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Jan 10th 2013, 11:00 pm
#32
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Be careful with ece 20 hrs free, lots of nurserys around where I live in auckland charge 'extras' in addition to these hrs. Plus under threes in eastern bays looking at $65-80 per day.
Jan 10th 2013, 11:04 pm
#33
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But even Glasgow is long way away for most of the population of the UK.
In fact, lovely as it is (the scenery not necessarily the towns), the whole of the M8 corridor is miles away from most of the population of the UK. Even Scotland its self with its 5 and a bit million (??) is remote, in many ways - I think that's my overriding point; there are lovely spots all over the UK for sure, but due to a mixture of physical geography and population density that lead to longer travel times over shorter distances lovely spots are not, generally speaking, as accessible as they are in NZ.
Jan 11th 2013, 12:49 am
#34
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Nor does it qualify for any governmental help.
You can only obtain help once your a New Zealand resident. This was bought in place I believe under the Labour administration of H Clarke (think that's her name) once migration started booming in this country. Also, I believe the Australian government had a say as well, especially with the changes to birth in 2006.
Jan 11th 2013, 3:09 am
#35
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This is true I looked into yesterday after hearing yet another murder.
Seems NZ is ahead of UK in total crimes victims and 44% higher for rape, and higher for suicide in all ages
NZ was second and UK 3rd
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...-Kingdom/Crime
Seems NZ is ahead of UK in total crimes victims and 44% higher for rape, and higher for suicide in all ages
NZ was second and UK 3rd
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...-Kingdom/Crime
Jan 12th 2013, 5:13 pm
#36
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True enough, there is no doubt there are some vast beautiful areas of the UK - but even though North Somerset isn't all that far from Devon or Cornwall getting down there and back again on that 'Spine Road' or whatever they call it down there is not fun, even less fun with kids.
Also, the parts of Scotland that are beautiful are miles away from anywhere. Whilst most of New Zealand is remote, you don't have to go far even from the Auckland to get some scenery.
Just one quick example; for me there's nothing in any town or city in the UK that compares to popping over to Takapuna beach of an afternoon and looking out to Rangitoto.
Whilst a remote areas of NZ are spectacular in a lot of urban New Zealand you can be amongst beautiful scenery quickly and be home again for tea without the need for making a massive trip of it in terms of cost and time off work.
Most Aucklanders could head out to the Hillary Trail within 45 mins. There are few comparisions in the UK from getting from a town or city to do something like the Hillary Trail. There are many from the towns and cities in New Zealand.
Though, I did once play Rugby with a lad who told me this;
"When I got to New Zealand I was awestruck by the scenery. After a few months, I got bored of turning around another corner and saying - wow".
You have to laugh at that with a sense of agreement!!
PS Sorry to bleat on about Auckland, just using it as an example being the major city. I use that term 'major' loosely.
Also, the parts of Scotland that are beautiful are miles away from anywhere. Whilst most of New Zealand is remote, you don't have to go far even from the Auckland to get some scenery.
Just one quick example; for me there's nothing in any town or city in the UK that compares to popping over to Takapuna beach of an afternoon and looking out to Rangitoto.
Whilst a remote areas of NZ are spectacular in a lot of urban New Zealand you can be amongst beautiful scenery quickly and be home again for tea without the need for making a massive trip of it in terms of cost and time off work.
Most Aucklanders could head out to the Hillary Trail within 45 mins. There are few comparisions in the UK from getting from a town or city to do something like the Hillary Trail. There are many from the towns and cities in New Zealand.
Though, I did once play Rugby with a lad who told me this;
"When I got to New Zealand I was awestruck by the scenery. After a few months, I got bored of turning around another corner and saying - wow".
You have to laugh at that with a sense of agreement!!
PS Sorry to bleat on about Auckland, just using it as an example being the major city. I use that term 'major' loosely.
There is a simple statistic at work here, in the same land mass, there are 6 million people in New Zealand in the UK there are over 60 million (and rising much faster than NZ) - do the math as the yanks say, my husband and I are moving down in the next few months to be a proper grandma and grandpa to our new Kiwi Granddaughter - cannot wait!
Jan 12th 2013, 5:23 pm
#37
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Scotland has a population of 5.3 million and the scenery. Doesn't have the weather though!
Jan 13th 2013, 9:53 am
#38
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Hi all, I am at the very start of planning our move to New Zealand and know it will be a long road!
I am a Fire-Fighter with 8 years experience and my wife is is a manager at an events company with 7 years experience. Unfortunatley both of these (as far as I can tell) count for nothing when moving to NZ.
I am looking to learn a trade or get into IT but haven't decided which route to go down yet.
My nan was born and raised in NZ and always talked about how amazing it was. My wifes aunt and uncle moved to Christchurch last year and love it, and her parents are hoping to move out there soon as well.
Not sure where to go from here yet! Just need to decided what I want to train in and get learning!
Ben
I am a Fire-Fighter with 8 years experience and my wife is is a manager at an events company with 7 years experience. Unfortunatley both of these (as far as I can tell) count for nothing when moving to NZ.
I am looking to learn a trade or get into IT but haven't decided which route to go down yet.
