waterlooo

He said he was going to New Zealand, along with his girlfriend - a trainee surgeon who hasn't been given any interviews - to get a better quality of training.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6459337.stm

Lenmil

Say's it all don't it. UK is just sliding down into even more rubbish.

mazi

"Under the new UK system, we will have to have 28 assessments a year. Twenty-five years ago we were never checked, but now the pendulum has swung too far the other way."

And this is bad why?

English docs love going to NZ as they get more respect there for being English and trained in England (so says my doc friend, who is English and lives in NZ) - the reason for this is...well, do I have to spell it out?

danny.f

To me,I'm afraid-yes.

mazi

You wanna fight?

Jude J

Just spell it out. Please.

danny.f

An answer will do for now,ta.

mazi

No. Can't spell. Not til Danny F starts fighting again, anyway.

Avid

Oh I don't know....my sister-in-law works as The Head of Media for some health partnernership-trust or whatever they are called and she makes more than the doctors! And she spends nearly all her time 'paintballing' as a 'team building exercise'


It's not all gloom, you know.

mazi

What was the q again?

AlbieLittle

Interesting cos the docs here are moaning that the standard of University trained docs who have just graduated just aren't up to the standard they need when they start on the wards.

They spend too much time writing papers and not enough in the deep end!

Want good training? Move to South Africa - takes about 9 years to qualify there, the students have to do work experience in far flung villages in the wop wops.

lapsed kiwi

I think what Mazi was trying to insinuate (and please forgive me, Mazi, if I've got this all wrong) is that NZ doctors, like everything else in NZ, are crap, and therefore English doctors seem great in comparison.

mazi

No, I wasn't - my doc friend was insinuating that the Kiwi docs give her kudos for having been a doc in the UK, and that makes her feel good.

Not everything is crap in NZ - where did you get that idea?

lapsed kiwi

I can't possibly imagine

ezzkazz

Mazi mazi mazi you seem to wanna fight everyone. How about some anger management. I have just read another post and you are trying to square up someone