NLSE

Hello!

I haven't been abroad now since 1996 (Since that time I have had a family and have owned 3 houses - so I’m not grumbling ) but I’m not that au fait with the latest air regulations.

I'm looking into finding some answers but wondered if anyone on here could help me please? We're flying with Malaysia Airlines.

I am a freelance photographer so have a fair bit of equipment (camera and lenses) in which goes into my backpack and is quite heavy. Will this use up my hand luggage quota? If yes, I'd have to sacrifice any hand luggage as I would want to have my camera with me.

Are children (ages 10 and 6) allowed to carry backpack hand luggage?

Is there any other important information you think I should be aware of when travelling/packing?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance for an help.

mitchuk

you can take camera stuff in your hand luggage ..it's not the weight it's the size of the bag that matters..
It needs to be the size of a small rucksack.
The kids can take a bag each

you are not allowed any liquid, and that includes make up ,lense cleaners etc..also be careful what food you take if you want to avoid the third degree when you get to your destination.

Check in about 3 hours before.

If your going on the 2200 flight it usually goes on time but the lunch time flight is usually delayed because of the aircraft towing late to stand..

also be aware the food on the malaysian is not the best but the entertainment is tops ...the staff are nice aswell..
also terminal 3 drop off is a complete shit so make sure you know where your going !!!

I work in heathrow and went on malaysia myself ...if your stopping over for 24 hours or less use the air transit hotel in Kuala Lumpa ...it's well worth it for a quick sleep and freshen up ..

NLSE

Bloody hell Mitch!

You aren't this accommodating on Rejects are you???

Thanks for your help - I should have phoned to ask you... I didn't think!

mitchuk

that you nic !!!!!!! should just call me for your info

your lucky i don't often read this forum ...just bored at work ..

jennifer45

Downloaded from Malaysian AL Website. It's now standard throughout all International air travel. HHope it helps.

Malaysia Authority is implementing the restriction on carriage of liquids,
aerosol and gels (LAG) into aircraft cabin for all international flights from
Malaysian Airports effective on 0001 Hrs, 21 May 2007.
Malaysia Airlines has prepared FAQ on the liquids, aerosol and gels (LAG)
for the benefits of the passengers and clients traveling on International
flights.
Date : 11 May 2007
Issued by : Security, Malaysia Airlines
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1. Who are affected by this new restriction on carriage of LAG?
The measures only apply to international flights out of Malaysian airports
including charters operations:
• passengers from KLIA, PEN, BKI, KCH and JB
• passengers traveling on connecting flights to international destinations.
2. What are the new LAG restrictions?
The restriction is to restrict carriage into the aircraft cabin, amount of liquids,
aerosols and gels through the airport security screening point. Any liquids,
aerosols or gels such as drinks, creams, perfumes, sprays, gels and toothpaste
must be in containers that do not have a capacity greater than 100
milliliters/grams, and all containers should fit comfortably in a transparent
resealable plastic bag of maximum capacity no greater than one liter, 20cm x
20cm or 25cm x 15cm), and only one bag per passenger.
This bag will be screened separately at the international screening point.
3. What type of liquids, aerosols and gels affected by the new measures?
Liquids, aerosols and gels include, but are not limited to:
• water and other drinks, soups, syrups, jams, stews, sauces and pastes;
• foods in sauces or containing a high liquid content;
• creams, lotions, cosmetics and oils;
• perfumes;
• sprays;
• gels including hair and shower gels;
• contents of pressurised containers, including shaving foam, other foam
and deodorants;
• pastes including toothpaste;
• liquid-solid mixtures;
• Makeup;
Some examples of makeup items
that must be in containers 100ml/g
or less and placed in your
resealable plastic bag:
Some examples of makeup
items that are not liquid
aerosols and gels and as such,
can be carried loosely in your
hand luggage regardless of
quantity:
Liquid Eyeliner
Mascara
Liquid Foundation
Creams, lotions and moisturisers
Facial Cleansing or Wet Wipes
Lip Gloss, Lipsticks and Liquid Lip
Liners
Compact Foundation and
Blush with the consistency of a
paste.
Pencil and Kohl Eyeliners
Powder Foundation
Powder Eye Shadow
Pencil Lip Liners
Powder Blush

• any item of similar consistency at room temperature.
This is not an exhaustive list and security screening staff shall have the final say
on what constitutes a LAG.
If you are unsure of whether an item is OK, you should pack it in your check-in
baggage.
4. Will containers larger than 100 millilitres/grams that contain 100
millilitres/grams of LAG or less be accepted?
No. Containers which have a total capacity greater than 100 millilitres/grams will
not be permitted through the screening point, even if they are only partially filled.
5. What about an empty container?
Completely empty containers is permitted to be carried through the screening
point.

