Definition of Asian
I had a conversation with someone about this and thought people here might be interested:
In British English, the word "Asian" is often used to refer to those of South Asian origin, particularly Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Clarifying the Definition of Asian. 2005. 1 October 2006. The term generally excludes people of East Asian (such as Chinese, Korean or Japanese) or Southeast Asian origin; they are more likely to be defined by their country of origin, or may instead be grouped under the umbrella term "oriental". This is reflected in the "ethnic group" section of UK census forms and other government paperwork, which treat "Asian" and "Chinese" as separate. This usage contrasts with American English, Canadian English, New Zealand English and Australian English, in which "Asian" refers mainly to people with East Asian ancestry. Those interested in the history of Chinese immigration in NZ (since 1842) might like this link: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/chinese http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/p504atl.jpg That looks like quite a good website by the way. |
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This really surprised me when I first came here.
In my hometown of Oldham, there is a large Indian, Pakistan and Bangladesh community - known to everybody as the Asian community. As it states above, anybody from South East Asia would usually have been referred to as Oriental, which sounds like a throwback to the days of the British Empire. |
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Asian to me is Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi. I think in terms of Chinese, Korean & Japanese as being from the Far east, but I don't think of them in terms of oriental TBH. I see them in terms of their individual nationality.
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Never used the term "Asian" til we got here.
Now it just defines shit drivers. DLA........drives like an Asian. Policeman told me that! |
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I want to make it clear that I started this thread purely to be informative, so any subsequent racist comments are not the opinion of the OP.
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For me its ...
Asian = India/Pakistan. Oriental = China, Korea & Japan. |
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Originally Posted by Vitalstatistix
(Post 10233334)
Asian to me is Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi. I think in terms of Chinese, Korean & Japanese as being from the Far east, but I don't think of them in terms of oriental TBH. I see them in terms of their individual nationality.
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I am half "Oriental", which is much more preferable than being called "Chinky" which was the norm at times in the UK.
Here in NZ no one bats an eyelid. I kind of like Oriental, it has a air of being inscrutable and having a ingrained knowledge of Kung Fu. I drive a car/ute/motorbike pretty well in case anyone was wondering. |
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Originally Posted by Catchafire
(Post 10234499)
I am half "Oriental", which is much more preferable than being called "Chinky" which was the norm at times in the UK.
Here in NZ no one bats an eyelid. I kind of like Oriental, it has a air of being inscrutable and having a ingrained knowledge of Kung Fu. I drive a car/ute/motorbike pretty well in case anyone was wondering. |
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I am not sure what was the point of the OP however we never used the term Asian in the UK. We would have identified people according to where they came from.
I think the Kiwis use Asian as a cover all bases term to describe everyone who is neither, white, polynesian or black and whose first language is not English or European. It stumps them no-end when they are faced with someone, who on the face of it appears to be 'Asian' until they open their mouth and speak with polished cut-glass British or Scottish accents for example. :D Oriental became very un-PC; a bit like saying coloured. It puts me in mind of Alf Garnett and ignorant old people. |
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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles
(Post 10234601)
Oriental became very un-PC; a bit like saying coloured. It puts me in mind of Alf Garnett and ignorant old people. Since when did the word "Oriental" become un-PC? |
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Originally Posted by Robbie2010
(Post 10234663)
Utter Bollox!
Since when did the word "Oriental" become un-PC? |
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Originally Posted by Robbie2010
(Post 10234663)
Utter Bollox!
Since when did the word "Oriental" become un-PC? |
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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles
(Post 10234601)
I am not sure what was the point of the OP however we never used the term Asian in the UK. .
Maybe you didn't, but most in the UK people do. Hence the quote from Wiki in my post. |
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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
(Post 10234676)
About the same time you couldn't say black.:unsure:
It's perfectly acceptable to call someone 'black' in the UK. In fact it was a classification on the last census. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_...United_Kingdom |
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