Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
Sep 8th 2013, 12:24 pm
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Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
Just a few points from the posts above:
You wont be taxed at 33% on the whole of the salary. There is no personal allowance in NZ but there is a sliding scale of taxation rates.
If you apply for residency under the Skilled Migrant Category you can only claim points if your occupation/ work experience is on the Long Term Skills Shortage List. You cannot claim points for being on the Canterbury SSL.
This is the only visa you can apply for which does not require a job offer in advance and it is an application for residency. However many people require a job offer to get their points total to a level where selection is guaranteed.
The other visas available are [briefly!]:
Work To Residence: you are issued a work visa for 30months which you can convert to residency after working for two years. The job must be for an accredited employer or you must qualify under the LTSSL.
Work Visa: issued for varying amounts of time. If you wish to apply for residency later on then you need to go for the SMC or WTR. Your employer will need to prove no NZers can do the job unless you are covered under ANY of the skills shortage lists.
Just one more thing, don't let an immigration agent persuade you that you need their services. You can apply for a visa yourself and most of us have done so. Agents cost thousands of pounds and it really isn't hard to do! We'll offer help if you get stuck.
As for me, I have no regrets about the move to NZ. It works for some but doesn't for others. My reasons for coming over were slightly different to most, there was no great desire to move to NZ or to leave the UK. As a result I had no great expectations or push to leave where I was in the UK.
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Civil engineers are on the LTSSL and the CSSL. BE is not letting me do links though
. Your qualifications will need to fit into column 4 of the LTSSL to qualify. It means that you can apply for any of the above visas.
You wont be taxed at 33% on the whole of the salary. There is no personal allowance in NZ but there is a sliding scale of taxation rates.
If you apply for residency under the Skilled Migrant Category you can only claim points if your occupation/ work experience is on the Long Term Skills Shortage List. You cannot claim points for being on the Canterbury SSL.
This is the only visa you can apply for which does not require a job offer in advance and it is an application for residency. However many people require a job offer to get their points total to a level where selection is guaranteed.
The other visas available are [briefly!]:
Work To Residence: you are issued a work visa for 30months which you can convert to residency after working for two years. The job must be for an accredited employer or you must qualify under the LTSSL.
Work Visa: issued for varying amounts of time. If you wish to apply for residency later on then you need to go for the SMC or WTR. Your employer will need to prove no NZers can do the job unless you are covered under ANY of the skills shortage lists.
Just one more thing, don't let an immigration agent persuade you that you need their services. You can apply for a visa yourself and most of us have done so. Agents cost thousands of pounds and it really isn't hard to do! We'll offer help if you get stuck.
As for me, I have no regrets about the move to NZ. It works for some but doesn't for others. My reasons for coming over were slightly different to most, there was no great desire to move to NZ or to leave the UK. As a result I had no great expectations or push to leave where I was in the UK.
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Civil engineers are on the LTSSL and the CSSL. BE is not letting me do links though
. Your qualifications will need to fit into column 4 of the LTSSL to qualify. It means that you can apply for any of the above visas.sorry to interrupt this conversation but on reading the message from Persephone there is a few things i would like to have answered..please.!!
I am a 47 year old qualified chef from Uk seriously considering a move to NZ, My job is on the LTSSL and i am thinking of applying for a skiilled migratory visa. Have been in contact with emigration agencies who advise me to use them..(they would wouldn't they) ! as to do it on my own would be difficult, i have below the 100 points required but the balance is made up of my work experience in an area of absolute skills/future growth area despite having no job offer..Being a chef the jobs available in NZ need me to start within a month or so if not sooner which is shorter than the time taken to get a visa...The agency advise me to use them as i would have more back up and appear more serious to move as going alone may not have the same effect..So in light of all this do you feel best to use the agency or try going alone?
The average wage i have researched for me would be @ 40-45k..i would be making the move alone and don't really fancy sharing so would this wage be sufficient to live on ?..bearing in mind i live at moment on Jersey paying @ 355NZ$ / week (equilavent to £180/week) for a small 1 bed flat.
hope you can shed some light on this..!
Rod
Sep 8th 2013, 4:28 pm
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another question i would like to ask..is it possible to obtain a work to residence visa without a job offer but be searching for one..if i was to get a job from uk to work in nz would authorities allow me to come across on that basis and complete the visa process when in nz?
Sep 8th 2013, 9:13 pm
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Hi
sorry to interrupt this conversation but on reading the message from Persephone there is a few things i would like to have answered..please.!!
I am a 47 year old qualified chef from Uk seriously considering a move to NZ, My job is on the LTSSL and i am thinking of applying for a skiilled migratory visa. Have been in contact with emigration agencies who advise me to use them..(they would wouldn't they) ! as to do it on my own would be difficult, i have below the 100 points required but the balance is made up of my work experience in an area of absolute skills/future growth area despite having no job offer..Being a chef the jobs available in NZ need me to start within a month or so if not sooner which is shorter than the time taken to get a visa...The agency advise me to use them as i would have more back up and appear more serious to move as going alone may not have the same effect..So in light of all this do you feel best to use the agency or try going alone?
The average wage i have researched for me would be @ 40-45k..i would be making the move alone and don't really fancy sharing so would this wage be sufficient to live on ?..bearing in mind i live at moment on Jersey paying @ 355NZ$ / week (equilavent to £180/week) for a small 1 bed flat.
hope you can shed some light on this..!
Rod
sorry to interrupt this conversation but on reading the message from Persephone there is a few things i would like to have answered..please.!!