6. Can I transfer my liquids, aerosols and gels into smaller containers?
Yes, LAG such as drinks, creams, perfumes, shampoo and toothpaste can be
transferred from larger containers to containers 100 millilitres/grams or less. This
is something you might wish to do at home.
However, restrictions on dangerous goods still apply. You should check with the
MAS tel : No. : 1-300-88-3000, if you have other queries on any of your items
might be considered a dangerous good.
7. What if my liquids, aerosols and gels are in grams, not millilitres?
One millilitre is very close to one gram. Accordingly when your liquids, aerosols
and gels are in grams, the container limit is 100grams.
8. Why do the containers have to be 100 millilitres/grams or less? Why do
they have to fit into a one litre bag?
By experiment, experts found that it is not possible to cause the catastrophic
failure of an aircraft with explosives made from a small amount of LAG. This is
why the amounts of these items must be restricted.
9. How many LAG bags can I carry into the cabin?
Each passenger is allowed only one, transparent, resealable plastic bag with a
volume no greater than one litre.
10. How many millilitres/grams will fit in a 1 litre bag?
By experiment, experts found that if you pack several containers of 100
millilitres/grams each into a plastic bag of one litre capacity, the total quantity of
liquids that could fit into the bag was in the range of 450-500 millilitres/grams.
11. Why use a transparent, re-sealable plastic bag?
The benefit of the transparent plastic bag is that makes it easy to display and
inspect the liquids you are carrying, while protecting your carry-on baggage
against leaks.
The re-sealable bags will help to minimise delays at the screening point.
12. Can I bring my own plastic bag?
Yes. You should be prepared packing your LAG at home before commencing
your trip to help minimized delays at the airport you want to take on board with
you. The best thing to do is to place all LAG in the check-in baggage. Make sure
that any bag you choose is transparent, plastic, resealable and has a volume no
greater than one litre.
Initially the resealable plastic bags will be provided at the airport, At later stage
you will need to purchase these bags please ensure that the sum of the four
sides does not exceed 80cm. For example a 20x20cm bag would be 20+ 20+
20+ 20 which equals 80cm. If the dimensions such as 19x21cm, 18x22cm,
30x10cm, 25x15cm also equal 80cm when you add up the four sides.
Clear, resealable plastic bags, such as sandwich and freezer bags, can be found
in most supermarkets. While the dimensions may vary between brands, any bag
where the sum of the four sides does not exceed 80cm, will have a volume of 1
litre and will be acceptable under the new regulations.
13. What if my bag has logos or pictures on it?
The resealable bags must be without it.
Clear resealable sandwich bags with a white stripe across the centre is
acceptable.
14. How can I minimise delays and ensure a smooth transition through
security screening?
To help avoid any delays it is best that you pack all your LAG before you get to
the airport. Make sure that each container you wish to take on board is no
greater than 100 millilitres/grams, and that all containers are packed comfortably
in a single, transparent, plastic, resealable bag of no more than one litre in total
volume.
15. What will I be expected to do when I reach the screening point?
Place the LAG resealable plastic bags in the security tray for inspection by the
Authority to ensure that you comply with the measures. Ensure it is clearly visible
to security screening staff. Any LAG larger than 100 millilitres/grams will need to
be placed in the disposable bins provided at the security check point.
Remove all bulky coats (business jackets not included) for x-ray.
You may also be asked to submit to a frisk search (pat down).
16. What will happen to items that have been surrendered?
All surrendered items are destroyed.

