GBP crisis...yawn
#1
GBP crisis...yawn
Its down to 2.13 again. Looks like its going well south for our NZ winter!!!! I am really getting spooked now and am tempted to convince Kate to take a hit on her UK money and get it over (earning some real interest) here to NZ now before it goes south of 2 to 1.
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
#2
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2.13 also getting seriously worried. We still need to wait for house sale to go through so cant do anything until then. Forecasts are not good either as we have so much debt
Dewb
Dewb
#3
Re: GBP crisis...yawn
Its down to 2.13 again. Looks like its going well south for our NZ winter!!!! I am really getting spooked now and am tempted to convince Kate to take a hit on her UK money and get it over (earning some real interest) here to NZ now before it goes south of 2 to 1.
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
#4
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I'm also tempted to take the hit Genesis.
I have a small inheritance coming from my late and lovely ole Dad and am looking to pay off the mortgage.
I have a small inheritance coming from my late and lovely ole Dad and am looking to pay off the mortgage.
#5
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For those leaving NZ to emigrate the UK or returning from an emigration gone wibble or simply to do an OE what a wonderful time??
I reckon if if the kiwi gets any stronger you will get kiwis actually realising they COULD afford a life in the Uk and NZ will gradually empty leaving just Kate, myself and the kids here and our 2 cats..all alone. Which would not be nice.
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Okay I know this sounds weird and a bit Chinese whisperish but... I REALLY do have a cousin working for one of the wealthiest men in the UK ( a very decent individual he is too ).
This chap believes that the UK will have a complete economic collapse before the end of 2010. He told my cuzzy that back in Dec 09.
He is also of the opinion that governments around the world are feeding out false optimistic info to the masses, in order to encourage people to keep spending and hopefully stave off a Depression. Conspiracy theories abound. But this man is no idiot.
Its not an easy time to be making financial decisions. I would spread any financial resources . Funds in different countries, shares in various countries, dont keep money in 1 bank etc. Spread risk.
This chap believes that the UK will have a complete economic collapse before the end of 2010. He told my cuzzy that back in Dec 09.
He is also of the opinion that governments around the world are feeding out false optimistic info to the masses, in order to encourage people to keep spending and hopefully stave off a Depression. Conspiracy theories abound. But this man is no idiot.
Its not an easy time to be making financial decisions. I would spread any financial resources . Funds in different countries, shares in various countries, dont keep money in 1 bank etc. Spread risk.
#7
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Okay I know this sounds weird and a bit Chinese whisperish but... I REALLY do have a cousin working for one of the wealthiest men in the UK ( a very decent individual he is too ).
This chap believes that the UK will have a complete economic collapse before the end of 2010. He told my cuzzy that back in Dec 09.
He is also of the opinion that governments around the world are feeding out false optimistic info to the masses, in order to encourage people to keep spending and hopefully stave off a Depression. Conspiracy theories abound. But this man is no idiot.
Its not an easy time to be making financial decisions. I would spread any financial resources . Funds in different countries, shares in various countries, dont keep money in 1 bank etc. Spread risk.
This chap believes that the UK will have a complete economic collapse before the end of 2010. He told my cuzzy that back in Dec 09.
He is also of the opinion that governments around the world are feeding out false optimistic info to the masses, in order to encourage people to keep spending and hopefully stave off a Depression. Conspiracy theories abound. But this man is no idiot.
Its not an easy time to be making financial decisions. I would spread any financial resources . Funds in different countries, shares in various countries, dont keep money in 1 bank etc. Spread risk.
#8
Re: GBP crisis...yawn
Its down to 2.13 again. Looks like its going well south for our NZ winter!!!! I am really getting spooked now and am tempted to convince Kate to take a hit on her UK money and get it over (earning some real interest) here to NZ now before it goes south of 2 to 1.
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
What do the better informed and more fiscally aware of you think?? After taking the loss with Hanover I am begining to think what's another $150k wiped off the kids inheritance?
#9
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I would love to meet Mr Brown shake his hand and tell him what a good job he has made of the economy, Unfortunatly i can,t I would just like to stab him
Harsh but fair i think,
Neil
Harsh but fair i think,
Neil
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Kate's just done a google and Visa said in Nov 2009 that the GBP would be back to C$2.50 come the next few months. So who do we believe? i can't see it spiking to that level in the next 12 months. We are all doomed. Unless of course you are doing the exchange the other way. In that case one is minted.
Last edited by Genesis; Mar 10th 2010 at 3:36 am.
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$2.11 !!!!! Thats the lowest Iv seen it!
#12
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What's to do? We don't need the money in NZ now BUT we can at best get a measly 3% over there whereas in NZ we could get almost double that and not have it tied up for yonks. 50k GBP at $2.10 is 105k. At $2.50 its 125k.
15k more if we could get $2.50 in say 1 year.
Pre tax (at a $2.1 exchange rate) 3% gives you $3150 a year. 6% would be $6300 a year. Point is it takes the $15k hit above down to just under $12k.
What would you do? Change some now and spread the risk or wait hope and pray the kiwi devalues in the next 3 months and the conservatives have a landslide victory OR just wait till hell freezes over?
15k more if we could get $2.50 in say 1 year.
Pre tax (at a $2.1 exchange rate) 3% gives you $3150 a year. 6% would be $6300 a year. Point is it takes the $15k hit above down to just under $12k.
What would you do? Change some now and spread the risk or wait hope and pray the kiwi devalues in the next 3 months and the conservatives have a landslide victory OR just wait till hell freezes over?
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Spreading the risk is definitely advisable, but taking a hit is always gonna hurt. If you can hang in till after the election in the UK, there is some possibility that the pound will strengthen.
Fingers crossed!
Fingers crossed!
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This isn´t about the strength of the Kiwi, its about the weakness of the pound, I know its all relative but whereas currencies can collapse overnight it generally takes a long time to build genuine strength. On that basis I would say the risk is heavily on the downside for the pound (relative to anything) for the next 12mths. The Kiwi seems stable so I don´t believe that will devalue anytime soon - they haven´t got the deficit problem that the UK has for instance AFAIK.
On the election, well there is a good chance that even if the Cons have a landslide in the election Big Dave just finds out how huge the deficit problem REALLY is and the UK still has to take the consequences whoever gets in power...and if hung then everyone will get the same info and be falling over themselves to blame the others for the problem....so I don´t see much upside coming immediately post-election TBH.
Moving GBP to NZ$ could easily offset the e/r hit with better growth providing that differential is maintained in the (better) interest rate you can achieve in NZ.
Any paper loss/difference over the e/rate movement in the past though really needs to be ignored as you can´t influence it. It is what changes will come over the next months and years you need to look at IMHO as there are decisions you can make which will affect the future growth of your funds from where they are now....
...and yes a hung Parliament gives the worst of all worlds IMHO....