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Stonesy93 Nov 14th 2019 8:54 am

Converting UK driving license to NZ
 
Hi,

Just wanted to know from someone who has converted their license recently from UK to NZ, what is the process? How straightforward is it? Does the NZTA (or the centre you hand your application in) contact the DVLA etc?

Any information would be hugely appreciated ๐Ÿ˜Š

jarv5116 Nov 14th 2019 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12763752)
Hi,

Just wanted to know from someone who has converted their license recently from UK to NZ, what is the process? How straightforward is it? Does the NZTA (or the centre you hand your application in) contact the DVLA etc?

Any information would be hugely appreciated ๐Ÿ˜Š

depends what categories you are changing over..
What categories do you have on your licence

Stonesy93 Nov 14th 2019 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by jarv5116 (Post 12763991)
depends what categories you are changing over..
What categories do you have on your licence

I have B and B1 and also my motorcycle license however I dont want to convert my motorcycle license over as I dont want to ride anymore.

jarv5116 Nov 14th 2019 7:53 pm

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It's pretty straight forward.
Take your british licence into the NZTA or AA which is the same as or DVLA and ask for NZ licence.
They just transfer a car licence straight over. think it cost 30 dollars.
Aw, you need todo a eye test in the AA or NZTA.
They have a template on there system which tells them the correct licences in NZ categories you are entitled too.

To be honest I wouldn't worry about doing the tests out here if you had todo them. if u have been driving in uk for long time.
All the lads at my work just do the test and pass. No lessons or anything. In a Auto.

cym Nov 15th 2019 2:54 am

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when I did mine it was a sratch card for each class and an eye test, which is a joke.
I think you were allowed 2 wrong answers before it became a fail.
These days I believe it's all done on the computer (but still at the AA or NZTA).

if you have a grandfather rights UK licence then hold on to it. I wish I kept mine going because now if I go back I have to resit my UK test, and have lost all the catagories that were on my 1977 licence - lol

I suggest a quick read of the road users manual over here, if only to realise how many kiwi drivers ought to read it!

Stonesy93 Nov 15th 2019 3:00 am

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I have been driving over here on my UK license as I have up until a year before I have to swap it over. I was just wondering if they ever contact the DVLA to check if a UK driver has points on their license or something like that?

BEVS Nov 15th 2019 4:47 am

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Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12764125)
I have been driving over here on my UK license as I have up until a year before I have to swap it over. I was just wondering if they ever contact the DVLA to check if a UK driver has points on their license or something like that?

Why?


Stonesy93 Nov 15th 2019 5:36 am

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Why? Because I'm not sure if I have and if I have will they carry over to here? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

MrsFychan Nov 15th 2019 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12764125)
I have been driving over here on my UK license as I have up until a year before I have to swap it over. I was just wondering if they ever contact the DVLA to check if a UK driver has points on their license or something like that?

you have to show your UK licence so they can access it, so if you do have points on it I'm sure they will find them so best to be honest.
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-lice...river-licence/

"Your application will then be sent to the NZ Transport Agency for your overseas driver licence to be assessed"

Justcol Nov 15th 2019 5:56 am

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Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12764045)
however I dont want to convert my motorcycle license over as I dont want to ride anymore.

UK points would count for nowt down here. I think as long as you're entitled to drive and not banned, it shouldn't cause any hassle

NZ has some of the best roads in the world with next to no traffic. Perfect for any type of motorcycle, from scooters to hyper tourers. It cost nowt to get the bike added to a NZ license, you might as well keep it, you never no, you might just have a change of heart one day

Stonesy93 Nov 15th 2019 7:39 am

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Thanks so much for your help

BEVS Nov 15th 2019 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 12764151)
UK points would count for nowt down here. I think as long as you're entitled to drive and not banned, it shouldn't cause any hassle

:ohmy:


NZ has some of the best roads in the world with next to no traffic. Perfect for any type of motorcycle, from scooters to hyper tourers.
You have really gotta be kidding me Col. Big time. Why would you even say that. ?
NZ has really the most dangerous NZ drivers and roads mostly due to their unawareness and the poor maintenance of the road surfaces. Visitors and overseas drivers are often targeted as an excuse for the dreadful driving here and the dreadful roads. Yet it is home grown.

If this person has a poor driving record then I would hope that would be picked up, and so would you surely?

Mate. If you know you have points on your UK license then do the right thing. You did not stick to the rules then own it.
It is not a game on the roads. It is a life.