17. Why do I need to be frisk searched?
You may be subject to a frisk search when you progress through the security
screening point of an international airport to determine whether you are carrying
any LAG on your person. This will be done at random.
18. What does a frisk search involve?
If you are selected for a frisk search, the security screening officer will explain
that you have been randomly selected and will ask your permission to conduct
the search. You have the right to refuse to be frisk searched, but if you refuse
you will not be allowed to board the aircraft.
A frisk search is not designed to be intrusive, and will usually take no more than
30 seconds. The frisk search must be conducted by a security screening officer
who is the same sex as you and other airports may practice differently.
The frisk will involve the security screening officer running their hands over your
outer garments in order to ensure there are no items hidden on your person. If
the security screening officer discovers a hidden item, you will be required to
remove and surrender the item. You may also be subject to a second frisk
search.
You should be aware that if you deliberately attempt to hide LAG you may be
subject to a further investigation by the Authorities and different airport may have
different procedures.
You may request that the frisk search take place in a private room. In these
circumstances you will be accompanied by two security screening staff, one to
undertake the frisk search, and one to act as a witness.
If you have a medical device on your person, you may wish to inform the security
screening officer of this prior to the frisk search, although you are not required to
do so.
If you are unsure about any part of the frisk search process, you may ask the
security screening officer to explain to you.
19. What does random and continuous frisk search mean?
As you pass through the screening point, security screening staff may ask you to
submit to a frisk search. Security screening staff select passengers for a frisk
search at random.
Security screening staff do not target or profile particular passengers. They are
instructed to continuously undertake frisk searches, which means once they have
concluded one frisk search, they will select the very next person they see. If you
are selected, it means you were that person. It's not just passengers who are
selected; airport and airline staff may also be randomly selected.
20. Can I still take LAG in my hold baggage?
Yes. All liquids, aerosols and gels over 100 millilitres/grams in volume, in a
container larger than 100 millilitres/grams or not needed during the duration of
the flight can and should be packed in your hold luggage.
However, the restrictions on dangerous goods still apply.
21. Why cover all liquids?
Present-day screening technology cannot distinguish one liquid from another
quickly enough to allow for an efficient airport screening process. That is why the
new restrictions apply to all liquids except for those in quantities too small to
make effective explosive devices.
22. What are the exemptions?
Some exemptions apply for medications and baby products.
Exemptions for medicines:
Prescription medicine and prescribed medical devices are exempt from LAGs
restrictions.
Where the medication is non-prescription, you may take the amount required for
the flight.
You should determine the reasonable quantity of non-prescription medication
required for the duration of your flight, as it may be assessed by security
screening staff. Reasonable amounts include what is required for length of the
flight as well as possible delays and flight diversions.
If you have any prescription or non prescription medications, have them ready for
inspection. It is also advise to have any supporting documentation (ID cards,
letters from doctors etc) ready for inspection should it be required.
The kind of medications and medical devices exempt from these
measures?
Medicines may include the following:
• essential prescribed medicines, including angina spray;
• insulin;
• clotting factor (for haemophiliacs);
• contact lens solution, where the container capacity exceeds 100ml;
• inhaler (with spare canisters to be packed in checked baggage);
• essential non-prescribed medicines such as cough syrup; and
• children's medicines.
Medical devices and items may include the following:
• blood products;
• organs;
• human embryos;
• gel filled external breast prosthesis;
• personal supplemental oxygen;
• those items required and being used to regulate the temperature of
prescription medications and/or devices for example, ice packs or gel filled
heat packs.
Will I need to bring documentation with me from my doctor?
It is recommended that passengers carry supporting documentation (ID cards,
letters from doctors etc) regarding their medication needs. Security screening
staff may request presentation of supporting documentation to assist in
determining whether the medications you are carrying are exempt.
In addition, the name on the label of the prescription medication should match
the name on your boarding pass.
What about medication in solid form?
Any medications in solid form i.e. tablets, are not effected by these restrictions as
they are not liquid, aerosols or gels. You are free to carry these in your carry-on
baggage as normal.

Exemptions for baby products:
Where you are traveling with a baby, baby products in reasonable amounts
required for the flight are exempt from LAGs restrictions. Where the volume of
baby products is deemed excessive by security screening staff, it will not be
allowed through the screening point.
If you are carrying any baby products have them ready for inspection. It is also
reasonable for security screening staff to expect that you will be carrying a baby
with you. So if you're traveling in a large group or as a family, ensure that you
and your baby go through the security screening point together.
What types of baby products are exempt from the measures?
Baby products may include:
• baby milk;
• sterilised water;
• baby juice;
• baby food in liquid, gel or paste form; and
• wet wipes.
What is the definition of a Baby or Toddler?
There is no age where a child is no longer considered a baby or toddler. The final
decision is at the discretion of the security staff at the security screening point.
Some things to consider when making the decision as to whether your child is
still a baby:
• Is the child still being breastfed or drinking baby formula?
• Are they still eating processed baby food or baby powder as their main
meals?
• Are they traveling as a child, i.e. will they have their own seat and will they
receive a child's meal on board?
23. What if security screening staff do not accept that the medication/baby
product is a reasonable quantity?
Security screening staff have the final say regarding what items are allowed
through the screening point. If the security screening officer decides that you are
attempting to take unreasonable amounts of non-prescription medication or baby
products through the screening point, you may be asked to surrender some or all
of these products. If you fail to do so you will not be allowed to proceed through
the screening point and board the aircraft.
24. Can I still buy Duty Free when I travel?
Yes. It must be place in a Security temper=proof bags provided by the duty free
shops @ the airport (STEB) with proof of purchase, receipt place In the STEB.
If you are transiting through any other international airports, you may be
screened for liquids, aerosols and gels. You may be asked to surrender anything
over 100ml/g, including duty free. It is advisable that you check your transit
information with MAS before you leave Malaysia.
In addition, if you have any international transits within Malaysia for example,
PEN-KUL-HKG, you will be re-screened at the transit stop -KUL.

