Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:37 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
I was not referring to the countries that all mucked in, I think you will find that Churchill was the main driving force and the vision for victory.
Nah, I think it was the Greeks mate, they all saw themselves as gods.
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:42 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
I am sorry that you have taken offence Campbell............the title of the thread is Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?................my offerings were genuinely meant - I don't see how else I could have worded my simple message so that you weren't offended 
Please go back and re-read my posting re the UAE................I did not mention Dubai and I did not include all employers, my comment was "our last employer" - who, just incidently, does employ thousands of people.
You obviously have no need to know how to make 'friends' with the 'locals' - you obviously have it all sorted....................so why don't you try and help the ones who would like some more information
..............and yes I felt embarrassed by a certain rugby players antics.
Please go back and re-read my posting re the UAE................I did not mention Dubai and I did not include all employers, my comment was "our last employer" - who, just incidently, does employ thousands of people.You obviously have no need to know how to make 'friends' with the 'locals' - you obviously have it all sorted....................so why don't you try and help the ones who would like some more information
..............and yes I felt embarrassed by a certain rugby players antics.
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:46 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
Hey congrats on a possible friendship.
My take on the positive thing is that, yeah initially you would not appreciate someone who has just moved here to start the old : "ooooooo you don't wanna do it like...." story. I mean, how to win friends right?
But if you have lived here for some years in the same environment you should be allowed to voice an opinion....without some kind of backlash - and I speak from personal experience of upsetting the applecart big time!! At work.
I guess im just one of those pesky little poms who has an opinon...
Some, not all, let's not generalise, but a large number of Kiwi's can't handle a brit coming here and voicing negative stuff, even if you are playing devils advocate and don't neccessarily aggree with the views you are presenting.
I also have found kiwi's have a bit of a problem with the "underling" confronting the 'status quo' e.g. questioning authority....
My take on the positive thing is that, yeah initially you would not appreciate someone who has just moved here to start the old : "ooooooo you don't wanna do it like...." story. I mean, how to win friends right?
But if you have lived here for some years in the same environment you should be allowed to voice an opinion....without some kind of backlash - and I speak from personal experience of upsetting the applecart big time!! At work.
I guess im just one of those pesky little poms who has an opinon...
Some, not all, let's not generalise, but a large number of Kiwi's can't handle a brit coming here and voicing negative stuff, even if you are playing devils advocate and don't neccessarily aggree with the views you are presenting.
I also have found kiwi's have a bit of a problem with the "underling" confronting the 'status quo' e.g. questioning authority....
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:49 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
Re the negative impact of on other nationalities - we have a certain number of 'slots' for immigrants each year and more Asians means less other nationalities.
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:58 am
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I think Campbell's reply and quotes sum up perfectly the pompous Brit attitude to the rest of the world. We, as Brits, are not better, superior, nor do we have all (or even any if the state of England is to go by) of the answers. No wonder Kiwis avoid making friends with Brits like you blowing there own trumpet all over the Kiwis homeland!
I for one am here to learn a different way of life not to make NZ into a Little Britain.
I for one am here to learn a different way of life not to make NZ into a Little Britain.
Sorry, but there are quite a few reasons to be proud of being British
Oct 22nd 2007, 6:59 am
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Thankyou Luvwelly and TeamEmbo 
.................I know I take my confidence in my hands when replying as a 'local' on an Expat website, but if I can give a hand to even one person I am happy 
.................I know I take my confidence in my hands when replying as a 'local' on an Expat website, but if I can give a hand to even one person I am happy
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:03 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
Funny thread overall.........
So many here only ever seem to make friends with other ex-pats and worry about how to 'fit in and be accepted' etc etc.
WHAT A LOAD OF TOTAL TOSH.
Be yourself, be friendly, remain British (thats where you come from after all)
Go out join a few clubs that you're into ie. sport etc and you'll be fine.
The way you read things here you'd think some are after their Kiwi Bestest best friend or something.
If a Kiwi doesn't accept the fact you're a Brit than sod em their loss......
I've made some friends or aquaintances through bike racing by finding the local bike club and turning up one night to say hello....its not difficult. I don't need a best mate but i do now have somewhere and a few guys to drink with if i need it which i don't but hey its fun.
Do we all need to change to come here.....?
Do we all need to become identikit Kiwis to fit in.....?
Do we all need to adopt the "BRIT EX-Pat' idea that kiwis are not materialistic and that being so doesn't fit in.......?
Like hell we do.............
So many here only ever seem to make friends with other ex-pats and worry about how to 'fit in and be accepted' etc etc.
WHAT A LOAD OF TOTAL TOSH.
Be yourself, be friendly, remain British (thats where you come from after all)
Go out join a few clubs that you're into ie. sport etc and you'll be fine.
The way you read things here you'd think some are after their Kiwi Bestest best friend or something.
