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Been doing all the necessary research and job hunting.

I've noticed that the average person in my line of work (Machining) earns Around $850 ish a week after tax. I've done every bit of research I think I can, i could be wrong but it seems to me that I'll be coming to nz to be skint and working all the time? And all the relevant sites are telling me I'll be $1000 down a week!! I must be doing it wrong cause I'm desperate to get over in the next year or two. Planning a visit next April and I'm looking for jobs as we speak.

The prices are completely different to Sheffield where I live and I'd like it so my parter can stay at home.

Help????

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A lot of people all over the world work and are skint. Some peoples monthly rent could be 2 incomes elsewhere, so you have to look at what you can get for your money in that specific place and see if it makes sense or not.

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what visa are you looking at getting?

what is your actual job title and what qualifications do you have?

also please bare in mind that some visa's are only ever temporary and do not automatically allow partners or children.

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It's not exactly set in stone, I'm an apprentice trained manual large turner, 6 year old daughter I'd be looking to settle really, my family would be a lot better over there by the sounds of it. Looking for the comfortable outdoors lifestyle.

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How do you know you'll be better off and what do you mean with comfortable outdoor lifestyle? New Zealand is a big country and like anywhere each location will be better or worse for the individual.

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so fitter and turner is on the skill level classification

Fitter and Turner Visa Options – Skill Shortage Lists, Immigration New Zealand

you would need to satisfy immigration that you fit their requirements, unfortunately just getting a job offer does not mean you will get a visa to take it up.

My OH's job offer had to be rewritten 3 times to satisfy Immigration and he was already working in the position on a temp work visa.

Please make sure you read up on the immigration website as to what is required and that any visa you may be able to gain would include whoever you want to come over with or if it does not the other applicants could get a visa off their own skills.

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that will depend on what you are coming from and where to.

My life is much harder here than it was in the UK and we have older kids so no need for child care and both work, but every penny has to be accounted for and that is not something we had to do in the UK.

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I came over to nz about 7 years ago and loved it

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your dreamin mate, wake up and get real

Unless you come with a shit load of money so you dont have a mortgage in NZ,
you will be sorely disappointed. $850 will barely pay the rent and cover the bills.
Pick a town and look at the rental costs, Rent alone will take around 400 bucks
add in the other essentials such as utilities, transport, food, and you've got nothing left

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I liked Hawaii too but different if you're on holiday.

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I wasn't saying I was coming. You answered the question, but next time don't be so rude you dingus

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He is always rude. Youll probably be told not to take it personally. At least you didnt say anything negative about NZ.

NZ's ultimate defender. Actually surprised he didnt make up a story how you would be able to live on the wondeful air, grass and water.

Anyway keep your options open and do a little more research. But just on a glance it doesnt sound a very feasible option at the minute.

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Lots has changed since then so please don't make any decisions on you experience back then. Significant changes have happened since 18 months ago so 7 years ago is not going to be relevant now I am afraid to say.

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Jeez there's some soft arses around, you need to harden up a bit.

Maybe I should spin a yarn about how if you keep your options open, do some research and choose areas to live carefully,shop at pak n save, claim a benefit here and there, buy clothes at the warehouse and don't go out much you could make it work. so when you can then come over and realise you hate living like a peasant and you don't like NZ, living here and being poor is actually nothing like being on holiday, but you've spent everything you had on getting here and mow you now can't afford to go home even though you want to.

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Back up everyone.

born_bred_red : Please contact me about this 2nd registration. Only one account is OK , so I can help if you have lost your original log in details.

Justcol : I know you like to come across no nonsense and blunt but there is a line between that & being basically downright rude to someone new to BE who has done nothing more than ask a question .
If you joined such a conversation with that manner in real life , your antagonistic words to a complete stranger would likely land you a lump in the chops.
Your PoV and info is spot on & valid so don't spoil that by being antagonistic for no reason. There is no need .
Here's the way it works. We welcome newbies & look to help and guide. If in doubt read Site Rule 1.


Jordan : I had to google 'dingus' . :unsure:

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Let's start again.

