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Old Nov 19th 2011, 4:32 am
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Can anyone help with the hourly rate a self employed Carpenter/Joiner should be asking for when pricing jobs in the Blenheim/Marlborough region please? We have found some information but it all seems a few years old.

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Old Nov 19th 2011, 6:53 am
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Can anyone help with the hourly rate a self employed Carpenter/Joiner should be asking for when pricing jobs in the Blenheim/Marlborough region please? We have found some information but it all seems a few years old.

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I have heard that a plumber earns around $30 an hour working for some one, so I would say $40-$45 an hour self employed..what do you reckon? Recently I had a chap who is a builder quote me an hourly rate of $35 an hour!!!!!!
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Might be interesting to see if there are any Hire a Hubby franchises in the area. If so ask them what their rate is. Here in South Auckland one charges $70 per hour but then the franchise takes a cut of this. I'm not suggesting that you buy a franchise, but it might offer some comparison as to what the market will bear. After all, you'll get what people are prepared to pay. Our Hire a Hubby is very busy so obviously there are enough people prepared to pay $70 to a man doing DIY work. If I was starting up in the same field in this area I might look for $50 - $60 per hour. Word of mouth counts for a lot, so if you build up a good reputation you can do well. I'm guessing Marlborough might be a bit less than this, but I don't really know the area I'm afraid.
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I'm self employed, tiling related and I work on $50.00 an hour minimum.
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I'm in the wrong profession...
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I'm in the wrong profession...
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Can anyone help with the hourly rate a self employed Carpenter/Joiner should be asking for when pricing jobs in the Blenheim/Marlborough region please? We have found some information but it all seems a few years old.

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look on www.trademe.co.nz under Blenheim/Marlborough
also, look at the required qualifications. we know a city and guilds carpenter from UK with 20 years experience and excellent skills whose qualifications were not recognised (2008) and so he was given a chippy job in Blenheim at 17dollars an hour.
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we know a city and guilds carpenter from UK with 20 years experience and excellent skills whose qualifications were not recognised (2008)
Not recognised by whom?
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I cannot speak for NZ but in the UK for some while when assessing tradesman skills the accepted levels would be achieved NVQ,s. Apprentices papers and any paper qualification was not an indication that the tradesman was any good skill wise, fairly sensible really. When wanting a leak fixing you need a man who can use a blow torch, flux and solder not someone who can read it from a book but has never done it.
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Que? Where do leaks come into it? Not sure you'd want a blowtorch , solder & flux around a plastic flexi pipe.

Carpenter is seen as a skilled occupation by NZIS. To come into NZ as a skilled carpenter the tradesman has to show his trade quals match the NZ standard. NZIS state which trade quals are recognised by NZ. The standard needs to match here & it is matched module to module. That would be NVQ3 and above.

Apprenticeship papers are a very good indication of standards as this involves on the tools experience over 4/5 years + practical tests & assessments. One of the reasons NZ prefer work based apprenticeships for their tradesmen & something the UK should look to return to if it could.

So, who didn't or wouldn't recognise the overseas carpenters credentials. Do we think it was an NZ employer, who would have been happy for the bloke to do the work but wouldn't pay the trade's going rate?
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Not recognised by whom?
by his employer in NZ and he said not recognised in NZ.
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Old Nov 22nd 2011, 8:52 am
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Maybe chosen to not have been recognised by the employer so he could pay a cheap rate for a skilled man but it had to have been recognised by NZ for the carpenter to get into the country under that skilled trade.
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Maybe chosen to not have been recognised by the employer so he could pay a cheap rate for a skilled man but it had to have been recognised by NZ for the carpenter to get into the country under that skilled trade.
He got in on his qualifications and experience, but could not do skilled work (that he had been doing for 20 years) as every interviewer said that he had to have something called NVQ and not City and Guilds, something like that, so he settled for working as a basic carpenter, sawing planks of wood and banging nails in at 17 dollars an hour.
He and his wife cut their stay short and stayed for a year instead of two.
He mentioned that he daily got ribbed for being a pom, at first he thought it was a joke and then after a year it had not stopped. He was a bit upset by it, bit of a shame really.
But they definitely enjoyed the scenery and outdoors and did meet some nice people here.
They went on to live in Greece where he fits out the interiors of yachts, gets well paid despite the recession (guess millionaires can still afford yachts!) and they are very happy.

so it would definitely pay to ring up some firms in blenheim or wherever you want to work, ask them whether they recognise your qualifications and go from there. because although immigration may recognise them, the employer may not.

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