Stonesy93 Nov 15th 2019 8:16 am

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What are you talking about mate, sorry I'm confused? My license is clean. I havent been in the UK for near 5 years. My question was to see if when swapping the license over does the equivalent of DVLA here contact the DVLA back in the UK as I know from some of my friends from other countries they don't do the that. I have nothing to hide, it was just mainly as my license is not in the best condition due to wear and tear so to say after having it for years.
thanks for all the help btw, much appreciated.

Justcol Nov 15th 2019 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12764168)
:
You have really gotta be kidding me Col. Big time. Why would you even say that. ?
NZ has really the most dangerous NZ drivers and roads mostly due to their unawareness and the poor maintenance of the road surfaces. Visitors and overseas drivers are often targeted as an excuse for the dreadful driving here and the dreadful roads. Yet it is home grown.

I take it you don't ride motorcycles Bev's. Of course there are some idiots on the road, as a biker that's something you live with every time you pull on your helmet. NZ is no more dangerous than many other countries.
โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹Bikers travel from all over the world to ride the roads in NZ. The surfaces are pretty good, they twist, turn and meander through stunning scenery and surroundings. They are a motorcyclists dream.

Sorry Stonesy93, I wasn't suggesting your license was dodgy, just generalising and pointing out that driving points on a UK license are not transferred to a NZ one. But if a person was banned in the UK they effectively have no license so it may cause issues here.

BEVS Nov 15th 2019 7:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 12764469)
I take it you don't ride motorcycles Bev's. Of course there are some idiots on the road, as a biker that's something you live with every time you pull on your helmet. NZ is no more dangerous than many other countries.
โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹Bikers travel from all over the world to ride the roads in NZ. The surfaces are pretty good, they twist, turn and meander through stunning scenery and surroundings. They are a motorcyclist dream.

Sorry OP I wasn't suggesting your license was dodgy, just generalising and pointing out that driving points on a UK license are not transferred to a NZ one. But if a person was banned in the UK they effectively have no license so it may cause issues here.

I've ridden motorbikes Col. Not here though. In the UK and around the Continent.
To be fair I mistook your post a bit. I was talking about overall standards here - drivers/roads - which are not good at all. You were talking motorcyclist risks.




BEVS Nov 15th 2019 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12764125)
I have been driving over here on my UK license as I have up until a year before I have to swap it over. I was just wondering if they ever contact the DVLA to check if a UK driver has points on their license or something like that?


Originally Posted by Stonesy93 (Post 12764173)
What are you talking about mate, sorry I'm confused? My license is clean.

I think the confusion was because you mentioned points on a license.

If the license is clean then nothing to worry about. You hand it in. They will do the checks. You do the theory test ( from memory) + eyesight. You get your NZ license.


Originally Posted by NZTA and AA
You need to make your application at a specialist overseas conversion site first, and sit your theory test. Your application will then be sent to the NZ Transport Agency for your overseas driver licence to be assessed. Weโ€™ll check to make sure your driver licence is authentic and hasnโ€™t been tampered with in any way.

There has been a general tightening up nationwide as NZ does have a downer on overseas drivers, many of whom are used to driving on the opposite side of the road to NZ and the UK. They are also not aware of the driving standards here and the need to be very aware and adopt defensive driving skills.

You'll be fine mate. My UK license was ancient - bit like me - I had no issues and neither did him indoors.


Stonesy93 Nov 15th 2019 9:22 pm

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Awesome, cheers mate. Thanks for the assistance!

jarv5116 Nov 16th 2019 7:14 am

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Na bevs you donโ€™t need todo a theory test for a car.
Just the eye test.
My wife just swapped her car licence over at the AA and just done an eye test.
I had todo a medical and a theory test for my class 5 to transfer over.

I also agree the roads are dangerous out here.

grant r Nov 16th 2019 3:23 pm

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Originally Posted by jarv5116 (Post 12764586)

I also agree the roads are dangerous out here.

