COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Jun 27th 2005, 8:05 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by muppetking
Sorry but 150 is NOT going to find you somewhere 'decent' to live!
probably better for me to comment when i get over there, but have seen some decent places over the web in lower hutt but pics can be deceiving. so will have to see, if its too expensive can rent for a year whilst checking out other areas then move jobs if i dont get anything decent. also bear in mind im single and will not be having kids, so im not after a huge 3 or 4 bedroom house or anything OTT.
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
:scared:
Last edited by davepoole; Jun 27th 2005 at 8:08 am.
Jun 27th 2005, 8:18 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by Gill and Rob
Hello
Be careful, $150,000 doesn't buy a great deal, particularly not Wellington.
Gill
Be careful, $150,000 doesn't buy a great deal, particularly not Wellington.
Gill
Jun 27th 2005, 8:45 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by davepoole
probably better for me to comment when i get over there, but have seen some decent places over the web in lower hutt but pics can be deceiving. so will have to see, if its too expensive can rent for a year whilst checking out other areas then move jobs if i dont get anything decent. also bear in mind im single and will not be having kids, so im not after a huge 3 or 4 bedroom house or anything OTT.
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
:scared:
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
:scared: . Nights are horrible hey - poor you, I used to really hate them at home - do you do the 12 hour ones, I used to hate that 7pm start and then 4am in the morning was always a killer for me. Haven't done them for a long time but remember them well. AH well - off to bed for me I think and hopefully I'll get up on the right side and with life being a little better 
Jun 27th 2005, 11:07 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
[QUOTE=davepoole]probably better for me to comment when i get over there, but have seen some decent places over the web in lower hutt but pics can be deceiving. so will have to see, if its too expensive can rent for a year whilst checking out other areas then move jobs if i dont get anything decent. also bear in mind im single and will not be having kids, so im not after a huge 3 or 4 bedroom house or anything OTT.
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
I might be wrong here but I believe that Lower Hutt suffers from the very things you seem keen to escape. I confess to not having lived there but seem to remember it being in the media for all the wrong reasons a fair amount. I say again. 150k is not enough to buy a 'decent' house in a decent area. This is simply a fact based on having lived in Christchurch for 4 years.
Wellington I believe is even more expensive. Good luck to you all the same.
For information purposes I quote a recent media article.
Hutt police fear for their safety
07 April 2005
By CHALPAT SONTI
Lower Hutt police say their safety is at risk as an overworked and understaffed force is stretched to breaking point.
One Lower Hutt officer has suggested law and order in the area is "very much in the hands of criminals" as a result.
The officer said the situation was worse than the concerns raised about Wellington City police in The Dominion Post yesterday.
This was backed up by the Police Association's Wellington director, Stu Mills. Lower Hutt was the worst affected of the five Wellington police areas, he said, especially for staff stress.
The officer said that often not even the minimum of two patrol cars were on at night.
The area had a high incidence of priority one (urgent) 111 calls, not all of which police were able to attend.
Weekends were often "bedlam", as a large number of domestic violence calls left patrols tied up for hours.
"Budget savings" had led to sections being progressively reduced in size in past years. The CIB was not immune.
"When it comes to investigation of crime, many are not being looked at because something more serious comes along and they haven't got the staff.
"The reason we can reduce crime is that we are able to keep the pressure on, but at the moment it's very much in the hands of criminals, because we're unable to react to what's going on."
Compounding these problems were shifts stacked with new or inexperienced officers. Lower Hutt, which has 136 sworn staff, close to a full muster, was "drip fed" recruits straight out of police college, the officer said.
One recent weekend shift was made up of four staff – two with one week's experience, one with 18 months, and the other five years.
Two-thirds of another shift had been in the force less than three months. Another shift had no frontline staff because officers were required to escort prisoners or do other court tasks. "A lot are saying, `We've got to get out of here – there's got to be easier ways to make a living.' "
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
I might be wrong here but I believe that Lower Hutt suffers from the very things you seem keen to escape. I confess to not having lived there but seem to remember it being in the media for all the wrong reasons a fair amount. I say again. 150k is not enough to buy a 'decent' house in a decent area. This is simply a fact based on having lived in Christchurch for 4 years.
Wellington I believe is even more expensive. Good luck to you all the same.
For information purposes I quote a recent media article.
Hutt police fear for their safety
07 April 2005
By CHALPAT SONTI
Lower Hutt police say their safety is at risk as an overworked and understaffed force is stretched to breaking point.
One Lower Hutt officer has suggested law and order in the area is "very much in the hands of criminals" as a result.