Some countries are introducing similar LAG restrictions to those being introduced
in worldwide. In these instances, you may be able to purchase any liquid, aerosol
or gel once you have gone through screening at the international airport. As the
number of countries is growing and the measures being introduced are not
always the same, it is best to check with the duty free shop or MAS or airlines
you are traveling to see if you can purchase items and take them with you at the
point of sale.
Where a country is not introducing similar measures, you can still purchase duty
free, however it must be delivered in a sealed bag with proof of purchase to your
departure gate. You can collect it at the departure gate and then take it on board.
You may also purchase liquid duty free items onboard an aircraft and at inbound
duty free stores at the final destination of your international flight.
25. Buying Duty Free @ off-airport
Purchases made at duty free outlets off airports are treated differently from those
made at airports. You should place them in your checked baggage.
26. If I forget to pack my LAG in my hold luggage, will I get another
chance?
Once you have arrived at the screening point all liquids, aerosols and gels that
are not in containers 100 millilitres/grams or less, and packed comfortably in a
single, sealed, transparent, resealable plastic bag with a volume no greater than
one litre will need to be surrendered. If your liquids, aerosols and gels are in
containers of 100 millilitres/grams or less, and you have access to an appropriate
bag, you will be able to pack them before proceeding through the screening
point. Some screening points may have bags available for you to use, however
you should not rely on bags being available.

27. What will happen if I don't comply with these measures?
You will not be able to board your flight unless your LAG comply with the new
measures.
If you deliberately attempt to avoid complying with these measures you may be
subject to a investigation by the Authority.
28. Will the new measures cause delays at airports?
The Airport authority, Government and MAS understands that the new rules will
affect airport security staff, airlines, airport retailers and passengers and
everybody are working hard to ensure the rules are fair and communicated
effectively to the traveling public.
Overseas experience suggests that once travelers are familiar with the
measures, delays are minimal.
29. Will our restrictions on LAG the same as other countries?
There are almost similar to those measures introduced in the United Kingdom,
the United States of America, the European Union, Canada, South Korea and a
number of other countries, and are also similar to security measures the
International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) recommend be introduced to
protect air travelers from the threat of liquid, aerosol and gel based explosives.
30. When will the measures take effect?
These enhanced security measures will be introduced on 21 May 2007. Any
person traveling from all Malaysian international airports after this date will be
required to comply.
31. What is the Government doing to communicate these new restrictions?
The Government has also consulted widely with industry to assist in a smooth
transition to the new measures and to minimise the impact on business and the
traveling public.
In addition, the authority is investing in additional posters, banners and media
communications to ensure a smooth process.
32. Why have these new measures been put in place?
On 9 August 2006, United Kingdom (UK) security services interrupted a terrorist
operation involving planned attacks against international aviation targets.
Intelligence indicated the group were planning to board an aircraft with concealed
materials that could be used to construct an explosive device.
Analysis of this plot revealed a threat to civil aviation with respect to liquid
explosives.
33. Why are the new measures being introduced in Malaysia ?
On 1 December 2006 the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
released recommended security control guidelines for screening LAG. These
security control guidelines recommend that member countries, of which Malaysia
is one, implement the measures outlined.
The Government has taken the decision to implement these measures from 21
May 2007 to allow industry and the traveling public time to prepare for the new
requirements.

34. Do these measures apply to domestic passengers?
No. The restrictions only apply to international flights.
However, occasionally domestic passengers travel on an international aircraft
while it's traveling within Malaysia (for example, AOR-KUL-SIN flight). In these
circumstances, the domestic passengers will board their aircraft at the
international terminal, and will be subject to international restrictions.
35. A caution about getting angry or argumentative at the security
screening point.
A security screening officer's decision about what items to allow through a
screening point is final. Arguing or getting angry with a security screening officer
will most likely result in the situation getting worse, not better, for you.
Passengers who become verbally or physically aggressive may find themselves
denied uplift by the airline.
In some circumstances you can be arrested and charged which may result in
significant fines, possible jail time, or both, if you are convicted of an offence.
Airlines may also ban you from flying with them. The Government takes aviation
security seriously, and people causing an unlawful disturbance at a screening
point can expect to be dealt with according to the law.
Security screening officers are not trying to make your travel experience difficult
or unpleasant. Their job is to ensure that aviation security requirements are met,
and that all members of the air traveling public are as secure as possible.



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Note you can take liquids but very small amounts and altogether musn't exceed 1lt. Do your children get the full 30kg hold baggage allowance?
If so they should get full cabin baggage allowance.

Maz

Good to see it looks like you're not going via the US. Unless you like being fingerprinted, having your digital photo taken, and being generally treated like a criminal even when just passing through a country's airports...