I'm curious ๐Ÿค” in what way are they dangerous? I'm coming over in march for a holiday/recce and I'm wondering what I'm letting myself in for lol

Justcol Nov 16th 2019 7:09 pm

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Kiwis are pretty poor drivers in general. For years the driving test was two minutes round the block with a copper sat next to you. Only recently had the minimum driving age been raised from 15, and in some areas it wasn't uncommon to see a kid in school uniform leaving school in a badly maintained V8 or massive Ute. Add a huge influx of overseas driver's into the mix and it can get "interesting". Kiwis always blame foreigners for all the bad stuff, but it's mostly the homegrown drivers that cause the most issues. Driving to slow, then speeding up at the passing lanes is a kiwi favorite, or charging up behind you at silly speeds on the motorway, desperate to overtake, then when they do, swinging straight across all three lanes to just make it onto an off ramp.Another is the wandering Asian who can't seem to decide what lane to be in so will drive with a wheel in each at 20kmh under the limit. Kiwis love to tailgate. They will quite happily sit two feet off your back bumper, even on an empty road, regardless of the speed you are doing. Slow down to let them pass and they will then get irate that you are holding them up even though there might be two empty lanes for them to use to pass you. On the twisty country roads around me, Asians also have a habit of slowing to around 20 or 30 kmh (in a 100 zone) as they are not very confident drivers. The occasional one will forget we drive on the left, but I've only seen that a couple of times. In general things are usually incident free and I'd still prefer to drive here than in a big UK city

grant r Nov 16th 2019 7:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 12764782)
Kiwis are pretty poor drivers in general. For years the driving test was two minutes round the block with a copper sat next to you. Only recently had the minimum driving age been raised from 15, and in some areas it wasn't uncommon to see a kid in school uniform leaving school in a badly maintained V8 or massive Ute. Add a huge influx of overseas driver's into the mix and it can get "interesting". Kiwis always blame foreigners for all the bad stuff, but it's mostly the homegrown drivers that cause the most issues. Driving to slow, then speeding up at the passing lanes is a kiwi favorite, or charging up behind you at silly speeds on the motorway, desperate to overtake, then when they do, swinging straight across all three lanes to just make it onto an off ramp.Another is the wandering Asian who can't seem to decide what lane to be in so will drive with a wheel in each at 20kmh under the limit. Kiwis love to tailgate. They will quite happily sit two feet off your back bumper, even on an empty road, regardless of the speed you are doing. Slow down to let them pass and they will then get irate that you are holding them up even though there might be two empty lanes for them to use to pass you. On the twisty country roads around me, Asians also have a habit of slowing to around 20 or 30 kmh (in a 100 zone) as they are not very confident drivers. The occasional one will forget we drive on the left, but I've only seen that a couple of times. In general things are usually incident free and I'd still prefer to drive here than in a big UK city

To be honest it doesn't sound much different than the UK after the influx of our European friends ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

escapedtonz Nov 16th 2019 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by grant r (Post 12764710)
I'm curious ๐Ÿค” in what way are they dangerous? I'm coming over in march for a holiday/recce and I'm wondering what I'm letting myself in for lol

They aren't dangerous. They are just different. State Highways are mostly single carriageway with the odd passing lane and can be a mixture of awesome open roads through open countryside or native bush to 25kph hairpin winding roads where you struggle to get any speed up before brake brake brake although there'll always be some local passing you at double the speed in a shitbox Mitsi legacy, on the opposite side of the road crossing the yellow line with 4 kids in the car and none of them in any child restraint :blink:.
What makes driving dangerous here is the incompetent drivers on the roads. Absolutely no driving skills whatsoever. Don't seem to take a blind bit of notice of any speed limits or road markings. They cut corners, regularly use the wrong side of the road as they haven't learned the art of turning the steering wheel.
I'm ranting a bit now :p seems years of driving 220km return commute has that effect.

BEVS Nov 16th 2019 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by jarv5116 (Post 12764586)
Na bevs you donโ€™t need todo a theory test for a car.
Just the eye test.



How odd. We had to do the theory test and so have folks we know here. MrBEVS is dyslexic so we had to arrange an independent reader . Mind you that was 15 years ago now .
Yes. I can see from the AA website now the UK folks should be exempt.
Thanks for the correction jarv.


Originally Posted by AA

Approved countries

Drivers who have held a full drivers licence for two years or more from these countries can convert their driver licence to a New Zealand licence without taking a theory or practical test: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong*, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The United Kingdom, United States of America.If your licence was issued in one of these countries, complete the application form and take it along with the required ID to your nearest authorised Overseas conversion driver licensing agent.

