HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
#121
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
May I just go back to those images I posted further back in the thread? they were actually from the teara.govt.nz website, on which it was admitted they were romanticised images designed to attract migrants.
Did those images accurately portray the reality of life for many people living in NZ at that time and isn't the same thing still being done today? and Why?
Whitesand - you made a very important point about the economic benefits of migration in NZ. Without it the economy would be dependent on milk, meat and wool sales. I'd love to see some statistics on the amount of money migration adds to the economy and the government coffers every year.
Did those images accurately portray the reality of life for many people living in NZ at that time and isn't the same thing still being done today? and Why?
Whitesand - you made a very important point about the economic benefits of migration in NZ. Without it the economy would be dependent on milk, meat and wool sales. I'd love to see some statistics on the amount of money migration adds to the economy and the government coffers every year.
#122
Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
May I just go back to those images I posted further back in the thread? they were actually from the teara.govt.nz website, on which it was admitted they were romanticised images designed to attract migrants.
Did those images accurately portray the reality of life for many people living in NZ at that time and isn't the same thing still being done today? and Why?
Whitesand - you made a very important point about the economic benefits of migration in NZ. Without it the economy would be dependent on milk, meat and wool sales. I'd love to see some statistics on the amount of money migration adds to the economy and the government coffers every year.
Did those images accurately portray the reality of life for many people living in NZ at that time and isn't the same thing still being done today? and Why?
Whitesand - you made a very important point about the economic benefits of migration in NZ. Without it the economy would be dependent on milk, meat and wool sales. I'd love to see some statistics on the amount of money migration adds to the economy and the government coffers every year.
Somewhere I read that for every 2.5 new immigrants the ripple creates one new job in New Zealand.
Whether that is a diary farmer or sheep shearer, I can’t say.
#123
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
Hey Kippers, you seem a walking or in this case sitting encyclopedia. You need to get out more.
So as soon as someone brings more than just bias and lies to a discussion they get this response? Nice.
I get the feeling that all this talk about not being allowed to say anything negative about NZ is simply a case of 'best defense is a good offense', the sheer volume of negative stufff in here by the same old people again and again is staggering, its not constructive its not helpful, you paint things as fact when it is in fact just opinion. And anyone that dares to disagree with you is insulted.
You may have a hard time sttling into NZ and you may not like some of the aspects of NZ life, put up with it or go home. Dont vent your frustartions at people who might come to this board fot useful information, its no coincidence that most the the whingers on this board very rarely actually offer any constructive advice, they perefer just to whine.. and whine... and whine. It's tedious.
They even whine when people disagree with thier negative opinions, misery loves company and they have it on this board in spades.
I am not going to stop coming to NZ because I have spent a lot of time there and discussed lots of the positives and negatives with my partner, but I do worry that people just considering coming to NZ arent getting a true reflection of the countryon this board but instead just a reflection of some bitter individuals who would be unhappy no matter what country they lived in.
#124
Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
A prime example,
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10474763
Note – no mention that the praat could have killed innocent people
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10474763
Note – no mention that the praat could have killed innocent people
#125
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
Note – no mention that the praat could have killed innocent people
#126
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
I'm sure that people are adult enough to reach their own conclusions about the positives and negatives of New Zealand after hearing both sides of a discussion.
But I doubt though that anyone would base their decision to emigrate soley on the views of posters on this forum (or any other)
There is no substitute for first hand experience, everyone has a different take on life. It's good that people feel able to talk openly about it on here don't you think?
Welcome to a forum.
But I doubt though that anyone would base their decision to emigrate soley on the views of posters on this forum (or any other)
There is no substitute for first hand experience, everyone has a different take on life. It's good that people feel able to talk openly about it on here don't you think?
Welcome to a forum.
#128
Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
(This post is by BSG's partner, we share an account as I am English and thinking of moving to NZ with him next year.)
So as soon as someone brings more than just bias and lies to a discussion they get this response? Nice.
I get the feeling that all this talk about not being allowed to say anything negative about NZ is simply a case of 'best defense is a good offense', the sheer volume of negative stufff in here by the same old people again and again is staggering, its not constructive its not helpful, you paint things as fact when it is in fact just opinion. And anyone that dares to disagree with you is insulted.
You may have a hard time sttling into NZ and you may not like some of the aspects of NZ life, put up with it or go home. Dont vent your frustartions at people who might come to this board fot useful information, its no coincidence that most the the whingers on this board very rarely actually offer any constructive advice, they perefer just to whine.. and whine... and whine. It's tedious.
They even whine when people disagree with thier negative opinions, misery loves company and they have it on this board in spades.
I am not going to stop coming to NZ because I have spent a lot of time there and discussed lots of the positives and negatives with my partner, but I do worry that people just considering coming to NZ arent getting a true reflection of the countryon this board but instead just a reflection of some bitter individuals who would be unhappy no matter what country they lived in.
So as soon as someone brings more than just bias and lies to a discussion they get this response? Nice.
I get the feeling that all this talk about not being allowed to say anything negative about NZ is simply a case of 'best defense is a good offense', the sheer volume of negative stufff in here by the same old people again and again is staggering, its not constructive its not helpful, you paint things as fact when it is in fact just opinion. And anyone that dares to disagree with you is insulted.
You may have a hard time sttling into NZ and you may not like some of the aspects of NZ life, put up with it or go home. Dont vent your frustartions at people who might come to this board fot useful information, its no coincidence that most the the whingers on this board very rarely actually offer any constructive advice, they perefer just to whine.. and whine... and whine. It's tedious.