The officer said the situation was worse than the concerns raised about Wellington City police in The Dominion Post yesterday.
This was backed up by the Police Association's Wellington director, Stu Mills. Lower Hutt was the worst affected of the five Wellington police areas, he said, especially for staff stress.
The officer said that often not even the minimum of two patrol cars were on at night.
The area had a high incidence of priority one (urgent) 111 calls, not all of which police were able to attend.
Weekends were often "bedlam", as a large number of domestic violence calls left patrols tied up for hours.
"Budget savings" had led to sections being progressively reduced in size in past years. The CIB was not immune.
"When it comes to investigation of crime, many are not being looked at because something more serious comes along and they haven't got the staff.
"The reason we can reduce crime is that we are able to keep the pressure on, but at the moment it's very much in the hands of criminals, because we're unable to react to what's going on."
Compounding these problems were shifts stacked with new or inexperienced officers. Lower Hutt, which has 136 sworn staff, close to a full muster, was "drip fed" recruits straight out of police college, the officer said.
One recent weekend shift was made up of four staff – two with one week's experience, one with 18 months, and the other five years.
Two-thirds of another shift had been in the force less than three months. Another shift had no frontline staff because officers were required to escort prisoners or do other court tasks. "A lot are saying, `We've got to get out of here – there's got to be easier ways to make a living.' "
Jun 27th 2005, 12:03 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
What tabloid did you dig that one out of...
Jun 27th 2005, 4:07 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
[QUOTE=muppetking, This is simply a fact based on having lived in Christchurch for 4 years. [[/QUOTE]
Hi muppetking - which part of Christchurch would you recommend? We expect to pay up to $250,000 for a house but would stretch further if this was unreasonable.
Hi muppetking - which part of Christchurch would you recommend? We expect to pay up to $250,000 for a house but would stretch further if this was unreasonable.
Jun 28th 2005, 1:45 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
[QUOTE=muppetking]
yeah sounds like the uk, sure our boys and girls in blue do a great job however we often have only a few coppers on duty. Weve been told in the event of a major incident, the type of thing like a nuclear spill or a disaster we will only have one police officer to secure the hospital.
As for the crime figuires would you say they are relative, in that the uk areas such as london parts of manchester for example have a high rate of serious crime that on the whole is now expected of these areas. So shootings, stabbings robbery are common place. In reflection to NZ could the crimes be of a less serious nature and far fewer than we already experience here in the uk. But the papers make big deals out of it, and im sure its a big deal for kiwis, but put a kiwi in the middle of an estate in a rough part of manchester would they see that things in NZ could be alot worse?
hope this makes sense will edit it later when brain is active if it doesnt,
thanks
dave
Originally Posted by davepoole
probably better for me to comment when i get over there, but have seen some decent places over the web in lower hutt but pics can be deceiving. so will have to see, if its too expensive can rent for a year whilst checking out other areas then move jobs if i dont get anything decent. also bear in mind im single and will not be having kids, so im not after a huge 3 or 4 bedroom house or anything OTT.
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
I might be wrong here but I believe that Lower Hutt suffers from the very things you seem keen to escape. I confess to not having lived there but seem to remember it being in the media for all the wrong reasons a fair amount. I say again. 150k is not enough to buy a 'decent' house in a decent area. This is simply a fact based on having lived in Christchurch for 4 years.
Wellington I believe is even more expensive. Good luck to you all the same.
For information purposes I quote a recent media article.
Hutt police fear for their safety
07 April 2005
By CHALPAT SONTI
Lower Hutt police say their safety is at risk as an overworked and understaffed force is stretched to breaking point.
One Lower Hutt officer has suggested law and order in the area is "very much in the hands of criminals" as a result.
The officer said the situation was worse than the concerns raised about Wellington City police in The Dominion Post yesterday.
This was backed up by the Police Association's Wellington director, Stu Mills. Lower Hutt was the worst affected of the five Wellington police areas, he said, especially for staff stress.
The officer said that often not even the minimum of two patrol cars were on at night.
The area had a high incidence of priority one (urgent) 111 calls, not all of which police were able to attend.
Weekends were often "bedlam", as a large number of domestic violence calls left patrols tied up for hours.
"Budget savings" had led to sections being progressively reduced in size in past years. The CIB was not immune.
"When it comes to investigation of crime, many are not being looked at because something more serious comes along and they haven't got the staff.
"The reason we can reduce crime is that we are able to keep the pressure on, but at the moment it's very much in the hands of criminals, because we're unable to react to what's going on."
