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Old Oct 5th 2006, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by mumomonty
'looking after the NZ citizens'? You're in for a surprise - no pensions here mate for one thing. Just come with your eyes open. The fact that there's 4 million sheep here is better than the hoards in the UK now though.
Thanks for the warning, i have heard about the pension 250 NZD per week , isn´t it ?, and you have to live in NZ for at least 10 years.

From what i have read, NZ government has fairly high taxes, but runs a budget surplus (quite rare), ie takes in more that it spends. With very low unemployment (little social security payments), slowly increasing population of rich migrants paying quite high fees, you in NZ should have good public services ? I know there are no agricultural subsidies, little public transport, so think maybe the problem in NZ is why does the government not reduce taxes ?

Do you feel the same about the NZ government as i do about the British government ? My comparison was with continental European countries that have very good public services, i guess NZ can only compare itself to OZ. But maybe i am thinking the grass is going to to be greener, too much

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Old Oct 5th 2006, 10:13 am
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Thanks for the warning, i have heard about the pension 250 NZD per week , isn´t it ?, and you have to live in NZ for at least 10 years.

From what i have read, NZ government has fairly high taxes, but runs a budget surplus (quite rare), ie takes in more that it spends. With very low unemployment (little social security payments), slowly increasing population of rich migrants paying quite high fees, you in NZ should have good public services ? I know there are no agricultural subsidies, little public transport, so think maybe the problem in NZ is why does the government not reduce taxes ?

Do you feel the same about the NZ government as i do about the British government ? My comparison was with continental European countries that have very good public services, i guess NZ can only compare itself to OZ. But maybe i am thinking the grass is going to to be greener, too much
I've no experience of any other health system other than the uk and here in nz, and they both seem very similar except that here you have to pay for dr's appointments for yourself and your children.
Loads of patients have just recently been thrown off waiting lists here to cut down on costs, me included .. I had been waiting to have a cyst removed from my lower eye lid and got a letter saying piss off basically so I got a pair of tweezers and a mirror and operated on myself.
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I've no experience of any other health system other than the uk and here in nz, and they both seem very similar except that here you have to pay for dr's appointments for yourself and your children.
Loads of patients have just recently been thrown off waiting lists here to cut down on costs, me included .. I had been waiting to have a cyst removed from my lower eye lid and got a letter saying piss off basically so I got a pair of tweezers and a mirror and operated on myself.
Aha living in NZ has got to you - you are now operating under the "kiwi do-it-yourself ingenuity"!
Just shows that you really did not need to be clogging up in the health system though, if your GP had have done that in the first place then you would not have had to have waited. Just look after it so that you don't get an infection :scared:
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Old Oct 5th 2006, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by sky
I've no experience of any other health system other than the uk and here in nz, and they both seem very similar except that here you have to pay for dr's appointments for yourself and your children.
Loads of patients have just recently been thrown off waiting lists here to cut down on costs, me included .. I had been waiting to have a cyst removed from my lower eye lid and got a letter saying piss off basically so I got a pair of tweezers and a mirror and operated on myself.
lardyl diagnoses possible Meibomian Gland Dysfunction .....I had a small procedure on one recently....
this is useful:
http://www.eye.com.ph/mgd.htm
so is:
http://www.eyebagcompany.com/
I have one of the eyebaga and it helps to shift the gunk that contributes to the cysts.....
also htis seems to be useful:
http://www.patient.co.uk/comments/23068693/
here endeth the consultation from Dr L......... :scared:
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Aha living in NZ has got to you - you are now operating under the "kiwi do-it-yourself ingenuity"!
Just shows that you really did not need to be clogging up in the health system though, if your GP had have done that in the first place then you would not have had to have waited. Just look after it so that you don't get an infection :scared:
I asked the dr to do it but he rang a specialist while I was sitting there and neither of them thought it was a good idea so that's why I ended up having a hospital appointment. It apparently had to be 'deroofed' or it would come back, anyways it's gone now and hasn't come back
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Originally Posted by lardyl
lardyl diagnoses possible Meibomian Gland Dysfunction .....I had a small procedure on one recently....
this is useful:
http://www.eye.com.ph/mgd.htm
so is:
http://www.eyebagcompany.com/
I have one of the eyebaga and it helps to shift the gunk that contributes to the cysts.....
also htis seems to be useful:
http://www.patient.co.uk/comments/23068693/
here endeth the consultation from Dr L......... :scared:
Useful links, I've saved them just in case I have any future probs thanks
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Originally Posted by Apple12
Aha living in NZ has got to you - you are now operating under the "kiwi do-it-yourself ingenuity"!
Just shows that you really did not need to be clogging up in the health system though, if your GP had have done that in the first place then you would not have had to have waited. Just look after it so that you don't get an infection :scared:
Well done. I've no faith whatsoever in them here. I think they were a tiny bit better in the UK - they're no more than agents here really (the GPs).
The waiting lists are just as long and the just shorten them to suit themselves and massage the figures. Same ol same ol
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Originally Posted by mumomonty
Well done. I've no faith whatsoever in them here. I think they were a tiny bit better in the UK - they're no more than agents here really (the GPs).
The waiting lists are just as long and the just shorten them to suit themselves and massage the figures. Same ol same ol
But in NZ, if you are paying the GPs, surely you get more than the 5 mins that you get in England ? Here in Belgium, the normal consultation is 15 minutes per person and most of the cost is reimbursed
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But in NZ, if you are paying the GPs, surely you get more than the 5 mins that you get in England ? Here in Belgium, the normal consultation is 15 minutes per person and most of the cost is reimbursed
I think you do yes, I still am used to uk ways though where you talk as fast as possible to tell the dr what's up with you and then are standing up and backing out of the door saying thank you very much two mins later.
Next time I go I'm going to make myself comfy and get my monies worth
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Originally Posted by brussels_sprout
But in NZ, if you are paying the GPs, surely you get more than the 5 mins that you get in England ? Here in Belgium, the normal consultation is 15 minutes per person and most of the cost is reimbursed
I've been about 3 times now for trivial stuff (strep throat etc). Each time I didn't feel at all rushed and it was easy to get an appointment and the staff were very nice. You can insure here for general visits to the doc. I just have the specialist cover (in case theyrefer you for tests) and in hospital cover (private).

In Australia, you claim back visits via your Medicare card. I went a couple of times there and they referred me for every test under the sun just in case and I claimed most of it back on Medicare. My OH also had a heart palpitation scare and the doc put him straight onto heart machine, made him wear a heart halter monitor type of thing and had scans. We claimed most of that back ( a few hundred bux) There was, luckily, nothing wrong. Here and in the UK I think that they'd make you wait until you'd seen someone and that could take months of worrying ! So in my experience, Australia is far better for medical (not that that's what you asked).
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Originally Posted by mumomonty
I've been about 3 times now for trivial stuff (strep throat etc). Each time I didn't feel at all rushed and it was easy to get an appointment and the staff were very nice. You can insure here for general visits to the doc. I just have the specialist cover (in case theyrefer you for tests) and in hospital cover (private).
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10405422

I see the budget deficit is getting so large that tax cuts may be on the cards
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Originally Posted by brussels_sprout
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10405422

I see the budget deficit is getting so large that tax cuts may be on the cards
yeah in 2008....
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To answer the original question, I did it because I foolishly thought I would get laid more often…………
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To answer the original question, I did it because I foolishly thought I would get laid more often…………

You mean that aint the case? Ah shisters. Russia it is then.
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You mean that aint the case? Ah shisters. Russia it is then.

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