*Hong Kong is recognised as a Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China.


escapedtonz Nov 16th 2019 7:24 pm

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Converting the UK license is easy.
I used the local AA office.
Turn up with UK license, complete the application form, get in the queue, hand over the application form, UK license and payment (around $60 per person I think) at the counter, take a simple eye test at the counter, they'll then give you a temporary slip with your driving classes on (make sure they've transferred them across correctly - they missed out my motorcycle entitlement and had to do it all again when I questioned it) and that's it. They'll give you your UK license back, the temporary license slip and a receipt. NZ license takes around 2 weeks to arrive in the post.
Your UK license will naturally expire and if you're still in NZ when that happens you cannot renew as you have to be resident in the UK to maintain it.

A4Ron Nov 25th 2019 10:18 pm

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UK is a better safer place to drive, with a modern up-to-date road network. But New Zealand has other benefits.

The problem with the roads here is the road infrastructure is the same as the UK was in the 1950s, but now with increasing traffic volumes... As mentioned above, the vast majority of NZ's motorways/'state highways' are single-carriageway with the odd passing lane every few kms - but without central barriers to separate oncoming traffic! Central barriers and proper tarmac are considered luxuries here by NZTA - very much a 'nice to have'. And when the NZTA do bother to pull their finger out with a central barrier they install wire barriers (which are banned in Europe) and can prove fatal in crashes with bikers - they call them cheese-graters. A poor fellow in Christchurch last Christmas got decapitated by the wire barrier on the Southern Motorway in his BMW Z3 convertible. If i was his family I would've taken NZTA to court.

Vast majority of road surfaces here are chip-seal, which was orginally designed for extremely low traffic volumes many years ago. The downsides are that it wears out quicker than proper asphalt/tarmac, breaks up in heavy rain with heavy vehicle use on it and offers less grip than tarmac too. The only upside is that it's cheaper, which is why NZTA persist with it... Long-term, tarmac would be a cheaper and better solution on the main roads and motorways. However, when it comes to updating the road infrastructure to modern levels, the government & NZTA do a cost-benefit analysis and conclude the costs too expensive compared to saving people's lives and reducing the road toll.

Charismatic Nov 25th 2019 10:58 pm

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โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹New Zealand:
Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants per year: 7.8
Road fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles: 10

United Kingdom:
Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants per year: 3.1
Road fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles: 5.7

You could argue New Zealands roads are more varied but equally the UK typically has more inclement weather and more traffic due to its population density.

โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹In my view it comes down to driver training and testing issue. It's insufficient to tell people to do their best, they need to know what to do and then to do their best. If New Zealand had a motto it'd be "She'll be right" but, unfortunately, driving standards is one of those areas where indifference to quality results in a very high error rate. Sometimes those errors cause deaths.

Clappy Nov 26th 2019 4:09 am

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Originally Posted by grant r (Post 12764710)
I'm curious ํ พํด” in what way are they dangerous? I'm coming over in march for a holiday/recce and I'm wondering what I'm letting myself in for lol

The roads are OK. It is the people that are a liability. That extends to more subjects than just driving.

grant r Nov 26th 2019 8:38 am

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Originally Posted by Clappy (Post 12769682)
The roads are OK. It is the people that are a liability. That extends to more subjects than just driving.

Sounds just like the UK! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

A4Ron Nov 26th 2019 7:41 pm

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They definitely need to improve driver education and make the driving test harder. But they also need to get the roads up to a modern OECD standard. The vast majority of the road death stats are head-on collisions on the 'state highway' network and poor road design at rural intersections. A proper motorway network and increased driving standards would significantly reduce the road toll.

I drove all over the UK last year for three weeks and it was delightful in comparison and much less stressful, even including some traffic.

BEVS Nov 26th 2019 7:47 pm

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Originally Posted by grant r (Post 12769768)
Sounds just like the UK!

It really isn't. :unsure:

Just adopt defensive driving strategies. Remember that insurance is not compulsory here. That most are not taught how to drive. That the road signage means nothin' . Then you'll be right.




Genesis Nov 27th 2019 2:04 am

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Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 12769622)
โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹New Zealand:
Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants per year: 7.8
Road fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles: 10

United Kingdom:
Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants per year: 3.1
Road fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles: 5.7

You could argue New Zealands roads are more varied but equally the UK typically has more inclement weather and more traffic due to its population density.

โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹In my view it comes down to driver training and testing issue. It's insufficient to tell people to do their best, they need to know what to do and then to do their best. If New Zealand had a motto it'd be "She'll be right" but, unfortunately, driving standards is one of those areas where indifference to quality results in a very high error rate. Sometimes those errors cause deaths.