Compounding these problems were shifts stacked with new or inexperienced officers. Lower Hutt, which has 136 sworn staff, close to a full muster, was "drip fed" recruits straight out of police college, the officer said.
One recent weekend shift was made up of four staff – two with one week's experience, one with 18 months, and the other five years.
Two-thirds of another shift had been in the force less than three months. Another shift had no frontline staff because officers were required to escort prisoners or do other court tasks. "A lot are saying, `We've got to get out of here – there's got to be easier ways to make a living.' "
also compared to dorset to get somewhere where i can get a mortgage for i would have to live in boscome an area well known for drugs misuse, and live in a bedsit its also where thefts and assaults are common, very rough indeed. so am hopeing loewr hutt has more to offer.
would be better if people on here added some examples or elaborated a little more, instead of making sweeping statements with UNNECESSARY use of capitals.
thanks, im grumpy as finished nights but still think people should leave more info in theyre posts.
I might be wrong here but I believe that Lower Hutt suffers from the very things you seem keen to escape. I confess to not having lived there but seem to remember it being in the media for all the wrong reasons a fair amount. I say again. 150k is not enough to buy a 'decent' house in a decent area. This is simply a fact based on having lived in Christchurch for 4 years.
Wellington I believe is even more expensive. Good luck to you all the same.
For information purposes I quote a recent media article.
Hutt police fear for their safety
07 April 2005
By CHALPAT SONTI
Lower Hutt police say their safety is at risk as an overworked and understaffed force is stretched to breaking point.
One Lower Hutt officer has suggested law and order in the area is "very much in the hands of criminals" as a result.
The officer said the situation was worse than the concerns raised about Wellington City police in The Dominion Post yesterday.
This was backed up by the Police Association's Wellington director, Stu Mills. Lower Hutt was the worst affected of the five Wellington police areas, he said, especially for staff stress.
The officer said that often not even the minimum of two patrol cars were on at night.
The area had a high incidence of priority one (urgent) 111 calls, not all of which police were able to attend.
Weekends were often "bedlam", as a large number of domestic violence calls left patrols tied up for hours.
"Budget savings" had led to sections being progressively reduced in size in past years. The CIB was not immune.
"When it comes to investigation of crime, many are not being looked at because something more serious comes along and they haven't got the staff.
"The reason we can reduce crime is that we are able to keep the pressure on, but at the moment it's very much in the hands of criminals, because we're unable to react to what's going on."
Compounding these problems were shifts stacked with new or inexperienced officers. Lower Hutt, which has 136 sworn staff, close to a full muster, was "drip fed" recruits straight out of police college, the officer said.
One recent weekend shift was made up of four staff – two with one week's experience, one with 18 months, and the other five years.
Two-thirds of another shift had been in the force less than three months. Another shift had no frontline staff because officers were required to escort prisoners or do other court tasks. "A lot are saying, `We've got to get out of here – there's got to be easier ways to make a living.' "
yeah sounds like the uk, sure our boys and girls in blue do a great job however we often have only a few coppers on duty. Weve been told in the event of a major incident, the type of thing like a nuclear spill or a disaster we will only have one police officer to secure the hospital.
As for the crime figuires would you say they are relative, in that the uk areas such as london parts of manchester for example have a high rate of serious crime that on the whole is now expected of these areas. So shootings, stabbings robbery are common place. In reflection to NZ could the crimes be of a less serious nature and far fewer than we already experience here in the uk. But the papers make big deals out of it, and im sure its a big deal for kiwis, but put a kiwi in the middle of an estate in a rough part of manchester would they see that things in NZ could be alot worse?
hope this makes sense will edit it later when brain is active if it doesnt,
thanks
dave
Jun 28th 2005, 3:45 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
ok
after a rethink and worked out with banks my wage with all extra unsocial hours payments which are always paid monthly, i can get a mortgage over 200000nzd
so thigs arnt that bad, but will probably check out the country first by renting, dont wanna settle too quickly
as for the crime stastics i thought lower hutt had some trendy expensive areas now such as petone,
well im committed for a year now so will see how it goes and will keep peeps upto date on what happens, same sh*t different day will be same sh*t different place whoo hoo how positive is that lol :scared:
after a rethink and worked out with banks my wage with all extra unsocial hours payments which are always paid monthly, i can get a mortgage over 200000nzd
so thigs arnt that bad, but will probably check out the country first by renting, dont wanna settle too quickly
as for the crime stastics i thought lower hutt had some trendy expensive areas now such as petone,
well im committed for a year now so will see how it goes and will keep peeps upto date on what happens, same sh*t different day will be same sh*t different place whoo hoo how positive is that lol :scared:
Jun 28th 2005, 3:49 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by Pinkie Pie
Had to find out Jan!!! The suspense was killing me!!! This is the extract from the NZIS operations manual which I think answers the question of "at which point are we safe from a points rise"!! I've highlighted the relevant section...
