Health care
#16
WAS bored stiff in USA
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: now in Ashburton nz yahoo
Posts: 81
Re: Health care
Thank you for your reassuring account of your personal journey through the NZ health care system. It seems I've been unnecessarily concerned . I suppose it might be different in some parts of the country but that would also be the case in UK where it's described as the Post code Lottery. I'm glad things are working out well for you and your husband and wish you a healthy future
#17
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Location: bottom of the world
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Re: Health care
Thank you for your reply. From reading other comments it seems I'm not the only one who finds the system unclear and would like to see it written in black and white in a document. It seems that it depends on where you live and who your GP is . The point I've tried to make is that the NZ Immigration website claims it's free or low cost, which is misleading for anyone thinking of moving here under the impression that it's similar to the NHS.
I've been in hospital twice in 11 years. One through A&E where I was seen within an hour, had tests done and seen first by a doctor and then a consultant before being allowed home later that day. The other was a serious event that saw me taken to hospital by ambulance and resulted in a hospital stay for the best part of a month. Both times I was given what I felt was better treatment than I had ever received from the NHS and neither time cost me a cent.
As with any health system anywhere in the world, money will buy you a place at the head of a queue and a bed in a room away us riff raff.
Last edited by Justcol; Nov 5th 2019 at 8:32 am.
#18
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Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 62
Re: Health care
How does waiting lists compare (non-private) between here and the NHS?
#19
Re: Health care
It is a similar pointing type of system.
Depends on what is required.
I posted the fact sheet up once somewhere. I will try to find the same again.
I 've had both very good and very bad care experiences with both countries health services. UK and NZ.
Depends on what is required.
I posted the fact sheet up once somewhere. I will try to find the same again.
I 've had both very good and very bad care experiences with both countries health services. UK and NZ.
#20
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Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 129
Re: Health care
Lucky you !!!
As we age we find that we need the services of the medical profession more often and that's when the costs start mounting.
Just some health systems are more affordable than others.
#21
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Re: Health care
Don't really want to get into an I've been sicker than you argument.
Sounds like your issue is misdiagnosis not cost or waiting times.
Sounds like your issue is misdiagnosis not cost or waiting times.
#22
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Joined: Mar 2008
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Re: Health care
I have mixed feelings over healthcare in NZ. Some practices here scare the living daylights out of me, potassium drips not going through a pump, lack of double-checking of controlled drugs being given to a patient, practioners doing stuff that they haven't trained to do eg. waterbirths.
My GP is excellent but it's $50 per visit and $25 for a repeat prescription. Then $5 per covered prescription item for 3 months. It all adds up, especially when you suddenly find your health failing.
The systems in place for linking up between GP's, hospitals, labs and screening/testing facilities aren't particularly well joined up in NZ - that's said from both a professional and personal perspective.
Like others, I've had great and poor service in both the UK and NZ, so the perfect healthcare system doesn't exist anywhere. I do worry about getting older here and how are going to manage as we get older from a healthcare perspective.
We donate to St.John's ambulance service, so that we get an ambulance free if we need it. Thankfully we've only needed one once each and once after an RTC, the latter was paid for by ACC.
ACC isn't fit for purpose for many a medical situation, as I and many others have found having been injured by surgical mesh. This left me & my OH self-funding a trip to Aussie for removal at a cost of @NZ$18k or leaving it in situ and me being wheel-chair bound and in immense pain. I know of other people with other conditions that have had similar problems with ACC.
It's taken me about 10 years to fully understand the health system in NZ, when it works it's good. It's when it doesn't it becomes a problem.
My GP is excellent but it's $50 per visit and $25 for a repeat prescription. Then $5 per covered prescription item for 3 months. It all adds up, especially when you suddenly find your health failing.
The systems in place for linking up between GP's, hospitals, labs and screening/testing facilities aren't particularly well joined up in NZ - that's said from both a professional and personal perspective.
