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Overall, it's a little more expensive but nothing major.
Nothing major

It may be a 'little' bit more expensive when you're looking at a few meals here and there when in holiday mode. It soon adds up week in and week out.

Our recent visitors were truly stunned at the prices we paid for everything and I expect it will be a long time before they're fully recovered emotionally and financially. Their jaws were scraping on the floor during their first shopping experience in NZ and they were totally floored when their first bill totalled in excess of $100 for a 'few bits' for sandwiches, fruit and salad stuff that they bought for a picnic lunch.
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Nothing major

It may be a 'little' bit more expensive when you're looking at a few meals here and there when in holiday mode. It soon adds up week in and week out.

Our recent visitors were truly stunned at the prices we paid for everything and I expect it will be a long time before they're fully recovered emotionally and financially. Their jaws were scraping on the floor during their first shopping experience in NZ and they were totally floored when their first bill totalled in excess of $100 for a 'few bits' for sandwiches, fruit and salad stuff that they bought for a picnic lunch.
I cooked no less than 7 meals for between 6 and 8 people whilst I was there. All different, I did nice salads ( sprouts / sweet peppers / home made coleslaw / feta and charcuterie meats etc), I made a lamb rogan josh from scratch, we had a couple of barbecues, full English breakfasts, ready cooked chickens, I even made home made pizza's including a range of toppings. I'd say I easily bought a big range of different products along with toiletries, soft and alcoholic drinks etc, as I said, I mainly used what was on promotion with the exception of what I couldn't get. Yes, some items were expensive like new potatoes and mozzarella cheese, but others were cheaper, lamb and beef particularly.
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Originally Posted by Lisa Maree View Post
Oh and we did transfer our life savings over last week at $1.60... now that was horrific.


Your under 10 and this is pocket money?

or just ignore the $
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Originally Posted by Stuck in Auckland View Post


Your under 10 and this is pocket money?

or just ignore the $

Wow aren't you a gem, such a helpful and well considered comment
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Wow aren't you a gem, such a helpful and well considered comment
Sorry if it was taken as snarky, was supposed to be jovial
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My total shopping bill is around the same as what I paid while in the UK, although admittedly I did shop at Waitrose. However, I have always shopped seasonally which makes a difference (e.g. $1 for a kilo of apples). I also have 5 large supermarkets near me which might keep prices down too.

Higher prices on non-food items are more than made up by cheaper petrol, electricity and lower taxes. Plus my rates are half what I paid in the UK for a smaller property. Depends on what you choose to look at.
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My total shopping bill is around the same as what I paid while in the UK, although admittedly I did shop at Waitrose. However, I have always shopped seasonally which makes a difference (e.g. $1 for a kilo of apples). I also have 5 large supermarkets near me which might keep prices down too.

Higher prices on non-food items are more than made up by cheaper petrol, electricity and lower taxes. Plus my rates are half what I paid in the UK for a smaller property. Depends on what you choose to look at.
Totally agree. When you factor everything in, inspite of real rip offs like paint, cement, books etc life in NZ is pretty much the same cost wise as the UK. What is hugely different is what houses can cost. A 1950s, properly built, quality bungalow and it is worth 252k pounds at an excahnge rate of 1.70. Nice area, loads of local jobs, great schools, 4 beds, 3 baths, modern, big garage, sleep out, big gardens, in a leafy cul de sac etc. If you could get 2.30 (which it was afore brexit) it would only cost 187k pounds. Try to get all that in a nice area somewhere in provincial UK. Not sure you would be able to, at either price.
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Come on now, let's not get carried away. The cost of living in NZ is excessive. I can never figure out why some choose to deny it. We were spending a fortune on electricity in NZ, houses aren't built to retain heat so in a place like dunedin you spent a fortune warming the house especially with a baby due to not being able to afford basics like wall insulation and double glazing. Petrol here in is the same price as Dunedin, £1.15 (NZ$2), and maybe VAT is higher but everything is so much cheaper so you don't notice it and you don't pay income tax on everything you earn. Plus VAT isn't on everything.