My nan was born and raised in NZ and always talked about how amazing it was. My wifes aunt and uncle moved to Christchurch last year and love it, and her parents are hoping to move out there soon as well.
Not sure where to go from here yet! Just need to decided what I want to train in and get learning!
Ben
We came out for just two weeks as it was all the time I could get off work. What we saw was enough to confirm that this was where we wanted to be. Plenty of people will have done the same and decided against the move.
It's a huge thing to do. Don't do it without really doing your homework - that would be my best advice. This forum can help with information etc., but everyone's opinions are just that...their opinion. Yours may be the exact opposite once you experience the thing yourself.
Ultimately, you've gotta do it to know for definite, but doing your homework including a scouting visit will go a long way to helping you make the right choice.
Good luck.
Jan 13th 2013, 10:13 am
#39
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Hi all, I am at the very start of planning our move to New Zealand and know it will be a long road!
I am a Fire-Fighter with 8 years experience and my wife is is a manager at an events company with 7 years experience. Unfortunatley both of these (as far as I can tell) count for nothing when moving to NZ.
I am looking to learn a trade or get into IT but haven't decided which route to go down yet.
My nan was born and raised in NZ and always talked about how amazing it was. My wifes aunt and uncle moved to Christchurch last year and love it, and her parents are hoping to move out there soon as well.
Not sure where to go from here yet! Just need to decided what I want to train in and get learning!
Ben
I am a Fire-Fighter with 8 years experience and my wife is is a manager at an events company with 7 years experience. Unfortunatley both of these (as far as I can tell) count for nothing when moving to NZ.
I am looking to learn a trade or get into IT but haven't decided which route to go down yet.
My nan was born and raised in NZ and always talked about how amazing it was. My wifes aunt and uncle moved to Christchurch last year and love it, and her parents are hoping to move out there soon as well.
Not sure where to go from here yet! Just need to decided what I want to train in and get learning!
Ben
Jan 13th 2013, 10:21 am
#40
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According to that statistic, the 3 most crime ridden countries in the world are Australia, New Zealand and the UK. I dont think there would be many that agree with that. The anglo saxon attitude to reporting crime probably has a big part in that stat as it also shows that all3 countries have high confidence in police. If youre in a country with less confidence in police you would probably be less likely to report a crime.
Jan 13th 2013, 10:26 am
#41
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I've been around a bit and I find NZ to be violent. Its in the culture and the thing is people don't really take it seriously. Go to Stuff.co.nz. Every day there are reports of brutal murders, rapes or violent gang activity. I think that a lot of crime still goes unreported because there is, in the large NZ 'subculture', little respect for police. The problem is that the subculture is not very 'sub'.
Jan 14th 2013, 10:13 am
#42
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In 2010 I found myself with zero degrees of separation from drug dealing gang members without any effort on my part and I can tell you it did not feel at all comfortable. What bloody details are you looking for?
Jan 14th 2013, 10:35 am
#43
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All places are violent if we are unfortunate enough to be on the wrong end of it.
I just had a look at the Met Police crime stats for London. Looks terrible but most (thankfully) people are not affected by it.
Jan 14th 2013, 10:59 am
#44
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You made a sweeping statement that New Zealand is violent. I wondered what evidence you had, that was all.
All places are violent if we are unfortunate enough to be on the wrong end of it.
I just had a look at the Met Police crime stats for London. Looks terrible but most (thankfully) people are not affected by it.
All places are violent if we are unfortunate enough to be on the wrong end of it.
I just had a look at the Met Police crime stats for London. Looks terrible but most (thankfully) people are not affected by it.
I fell asleep on a night bus with my phone in my hand, when I woke up it was gone.
Quite funny when I look back, having a fell asleep I went beyond my stop and didn't have a clue where I was at 4am in the morning. Obivously I couldn't even use my phone to call someone to get advice!!
Jan 14th 2013, 11:06 am
#45
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swings in roundabouts I think, from 2003 to 2010 we were never really exposed to any violence in Tauranga, I did see a fight in downtown Tauranga once, my neighbour got burgled one Christmas, and that is about it.
However, back in London, just this past 2 years, living in a nice village near Heathrow, and the neighbours house was a marijuana house once Christmas, literally, a hot house of ganja, there are burglaries all the time in the village, the son in law hears domestic violence monthly from his neighbours, I can go up West Drayton on a Friday night and see a fight.
I know the figures are pretty poor for NZ, but I was never exposed to it in the same way as I am here, nor was my sister in Auckland, but then if you know the places to avoid in NZ you are ok, whereas in the UK, or London anyway, you can't really get away from it because of the population.
However, back in London, just this past 2 years, living in a nice village near Heathrow, and the neighbours house was a marijuana house once Christmas, literally, a hot house of ganja, there are burglaries all the time in the village, the son in law hears domestic violence monthly from his neighbours, I can go up West Drayton on a Friday night and see a fight.
I know the figures are pretty poor for NZ, but I was never exposed to it in the same way as I am here, nor was my sister in Auckland, but then if you know the places to avoid in NZ you are ok, whereas in the UK, or London anyway, you can't really get away from it because of the population.