Like others, I've had great and poor service in both the UK and NZ, so the perfect healthcare system doesn't exist anywhere. I do worry about getting older here and how are going to manage as we get older from a healthcare perspective.
We donate to St.John's ambulance service, so that we get an ambulance free if we need it. Thankfully we've only needed one once each and once after an RTC, the latter was paid for by ACC.
ACC isn't fit for purpose for many a medical situation, as I and many others have found having been injured by surgical mesh. This left me & my OH self-funding a trip to Aussie for removal at a cost of @NZ$18k or leaving it in situ and me being wheel-chair bound and in immense pain. I know of other people with other conditions that have had similar problems with ACC.
It's taken me about 10 years to fully understand the health system in NZ, when it works it's good. It's when it doesn't it becomes a problem.
#23
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Re: Health care
You are panicking over nothing.
NZ healthcare is FREE.
I read that Donald Trump isn't a racist, it doesn't make it true
You are trying to point out what isn't available in NZ without bothering to check facts or figures, and seem to have forgotten the many court cases that hit the news in the UK for people being denied access to drugs and treatments due to costs or waiting lists. Did you know NZ has a higher survival rate for major cancers than the UK, No, I thought not.....
I would not let the possibility that I may, or may not, develop a form of cancer at some unknown point in the future be a consideration for a potential move to another country, it's ridiculous, and if you do,I would suggest migrating isn't for you, there are simply far too many what if's for comfort
NZ healthcare is FREE.
I read that Donald Trump isn't a racist, it doesn't make it true
You are trying to point out what isn't available in NZ without bothering to check facts or figures, and seem to have forgotten the many court cases that hit the news in the UK for people being denied access to drugs and treatments due to costs or waiting lists. Did you know NZ has a higher survival rate for major cancers than the UK, No, I thought not.....
I would not let the possibility that I may, or may not, develop a form of cancer at some unknown point in the future be a consideration for a potential move to another country, it's ridiculous, and if you do,I would suggest migrating isn't for you, there are simply far too many what if's for comfort
#24
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Re: Health care
Although this thread is old, it seems to be a common thing that people judge a whole country when it comes to healthcare. 50$ to see a doctor is nothing and the system in NZ is still far better than other countries, although that's not the point. At the end of the day the person treating you is more important than the rating of a whole system. Just because the Premier League is rated the best league in the world doesn't mean that the player from Iceland is worse than any player in the Premier League. If people had a bad meal at a restaurant, would they automatically say that every restaurant in the country is the same?
#25
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Location: In a large village called Auckland
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Re: Health care
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...in-new-zealand
I don't know anything about funding for Diabetes sorry Antonia or how much that kind of stuff costs (if anything) but need to be aware that immigration likely will want medical reports etc from you as they won't approve a visa if there is an existing high cost medical condition anyway. Not sure how others have gone on with diabetes but will need medical officer to approve.
Last edited by Bo-Jangles; Apr 24th 2020 at 5:51 am.
#26
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Re: Health care
Me and my husband have been thinking about moving having been to NZ twice in the last 2 years. The problem is my husband is type 1 diabetic. In the UK he doesn't pay for any of his insulin his yearly blood tests and his eye scans and lazer treatment if required. It concerns me that it would cost too much for his health care and monthly prescription. For example just to check his blood in the UK it would cost close to £75 a month not including his insulin. So does NZ work on insurance or is it free? Thank you
https://www.diabetes.org.nz/travelling-to-new-zealand
Our son is also Type 1 however he's still under paediatric care which differs in frequency from adult care. We pay $5 per item per prescription up to a yearly cap of $120 (this can include other family members in your household) - once you've paid $120 the remaining prescriptions are free until the next financial year. You can only get up to 3 months worth of prescriptions at a time (and currently under Covid-19 only one month). I think blood tests might be free but you have to have a referral from your GP so be prepared to shell out for those visits. You're also charged for repeat prescriptions so as Bo-Jangles mentioned the costs can quickly add up.