They even whine when people disagree with thier negative opinions, misery loves company and they have it on this board in spades.
I am not going to stop coming to NZ because I have spent a lot of time there and discussed lots of the positives and negatives with my partner, but I do worry that people just considering coming to NZ arent getting a true reflection of the countryon this board but instead just a reflection of some bitter individuals who would be unhappy no matter what country they lived in.
Interesting post. Where in England do you come from?
Is the Baron from England or France?
So if you are “thinking” of moving to New Zealand with the Baron what are the positive aspects you have to offer regarding New Zealand (perhaps a new topic for this is more appropriate that the current road issue on this one)?
I would me most interested to hear what it is that makes you want to leave your country of birth ( if that is the case ?) to move to New Zealand, better prospects perhaps ? Would be interested (and I am sure others too) to hear your input on your situation. I am sure that will be a positive contribution for the Brit Ex Pats community.
Good luck with your decisions Baroness (if I may call you that, being English it may offend!)
#129
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
Whats Karma?
#130
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
(This post is by BSG's partner, we share an account as I am English and thinking of moving to NZ with him next year.)
So as soon as someone brings more than just bias and lies to a discussion they get this response? Nice.
I get the feeling that all this talk about not being allowed to say anything negative about NZ is simply a case of 'best defense is a good offense', the sheer volume of negative stufff in here by the same old people again and again is staggering, its not constructive its not helpful, you paint things as fact when it is in fact just opinion. And anyone that dares to disagree with you is insulted.
You may have a hard time sttling into NZ and you may not like some of the aspects of NZ life, put up with it or go home. Dont vent your frustartions at people who might come to this board fot useful information, its no coincidence that most the the whingers on this board very rarely actually offer any constructive advice, they perefer just to whine.. and whine... and whine. It's tedious.
They even whine when people disagree with thier negative opinions, misery loves company and they have it on this board in spades.
I am not going to stop coming to NZ because I have spent a lot of time there and discussed lots of the positives and negatives with my partner, but I do worry that people just considering coming to NZ arent getting a true reflection of the countryon this board but instead just a reflection of some bitter individuals who would be unhappy no matter what country they lived in.
So as soon as someone brings more than just bias and lies to a discussion they get this response? Nice.
I get the feeling that all this talk about not being allowed to say anything negative about NZ is simply a case of 'best defense is a good offense', the sheer volume of negative stufff in here by the same old people again and again is staggering, its not constructive its not helpful, you paint things as fact when it is in fact just opinion. And anyone that dares to disagree with you is insulted.
You may have a hard time sttling into NZ and you may not like some of the aspects of NZ life, put up with it or go home. Dont vent your frustartions at people who might come to this board fot useful information, its no coincidence that most the the whingers on this board very rarely actually offer any constructive advice, they perefer just to whine.. and whine... and whine. It's tedious.
They even whine when people disagree with thier negative opinions, misery loves company and they have it on this board in spades.
I am not going to stop coming to NZ because I have spent a lot of time there and discussed lots of the positives and negatives with my partner, but I do worry that people just considering coming to NZ arent getting a true reflection of the countryon this board but instead just a reflection of some bitter individuals who would be unhappy no matter what country they lived in.
Insults, just look who cast the first stone.
Lies
The houses are cold (mostly)
Wages are not good,
Drivers are crap , The test over here is to easy now, I can't imagine how it was 30 years ago. These are concerns to many people. You people belong in a fascist dictatorship where only propaganda by you is published. Are you the morality censor on this site?
You have your head the same place as your mate. See earlier post. You are the bitter twisted individuals who like to stick their heads in the sand.
I tried to explain other peoples outlook to you but alas you have your earplugs in. I can post my opinions on here within the forum rules. You must be the self assigned moderators.
#131
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
Greetings Baron’s partner,
Interesting post. Where in England do you come from?
Is the Baron from England or France?
Good luck with your decisions Baroness (if I may call you that, being English it may offend!)
I am moving to NZ after spending a year with him there in 2004, it was lovely. And he wants to return home for good and start a family. I liked the time I spent living there and think the UK is not as good for bringing up a family.
#133
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
You people belong in a fascist dictatorship where only propaganda by you is published. Are you the morality censor on this site?
You have your head the same place as your mate. See earlier post. You are the bitter twisted individuals who like to stick their heads in the sand.
I tried to explain other peoples outlook to you but alas you have your earplugs in. I can post my opinions on here within the forum rules. You must be the self assigned moderators.
You have your head the same place as your mate. See earlier post. You are the bitter twisted individuals who like to stick their heads in the sand.
I tried to explain other peoples outlook to you but alas you have your earplugs in. I can post my opinions on here within the forum rules. You must be the self assigned moderators.
And again you try with the victim approach, your not a victim, you are a whinger.
#134
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
BSG! Come on then, we're waiting to see you take up Cambells offer to start your own positive and constructive contributions to this sparkling and active forum.
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#135
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Re: HELP are New Zealand roads like this all the time ?
BSG! Come one then, we're waiting to see you take up Cambells offer to start your own positive and constructive contributions to this sparkling and active forum.
I have seen my partner answer a few questions on here, and I have read some great informative and supportive threads answeting questions I didnt even realise I had!
Its quite disturbing to see you and your mates acting like whinging forum bullies.