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Old Mar 17th 2008, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Yotty
The penny may drop soon exxy... but don't forget she's female and from an eastern english county!
Oh shut up you.

It's still an extremely shitty reason to swear allegiance to a country, though, isn't it? With the express intent of leaving as soon as he has his passport in his sweaty little hands. Crappy thing to do. Pretty dumb to announce it on a public website too.
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Old Mar 17th 2008, 3:12 pm
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Australian immigration should have a one-off amnesty whereby NZ cleanses itself of all the wannabe Ozzies at one go. Seems a shame (in every way) they are stuck here for five years.

It must however be amusing for native aussies who must p**s themselves laughing with all these poor poms doing their time in NZ before they are allowed in. With their history its kind of ironic really.
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I suspect that most of them couldn't give a rats *****
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Old Mar 17th 2008, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by ex_exile
What can they do about it? Nothing really
True story

A friend of Mrs Nice Guy is a pom and already has Kiwi citizenship.

Her husband got his Kiwi passport and a job opportunity in Oz, so off he went leaving wife to tidy up the affairs and sell the two houses they had.

Wife was in the process of getting the Kiwi passport with the intention of joining husband legally in Oz, at border control it's called a SVC, Special Visa Category.

I'm not too sure why but she had to contact the NZ passport office for some reason, it could be to ask about the relationship with her husband, but in the casual conversation that ensued she let drop that she would be moving to Oz.

Conversation tone changed and passport application instantly refused, possibly for a very long time (this is over 1 year ago now).

Sadly since then they have both gone their separate ways.



So yep, they can do something.......and they do!!

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Just aside as well, the person in question has not claimed he/she will necessarily be staying to get NZ citizenship/passport.

So far it is only speculation fro this thread..............as far as I am aware!
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Old Mar 17th 2008, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Nice Guy
True story

A friend of Mrs Nice Guy is a pom and already has Kiwi citizenship.

Her husband got his Kiwi passport and a job opportunity in Oz, so off he went leaving wife to tidy up the affairs and sell the two houses they had.

Wife was in the process of getting the Kiwi passport with the intention of joining husband legally in Oz, at border control it's called a SVC, Special Visa Category.

I'm not too sure why but she had to contact the NZ passport office for some reason, it could be to ask about the relationship with her husband, but in the casual conversation that ensued she let drop that she would be moving to Oz.

Conversation tone changed and passport application instantly refused, possibly for a very long time (this is over 1 year ago now).

Sadly since then they have both gone their separate ways.



So yep, they can do something.......and they do!!

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Sounds like an urban myth

If she was a citizen she cannot be refused a New Zealand passport, it is one of the privilages of citizenship. If on the otherhand she informed the citizenship office that she was selling up and moving to Australian then she can be refused citizenship.

SCV's are not refused at border control because you intent to move to Australia, you would already be in Australia by that time anyway as SCV's (subclass 444) are issued at the far end they would have had to deport her if it was refused.

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Mrs Nice Guy is an Urban Legend!!

Take or leave the story but it is not an urban myth!
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Originally Posted by Nice Guy
Just aside as well, the person in question has not claimed he/she will necessarily be staying to get NZ citizenship/passport.

So far it is only speculation fro this thread..............as far as I am aware!
Hey ex, note the part above. Sounds like it was during the application for citizenship.
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Originally Posted by Nice Guy
Mrs Nice Guy is an Urban Legend!!

Take or leave the story but it is not an urban myth!
Sorry, have to leave it as SCV's have nothing at all to do with New Zealand passport office.
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Originally Posted by Maz
Hey ex, note the part above. Sounds like it was during the application for citizenship.
Noted. Was hoping that they would come and deny the speculation as it might get them in trouble with DIA
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Originally Posted by southerner
Australian immigration should have a one-off amnesty whereby NZ cleanses itself of all the wannabe Ozzies at one go. Seems a shame (in every way) they are stuck here for five years.

It must however be amusing for native aussies who must p**s themselves laughing with all these poor poms doing their time in NZ before they are allowed in. With their history its kind of ironic really.
I would expect they have other stuff to occupy them but they do laugh at new zealunders............
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Old Mar 17th 2008, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Maz
......an extremely shitty reason to swear allegiance to a country, though, isn't it? With the express intent of leaving as soon as he has his passport in his sweaty little hands. Crappy thing to do....
Its not that smelly at all - lots of people change their perceptions of NZ and Oz when they have been here a while and some of them decide to grit their teeth, bear it and take the passport at the end.
You'd be suprised how many people have done this or are in the process - just listen to a few ex-Pats around the workplace, I met three who did just that or were at the end of the process and couldn't wait to get away once it had come through.
Plus I know several other people socially who are in the same quandry....
Anyhow, how is it that much worse than coming over on a VV with every intention of working here and then applying for PR with NZ experience?
At least it is technically more "legal".....
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Originally Posted by lardyl
Its not that smelly at all -
Oh stop you're too funny , luckily you are amongst friends here
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Hey don't you find swearing from a lady to be a real turn-off?
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Originally Posted by Maz
Oh shut up you.

It's still an extremely shitty reason to swear allegiance to a country, though, isn't it? With the express intent of leaving as soon as he has his passport in his sweaty little hands. Crappy thing to do. Pretty dumb to announce it on a public website too.
OH, fade away Maz........
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