Easing of travel requirements in 2022
#76
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
In terms of New Zealand border policy messaging is also unclear. The Prime Minister said one day that they would review the data that was available in January but her Health Minister said "Flyer beware" the next day which panicked travellers and airlines. So...wait and see I suppose.
Not to sure what part of that is difficult to understand 🤔
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Noting that daily infections are massively up.
There is usually a lag between infection and hospitalisation.
Then another lag between hospitalisation and death.
So we won't get a clear picture for about another three weeks.
At which point, if the news is bad, it will be obvious that we should have taken action now and not waited for the results to come in.
There is usually a lag between infection and hospitalisation.
Then another lag between hospitalisation and death.
So we won't get a clear picture for about another three weeks.
At which point, if the news is bad, it will be obvious that we should have taken action now and not waited for the results to come in.
#78
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Looks like they've made a few precautionary changes:
- Overseas travellers need to return a negative Covid-19 test within 48 hours of departure, rather than 72 hours - as was previously the rule.
- Overseas travellers need to do 10 days in MIQ, rather than seven.
- Everyone on an international flight with a positive case will be treated as a close contact.
#79
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Noting that daily infections are massively up.
There is usually a lag between infection and hospitalisation.
Then another lag between hospitalisation and death.
So we won't get a clear picture for about another three weeks.
At which point, if the news is bad, it will be obvious that we should have taken action now and not waited for the results to come in.
There is usually a lag between infection and hospitalisation.
Then another lag between hospitalisation and death.
So we won't get a clear picture for about another three weeks.
At which point, if the news is bad, it will be obvious that we should have taken action now and not waited for the results to come in.
The median delay (lag) between symptom onset and hospital admission varies between 1 and 6.7 days depending on age and whether the patient lives in a nursing home.
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The UK had its first reported Omicron case on the 27th of November, 2021 so I think we can now rule out the idea that hospitalisations aren't rising yet due to time elapse.
Last edited by Charismatic; Dec 21st 2021 at 10:34 am.
#80
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
I quite like the charts on www.coronavirus.data.gov.uk and whilst hospital visits did rise slightly in December its definitely leveled off recently. A clear decline in the death rates from November onwards, stats looking good so far
#81
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
I quite like the charts on www.coronavirus.data.gov.uk and whilst hospital visits did rise slightly in December its definitely leveled off recently. A clear decline in the death rates from November onwards, stats looking good so far
The only negative data point I've seen is on boosters, they just aren't providing additional protection for any duration unfortunately. It was worth a shot (pun intended!) but much as to say the booster campaign is largely going to be pointless. Getting your initial vaccination is still worthwhile however so if you've been living under a rock or had your head in the sand. Also remember in New Zealand we still have the far more dangerous Delta variant in its own protected ecosystem, ain't no Omicron coming to save us until international borders are reopened.
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
i know Aus—NZ is end of Feb I think but what about everyone else ? (Internationally)
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
As far as I'm aware it'll still be the end of February.
When borders do reopen most people will likely get Omicron, have a cold for five to ten days, then return to life as per normal. Given the viral trajectory in other countries it'll probably take about a month for cases to peak and a month to fall back. That would be early March to the end of April and that might not be the best time to travel to New Zealand as more restrictions are likely.
...In fact it might be a very good time for Kiwis to go on holiday for a couple of months somewhere else to avoid disruption.
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When borders do reopen most people will likely get Omicron, have a cold for five to ten days, then return to life as per normal. Given the viral trajectory in other countries it'll probably take about a month for cases to peak and a month to fall back. That would be early March to the end of April and that might not be the best time to travel to New Zealand as more restrictions are likely.
...In fact it might be a very good time for Kiwis to go on holiday for a couple of months somewhere else to avoid disruption.
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#86
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Looks like they've bottled it again but not specified a date. First half of this year sometime now.
#87
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Announcement about an announcement that will supersede previous announcements here. Basically MIQ will go in favour of home quarantine.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Announcement about an announcement that will supersede previous announcements here. Basically MIQ will go in favour of home quarantine.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
#89
Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Looks like they've bottled it again but not specified a date. First half of this year sometime now.
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Re: Easing of travel requirements in 2022
Announcement about an announcement that will supersede previous announcements here. Basically MIQ will go in favour of home quarantine.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
Although one suspects that in about eight weeks the spread of Omicron will be such that isolation itself will be defunct.
more media shizer.
200k cases a day bk home.
been double jabbed and booster.
still not wore a face mask all winter and belive it or not I'm still alive.
Isolation is getting scrapped in UK altogether and it's getting treated like a common cold (flu) virus as soon as possible.