Wages for a trade job can vary depending in which location you are in New Zealand, however from what you have written that would be a $27/$28 ph which seems about right .

As has been stated, unless you can be mortgage free then I feel that would be a very tough going living wage if you are hoping that your partner can be a stay at home mum. I've known a family or two that have survived on this BUT they have come from very different places and backgrounds so their expectations for their lives is far different.

Provided you have the relevant trade qualifications and experience , your trade is seen as skilled by New Zealand. However fitters & turners are not in shortage here in New Zealand at the moment. That makes it hard for any prospective employer to offer you a job as that employer will need to prove to the NZ Dept of Labour that there is no home grown that could take up that work or be trained up. That doesn't mean that a job offer couldn't be garnered. Just that offers will likely be very thin on the ground.

My husband and I survive on his employed trade wages. At his age now he prefers employment over self employed as it takes off the stress . However that comes with financial restrictions. We have no mortgage and no kids. We are certainly not frivolous in our spending but we do need to keep a tight grip on our budget to ensure everything stays on an even keel. That is our reality and it is restrictive . Yes. There is the free 'stuff' and all that but that can become dull.

For a young family looking for a complete change and new start NZ can be liberating but I think you are wise to really question if you will happily survive on that take home pay.

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Thanks Bevs. Yes I lost my orginal details. I think I set the account up in March/April though lost the login details. I couldnt remember my username. Possibly london_29 or something like that.

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H'okay . Will sort for you.

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Good, you got it and understand what you will be walking into. That puts you leaps ahead of most intending migrants. Far from doing it wrong, you are doing it correctly.

New Zealand's famous "lifestyle" requires gobs of cash which most don't have.

Best thing to do on your visit to NZ is talk to hiring managers in your profession. They will give you an idea of hiring prospects and so on. That is, if you have the correct visa or have a clear path to one. Hiring managers don't take on the role of Visa Santa Clauses.

My advice would be slow down. Take stock and see if a move really would be in your best interests, financially, personally, and career-wise, rather than just trying to race to NZ as fast as possible.

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Just to reiterate what everyone else is saying really. Surviving on one medium-ish income is not really doable especially in or near any of the cities or bigger towns where rents are higher.

We are a British couple with 2 kids (9 and 7) and all our friends with kids have one person working full-time and the other part-time (usually between 20-30 hours a week). The only exceptions are where one person is a high earner ($100K+ salary). Being a stay at home parent is not really an option financially for most of us, especially once the kids are at school.

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so Jordan as you say you would be coming over and being skint and working all the time.

The job is not on the skills list so as BEVS has pointed out any one wanting to hire from offshore is going to have to jump through some major hoops to satisfy Immigration that there is no one on both islands able to do the job.

If you do get a job offer and Immigration do accept that no one here can do the job and I am not sure under the current or any new criteria it will allow for your other family members to come as well and pay scale would determine if you would even get any other visa other than a temporarily one.

My suggestion would be to call NZ Immigration in UK and ask them. You could also check with them that you do have the relevant qualifications.

But what with the new government coming in with Greens and NZ First on board I think that immigration is again going to be hit by tighter controls and it is something that you need to keep a keen eye on going forward.

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Actually that is a good idea .

Some trade employers are what is called ' NZ immigration accredited' . Those employers can hire from overseas if they so wish.

Talk to Hays NZ who I know to be accredited .

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House prices doubled since then

And the houses built then are now starting to fall down (funny enough just after their 10 year warranties expire

Seriously if you cant find rental at 30% of your income (Gross) its not going to work out financially. Don't think "outdoors" means free entertainment.

I have friends who drive the bus route home in case they run out of petrol.
That day at the beach is wasted on them as they worry the whole time about how to get home.

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200k a year in whanganui or palmy is more than enough
Of course it depends on you expected lifestyle

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Quick question is it possible to live in palmy and commute to wangunui or live in the middle between the two

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$195k will be fine.

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It is if you don't mind an hours commute each way.

Not something I would do, I value my time at home too much

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ok, makes sense...