If a Kiwi doesn't accept the fact you're a Brit than sod em their loss......
I've made some friends or aquaintances through bike racing by finding the local bike club and turning up one night to say hello....its not difficult. I don't need a best mate but i do now have somewhere and a few guys to drink with if i need it which i don't but hey its fun.
Do we all need to change to come here.....?
Do we all need to become identikit Kiwis to fit in.....?
Do we all need to adopt the "BRIT EX-Pat' idea that kiwis are not materialistic and that being so doesn't fit in.......?
Like hell we do.............
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Oct 22nd 2007, 7:05 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
I also have found kiwi's have a bit of a problem with the "underling" confronting the 'status quo' e.g. questioning authority....[/QUOTE]
Ooh 'eck....looks like I'm in for some bother!
Ooh 'eck....looks like I'm in for some bother!
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:08 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
I found disagreeable the way you attacked the poster, who I believe was actually giving the rest of us who are interested in forging positive and lasting friendships with Kiwis some very useful and informative advice. The poster wasn't laying down any kind of law but simply stating ways in which we could view things from the 'local' perspective. Telling the poster to 'get over it' and such was really not called for especially as she had actually gone to the trouble of answering the OP in a constructive and non-biased way.
This thread really doesn't need to degenerate as so many do.
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:28 am
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Re: Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?
No. And it gets really tiresome hearing the 'opinion' line.
I found disagreeable the way you attacked the poster, who I believe was actually giving the rest of us who are interested in forging positive and lasting friendships with Kiwis some very useful and informative advice. The poster wasn't laying down any kind of law but simply stating ways in which we could view things from the 'local' perspective. Telling the poster to 'get over it' and such was really not called for especially as she had actually gone to the trouble of answering the OP in a constructive and non-biased way.
This thread really doesn't need to degenerate as so many do.
I found disagreeable the way you attacked the poster, who I believe was actually giving the rest of us who are interested in forging positive and lasting friendships with Kiwis some very useful and informative advice. The poster wasn't laying down any kind of law but simply stating ways in which we could view things from the 'local' perspective. Telling the poster to 'get over it' and such was really not called for especially as she had actually gone to the trouble of answering the OP in a constructive and non-biased way.
This thread really doesn't need to degenerate as so many do.
I am all for Delores - it's great having a kiwi giving an opinion here. Personally I find Campbell really refreshing. It's all good. At least is has livened up the NZ board a bit!
How many times can you read a thread where everyone is busy patting themselves smugly on the back?
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:31 am
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As yes Hoyo.................but is it termed a 'debate' if neither side is listening to each other
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:31 am
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I am sorry that you have taken offence Campbell............the title of the thread is Making Kiwi Mates - What's the Secret?................my offerings were genuinely meant - I don't see how else I could have worded my simple message so that you weren't offended Please go back and re-read my posting re the UAE................I did not mention Dubai and I did not include all employers, my comment was "our last employer" - who, just incidently, does employ thousands of people.
You obviously have no need to know how to make 'friends' with the 'locals' - you obviously have it all sorted....................so why don't you try and help the ones who would like some more information
..............and yes I felt embarrassed by a certain rugby players antics.
Please go back and re-read my posting re the UAE................I did not mention Dubai and I did not include all employers, my comment was "our last employer" - who, just incidently, does employ thousands of people.You obviously have no need to know how to make 'friends' with the 'locals' - you obviously have it all sorted....................so why don't you try and help the ones who would like some more information
..............and yes I felt embarrassed by a certain rugby players antics.
Call me whatever, but I am not interested in trying to pretend I am a Kiwi to become accepted. As I said, I will never be Kiwi and that is the cold, hard facts. I am happy with that and if that means that, I can only have friends of non-Kiwi nationality then so be it.
The “certain rugby player’s antics” are most common all over the place in NZ any Friday or Saturday night and your Kiwi sporting ambassador just confirms (to the eyes of the world) that you are no nation of saints.
New Zealand is certainly not short of yobs, otherwise known as lewd & crude (that includes the Kiwiesses).
Re your experience in UAE, the way it was worded
“In fact in our last place of employment (UAE) they refused to employ Brits because that was the way they acted!!”
To me that read that you are stating that the UAE refused to employ Brits because of their attitude.
Cheers
Oct 22nd 2007, 7:34 am
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[QUOTE=Campbells;5452453
Re your experience in UAE, the way it was worded
“In fact in our last place of employment (UAE) they refused to employ Brits because that was the way they acted!!”
To me that read that you are stating that the UAE refused to employ Brits because of their attitude.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Yes I see how some people could be confused by that - I will edit my post
Re your experience in UAE, the way it was worded
“In fact in our last place of employment (UAE) they refused to employ Brits because that was the way they acted!!”
To me that read that you are stating that the UAE refused to employ Brits because of their attitude.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Yes I see how some people could be confused by that - I will edit my post