Apart from Fish and Chips, fast food and car insurance I can't think of anything that's more expensive than NZ. Even NZ produce is cheaper here, I've had a few pints of imported NZ beer way cheaper than a pint of locally brewed beer in Dunedin.

I'll be buying a caravan soon, something else I couldn't even dream about affording in NZ.

We move into our modern central heated double glazed house this week and we'll be doing The Big Shop for The Big Shop Comparison. It's going to be a CRACKER!!!!
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Originally Posted by barnsleymat View Post
Come on now, let's not get carried away. The cost of living in NZ is excessive. I can never figure out why some choose to deny it. We were spending a fortune on electricity in NZ, houses aren't built to retain heat so in a place like dunedin you spent a fortune warming the house especially with a baby due to not being able to afford basics like wall insulation and double glazing. Petrol here in is the same price as Dunedin, £1.15 (NZ$2), and maybe VAT is higher but everything is so much cheaper so you don't notice it and you don't pay income tax on everything you earn. Plus VAT isn't on everything.

Apart from Fish and Chips, fast food and car insurance I can't think of anything that's more expensive than NZ. Even NZ produce is cheaper here, I've had a few pints of imported NZ beer way cheaper than a pint of locally brewed beer in Dunedin.

I'll be buying a caravan soon, something else I couldn't even dream about affording in NZ.

We move into our modern central heated double glazed house this week and we'll be doing The Big Shop for The Big Shop Comparison. It's going to be a CRACKER!!!!
I completely agree Mat. Since we've been back we still cannot believe how cheap most things are here. We don't earn as much here as in NZ but because of not paying tax on every cent earned and lower cost of living our standards haven't changed. I still find Waitrose and M&S cheap compared to NZ prices. We are still renting but have 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 3 receptions rooms etc for over $1000/month less than we were paying in Silverdale. People can be selective in choosing what suits but after almost 10 years in NZ we are amazed at choice, quality and cost back home.
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If you are going to use the current exchange rate to exacerbate the cost of everything in NZD then equally you have to accept that wages in NZ are now 20% higher than they were before Brexit. My salary here in GBP is far in excess of what I'd be earning in UK unless I blagged a top job somewhere or was a self-employed contractor.

Even though I get taxed on every penny, I still take home a slightly larger proportion than I would in UK.

On quality, I disagree that food quality is higher in the UK. I would estimate our grocery bills are roughly 10% higher. But you can't really compare like for like, because here you shop differently and for slightly different stuff than in UK.
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Originally Posted by barnsleymat View Post
Come on now, let's not get carried away. The cost of living in NZ is excessive. I can never figure out why some choose to deny it. We were spending a fortune on electricity in NZ, houses aren't built to retain heat so in a place like dunedin you spent a fortune warming the house especially with a baby due to not being able to afford basics like wall insulation and double glazing. Petrol here in is the same price as Dunedin, £1.15 (NZ$2), and maybe VAT is higher but everything is so much cheaper so you don't notice it and you don't pay income tax on everything you earn. Plus VAT isn't on everything.

Apart from Fish and Chips, fast food and car insurance I can't think of anything that's more expensive than NZ. Even NZ produce is cheaper here, I've had a few pints of imported NZ beer way cheaper than a pint of locally brewed beer in Dunedin.

I'll be buying a caravan soon, something else I couldn't even dream about affording in NZ.

We move into our modern central heated double glazed house this week and we'll be doing The Big Shop for The Big Shop Comparison. It's going to be a CRACKER!!!!
I had my house insulated. Top and bottom. Huge difference. The DVS (air circulation system) that is in the house means there is never condensation. I bought a lovely 1965 caravan for $3200. 4 birth, needs a bit of work, say 1k to get thru a WoF. But I use it as a sleep out in my garden. It is stylish and beautiful.

I deny NOTHING negative about NZ. I just happen to NOT find it expensive. But that is just me. I live a hugely more comfortable life here in NZ than I believe I would in the UK. But I do not want to live in the UK anyway as it is too populous...that is my only bugbear with the country.