SM4.5 Approval of applications under the Skilled Migrant Category
See SM4.5 Effective 17/12/2003
SM4.5 Approval of applications under the Skilled Migrant Category
See SM4.5 Effective 17/12/2003
- Principal applicants* under the Skilled Migrant Category are assessed against:
- health, character and English language requirements; and employability and capacity building requirements; and
- settlement and contribution requirements.
- the principal applicant* and family members included in the application meet health and character, and English language requirements where required; and the principal applicant's* total points for employability and capacity building factors meets or exceeds the selection point at the date their Expression of Interest was selected from the Pool
Jun 28th 2005, 4:54 am
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Just to offset the sensationalist nonsense quoted above - some facts for you regarding crime:
DISTRICT RECORDED CRIME PER 10,000 POPULATION, BY AREA
Years ending 31 December
Area Description: Lower Hutt
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2002 1008.1
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2003 1030.5
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2004 1011.6
Total Crime 2003 Lower Hutt:
Recorded 10,156
Resolved 4833 (47.6%)
For the whole country, per 10,000 population: 1000.5
From http://www.police.govt.nz/service/st...n-20041231.pdf
For comparison:
England and Wales: Offences per 1000 population, 2003-4: 112.7 (1127 per 10,000)
London: offences per 1000 population 2003-4: 144.2 (1442 per 10,000)
From http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/to...3=0&sub=0&v=24
So... to summarise:
National offences per 10,000 population: NZ-1000.5 UK-1127
Lower Hutt offences per 10,000 pop: 1011.6
London offences per 10,000 pop: 1442
I couldn't find an urban area equivalent to Lower Hutt.
I guess it just proves there are scumbags all over the place!
DISTRICT RECORDED CRIME PER 10,000 POPULATION, BY AREA
Years ending 31 December
Area Description: Lower Hutt
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2002 1008.1
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2003 1030.5
Recorded per 10,000 popn 2004 1011.6
Total Crime 2003 Lower Hutt:
Recorded 10,156
Resolved 4833 (47.6%)
For the whole country, per 10,000 population: 1000.5
From http://www.police.govt.nz/service/st...n-20041231.pdf
For comparison:
England and Wales: Offences per 1000 population, 2003-4: 112.7 (1127 per 10,000)
London: offences per 1000 population 2003-4: 144.2 (1442 per 10,000)
From http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/to...3=0&sub=0&v=24
So... to summarise:
National offences per 10,000 population: NZ-1000.5 UK-1127
Lower Hutt offences per 10,000 pop: 1011.6
London offences per 10,000 pop: 1442
I couldn't find an urban area equivalent to Lower Hutt.
I guess it just proves there are scumbags all over the place!
Jun 28th 2005, 1:32 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by Kiwi26
Yes this is spot on, you are safe if you have been invited to apply as you are now out of the pool. Of course you have to prove the 105 points.
We should be able to prove our points as we have been totally up front and honest in our EOI...
Jun 28th 2005, 1:36 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by kiwijetpilot
I guess it just proves there are scumbags all over the place!
I know what you're saying though....
Jun 28th 2005, 7:03 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by bookemjano
Hi muppetking - which part of Christchurch would you recommend? We expect to pay up to $250,000 for a house but would stretch further if this was unreasonable.
If you could then up on the hills is good,or Fendalton, Merivale and that general area.
At ALL costs avoid Phillipstown, Richmond, Linwood, New Brighton to name a few!
Good luck in your search.
If I had an ideal it would be Cashmere.
Jun 28th 2005, 7:21 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Talking of mortgages and house prices. It seems that Wanganui in the North Island is quite cheap by comparisson to areas close by. As I am sure most will be aware, there is usually a reason for this. Does anyone have any info on Wanganui that may be useful.
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Jun 30th 2005, 1:12 pm
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Re: COULD YOU MANAGE ON $36000nzd In NEW ZEALAND WITH A YOUNG FAMILY?
Originally Posted by Sparkle2nite
Yes we have decided to go ahead and are going to submit this weekend! It all starts now! Will let you know when we have done the deed. Thanks for the advice.
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