NZ roads are not dangerous, alas many of the drivers and riders are. Admittedly some very precipitous roads have no barriers, that could be deemed โ€˜a dangerโ€™. But generally a road will never kill you. I have been driving a car 45 years and a had a motor bike license since 1997. The only thing that will kill you is your stupidity, someone elseโ€™s or a mistake or misjudgement you or someone else makes.

I agree with Justcol and think that NZ roads are amazing for bike riding and to the original OP....I felt like you but got it changed over when I got here in 2005 and when my wife did one in 2013 I bought another motor bike!! If you do not do the immediate switch over you have to start all over again....... after a year I think it is...that is the time they give you to convert your foreign license.

Charismatic Nov 27th 2019 3:30 am

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Forgot to plug that if you do want to do a little road trip this summer we have a thread here with some recommended drives by stuff.co.nz and forum users. When you leave the settlements behind New Zealands natural scenery is abundance and absolutely spectacular.

A4Ron Nov 27th 2019 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 12770132)


NZ roads are not dangerous, alas many of the drivers and riders are. Admittedly some very precipitous roads have no barriers, that could be deemed โ€˜a dangerโ€™. But generally a road will never kill you. I have been driving a car 45 years and a had a motor bike license since 1997. The only thing that will kill you is your stupidity, someone elseโ€™s or a mistake or misjudgement you or someone else makes.

I agree with Justcol and think that NZ roads are amazing for bike riding and to the original OP....I felt like you but got it changed over when I got here in 2005 and when my wife did one in 2013 I bought another motor bike!! If you do not do the immediate switch over you have to start all over again....... after a year I think it is...that is the time they give you to convert your foreign license.

The problem is on State Highway 1 etc when a truck or large vehicle has a tyre-blow-out and veers into oncoming traffic with 190kmh closing distance because there's no infrastructure to separate vehicles travelling in opposite directions....
Having 190kmh-200kmh closing distances with only 12 inches of open air separating traffic is lunacy and very ignorant of NZTA to be fair

Clappy Nov 27th 2019 5:23 am

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I would suggest that anybody with complaints about the construction of roads in this country today should take a drive along the 309 road that runs across the Coromandel or try the roads around Mangawhai Heads. See what all the roads here used to be like and then the current ones don't look so bad.

Genesis Nov 27th 2019 5:46 am

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Originally Posted by A4Ron (Post 12770148)
The problem is on State Highway 1 etc when a truck or large vehicle has a tyre-blow-out and veers into oncoming traffic with 190kmh closing distance because there's no infrastructure to separate vehicles travelling in opposite directions....
Having 190kmh-200kmh closing distances with only 12 inches of open air separating traffic is lunacy and very ignorant of NZTA to be fair

Indeed, very valid point. But even median strips get taken out in some high impact collisions where they are present. Shit happens. The real problem in this country is the aggressive, uncourteous and uncompromising nature of too many drivers. Driving to be both safe and effective needs to have an air of symbiosis about it. Too many drivers here think the road is there for just their convenience and they will use it as they see fit.

grant r Nov 27th 2019 6:52 am

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12770032)
It really isn't. :unsure:

Just adopt defensive driving strategies. Remember that insurance is not compulsory here. That most are not taught how to drive. That the road signage means nothin' . Then you'll be right.

Insurance is not compulsory ๐Ÿ˜ฎ wow I did not know that

BEVS Nov 27th 2019 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by grant r (Post 12770200)
Insurance is not compulsory ๐Ÿ˜ฎ wow I did not know that

No. It isn't. So all on you.
Look. Just be sensible. Adopt defensive driving tactics and keep aware. .

escapedtonz Nov 27th 2019 5:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Clappy (Post 12770182)
I would suggest that anybody with complaints about the construction of roads in this country today should take a drive along the 309 road that runs across the Coromandel or try the roads around Mangawhai Heads. See what all the roads here used to be like and then the current ones don't look so bad.

Ha Ha! The 309. Best road in NZ. Mrs won't let me drive on that road ever again :rofl:
I remember being in Paraparaumu once on the motorbike and the rest of the family doing something in Upper Hutt so had this crazy idea of meeting up for lunch and me taking the short cut (44 KM's) through the Akatarawa's.........wow, now that was a crazy road. I suppose at least it was sealed!!!


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