old ways", it's about developing and using new technologies.

OT - Where is your Christmas avatar BB?

bourbon-biscuit Dec 16th 2011 8:49 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 9793045)
OT - Where is your Christmas avatar BB?

It's not Christmas. :p

BEVS Dec 16th 2011 9:58 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by bourbon-biscuit (Post 9793093)
It's not Christmas. :p

Pretend. :sneaky:

Justcol Dec 16th 2011 10:25 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by hazeandsteve (Post 9791837)
You don't see the light C, JC has enlightened us all.
Bugger the kids, bugger the country, bugger the consequences, sell and ravage for short term gain......and apparently it's neither blinkered nor selfish! Halleluja:eek:

Stop trying be smart arse. Because someone has a different point of view to you doesn't make it wrong.
Personally I find the tree hugger point of view just a alien to my own beliefs but rather than try to be childish and sarcastic
I will ask you put your case for alternatives and tell me why the resources shouldn't be used.
Back it up with hard facts and figures, number of actual jobs created, revenue raised, and what bennefits
there are to leaving the resources untouched

Woodlea Dec 16th 2011 11:46 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Triumph3 (Post 9791927)
I see your pastime is motorcycle touring. This will be your wind powered motorcycle made from bamboo and straw? Running on roads made of wattle and daub?

Just imagine if the 7 billion people in the world filled their motorbikes with 20 litres every weekend just to tour. 20 * 7000000000 litres of oil. 140000000 cubic metres of oil every weekend just so people can 'tour'.

Or is it ok to pillage the land of its resources as long as it's 'not on my doorstep'?

By the way, politicians lie, it's what they do. Is a liar as bad as a hypocrite though?


:thumbsup:

Woodlea Dec 16th 2011 11:47 pm

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 9793233)
Stop trying be smart arse. Because someone has a different point of view to you doesn't make it wrong.
Personally I find the tree hugger point of view just a alien to my own beliefs but rather than try to be childish and sarcastic
I will ask you put your case for alternatives and tell me why the resources shouldn't be used.
Back it up with hard facts and figures, number of actual jobs created, revenue raised, and what bennefits
there are to leaving the resources untouched

:thumbsup:

hazeandsteve Dec 17th 2011 2:12 am

Re: National voters.....nice one!
 

Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 9793233)
Stop trying be smart arse....
I will ask you put your case for alternatives and tell me why the resources shouldn't be used.....Back it up with hard facts and figures, number of actual jobs created, revenue raised, and what bennefits there are to leaving the res
ources untouched

I'm not trying to be Col, but as we said before, we disagree, and I prefer humour to abuse.
There's plenty of concern from many sources, and I can't be bothered to hunt too deep, but wiser souls than me are questioning it.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10633968.
As for my pastimes, I don't pretend to be a greenie, and yes, maybe a nimby, but I chose to come to NZ rather than chasing the buck for reasons amongst which is the beauty of this place.


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