Considering my minimal net worth (for my advanced age anyhow), what my house cost here in NZ (and what a comprable one in a comprable area in the UK would cost) and the quality of life my home and locale affords me and my general lifestyle, 2 cars, a motorbike and regular local holidays. I do all this on $600 a week, give or take a few bob. Okay, I have no accomodation expenses, buy 2nd hand clothes and shop shrewdly, but I could not live the way I do, on that money, in the UK.

It matters not eh? You are very happy in the UK and I am very happy with things in NZ. That is all that matters. For you and for me we live where suits us best. Which is nice.

Not sure what you are trying to achieve by the constant comparison of prices Matt. You do not live here any more. What relevance does the cost comparison of UK prices versus NZ prices to someone living in the UK? If you want folk to more aware about negative stuff in NZ you would be better sticking to the shite driving, awful high stats on the fatalities re the latter, the terrible exchange rate and that there is a burglary every 7 minutes. Then there is our terribly high suicide rate, domestic violence et al. There is so much bad stuff in NZ (like anywhere) that is so more important Matt than the price of food.

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Genesis, You've changed your tune! Let me remind you of one of your posts from 4 yrs ago ...
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On Campbell live tonight.... 3 baskets of shopping, all the same stuff.

In NZ $202 odd NZ$
In Oz around $175 NZ$
In the UK $128 odd NZ$

Almost all of the food in the NZ basket was home produce too.

There is a food duopoly in NZ and apparently no govt. in the last 20 years has made any effort to break it. We are being ripped off mercilessly here in NZ every time we shop for food (and other stuff). Have known it for years but here is the hard proof and research. And don't find an excuse like a small market will have higher prices...remember all this is local stuff.
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Its not getting any cheaper!
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If you are going to use the current exchange rate to exacerbate the cost of everything in NZD then equally you have to accept that wages in NZ are now 20% higher than they were before Brexit.
I've just turned a job down very similar to the job I was doing at the Uni in Dunedin and using todays exchange rate the wages are very similar. My mate who was a builder in Dunedin is now earning more here than he was in NZ using the exchange rate also.

Even if the exchange rate was at 2.50 prices would still look expensive.
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I think it is expensive where ever you are in NZ. I don't think food in Palmy is any dearer that food in Auckland or Hamilton. It is overpriced everywhere. I always feel utterly shafted after a shop in NZ...well and truly. Or when I buy paint, or a car part or a car, or most things in fact save petrol and car insurance. The latter being the ONLY 2 things that really are better value in NZ, everything else is a wrought IMO.

NZ is like a flock of pelicans....big, big bills all over the place! .
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I deny NOTHING negative about NZ. I just happen to NOT find it expensive. But that is just me. I live a hugely more comfortable life here in NZ than I believe I would in the UK. But I do not want to live in the UK anyway as it is too populous...that is my only bugbear with the country.
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I've just turned a job down very similar to the job I was doing at the Uni in Dunedin and using todays exchange rate the wages are very similar. My mate who was a builder in Dunedin is now earning more here than he was in NZ using the exchange rate also.

Even if the exchange rate was at 2.50 prices would still look expensive.
Maybe it's just my field that is paid badly in the UK

A few treats I enjoy here:

4 large, freshly made sushi rolls with wasabi and soy from the local sushi shop = $4 (GBP 2.34)

250g slab of whittakers chocolate = $4.50 (GBP 2.63)

Bottle of Pinot Gris or Pinot Noir = $10.79 (GBP 6.30)

I used to buy sushi in UK for lunch and I know that I would struggle to buy the same quantity and quality for under 5 quid.

Chocolate is roughly the same price but nicer than cadburys (there are cheaper deals than this from time to time).

To get the same quality of wine, I would spending 10 -15 quid. And that's at 1.71 exchange rate. At a rate of 2.5, these things are a bargain.

As an aside, renters don't pay council tax or water rates. Home buyers don't pay stamp duty or equivalent.
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