I am a 47 year old qualified chef from Uk seriously considering a move to NZ, My job is on the LTSSL and i am thinking of applying for a skiilled migratory visa. Have been in contact with emigration agencies who advise me to use them..(they would wouldn't they) ! as to do it on my own would be difficult, i have below the 100 points required but the balance is made up of my work experience in an area of absolute skills/future growth area despite having no job offer..Being a chef the jobs available in NZ need me to start within a month or so if not sooner which is shorter than the time taken to get a visa...The agency advise me to use them as i would have more back up and appear more serious to move as going alone may not have the same effect..So in light of all this do you feel best to use the agency or try going alone?
The average wage i have researched for me would be @ 40-45k..i would be making the move alone and don't really fancy sharing so would this wage be sufficient to live on ?..bearing in mind i live at moment on Jersey paying @ 355NZ$ / week (equilavent to £180/week) for a small 1 bed flat.
hope you can shed some light on this..!
Rod
Then look for employment..(employers will take you seriously being here), get your job offer & with the employers support (which you will need) get your documents completed direct at the immigration office to organise the work permits with them...I got a work permit then submitted a EOI for residence....it was granted just 3 weeks later....so it can be done without using an agent....
That's what we did, that was 8years ago and we had 3 little kids in tow...so it should be easier for you on your own.....
Good luck with your adventure!
Sep 8th 2013, 10:07 pm
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if i was to get a job from uk to work in nz would authorities allow me to come across on that basis and complete the visa process when in nz?
That isn't what you would do. You would apply for a work visa once you had the official job offer in your mitt. That would allow you to enter NZ for the purpose of living and working here and also allows you to start the work for your employer.
Your job offer would give a start date. That would be on your application. To speed up the process you could elect to take the application in person to NZ house in London.
To ensure your post & question is not lost in this thread, I will move it to a thread of it's own for you.
Sep 8th 2013, 10:11 pm
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Re: Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
Although not strictly kosher, you could look to enter NZ for a holiday and look for work whilst here. You would then apply for your work permit onshore. From there , if you had enough points , you would apply for residency under the skilled migrant category or perhaps a work to residence visa.
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Sep 8th 2013, 11:57 pm
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Re: Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
thanks for your replies..
not being rude but you made yor move 8 years ago... ! emigration may have got more
stricter since then, ! and havn't the authorities got wise to this or is it a common way of entry?
Would be an idea though as could see nz at sme time as looking for work...worth considering!
not being rude but you made yor move 8 years ago... ! emigration may have got more
stricter since then, ! and havn't the authorities got wise to this or is it a common way of entry?
Would be an idea though as could see nz at sme time as looking for work...worth considering!
Sep 9th 2013, 12:15 am
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As long as you don't make it obvious , you would be fine to enter as a tourist and then quietly look for work. Very many people do just that . Some enter, find a job and uplift a work permit there and then. Some gain the precious job offer and then return to their country of residence to put the paperwork and move in motion.
The assorted policies towards NZ emigration have changed a little over the years. The one area that seems to have been tightened is that health.Of course, these days there are far less occupations in shortage here, however your occupation is on the long term shortage list.
Do you hold a trade/craft qualification? I ask as it seems slighty odd that your points under SMC come in at under 100.
Please use the POINTS INDICATOR and come back with what points it shows.
Chef 351311
The assorted policies towards NZ emigration have changed a little over the years. The one area that seems to have been tightened is that health.Of course, these days there are far less occupations in shortage here, however your occupation is on the long term shortage list.
Do you hold a trade/craft qualification? I ask as it seems slighty odd that your points under SMC come in at under 100.
Please use the POINTS INDICATOR and come back with what points it shows.
Chef 351311
Either National Certificate in
Hospitality (Professional Cookery)
Level 4 OR
National Certificate in Hospitality
(Cookery) Level 4 OR
a Level 5 Diploma (specialising in
the area of professional cookery)
AND
A minimum of five years' combined
experience in establishments
offering a la carte/banqueting
or commercial catering, with a
minimum of two years at Chef de
Partie (Section Leader level or
higher)
Hospitality (Professional Cookery)
Level 4 OR
National Certificate in Hospitality
(Cookery) Level 4 OR
a Level 5 Diploma (specialising in
the area of professional cookery)
AND
A minimum of five years' combined
experience in establishments
offering a la carte/banqueting
or commercial catering, with a
minimum of two years at Chef de
Partie (Section Leader level or
higher)
Sep 9th 2013, 4:18 pm
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Re: Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
I have a diploma in professional catering NVQ levels 2 and 3 uk, looking on the NZQF that equates to level 5 giving me forty points.. I did a calaculation and only scored 60 points on the points indicator ,must have missed something there.! although the agency i have been in contact with scored me 105 points....a bit confused as to what to believe..even more what to do..!!!
Get a feeling that going via an agency could be a waste of money despite what they advise..!!
,must have missed something there.! although the agency i have been in contact with scored me 105 points....a bit confused as to what to believe..even more what to do..!!!Get a feeling that going via an agency could be a waste of money despite what they advise..!!
Sep 9th 2013, 8:06 pm
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don't waste your money on agency, 105 isn't going to get your selected I'm afraid.
have another go at the points indicator and see what it comes out with with a job offer
Sep 10th 2013, 2:03 am
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Re: Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
thanks for your replies..
not being rude but you made yor move 8 years ago... ! emigration may have got more
stricter since then, ! and havn't the authorities got wise to this or is it a common way of entry?
Would be an idea though as could see nz at sme time as looking for work...worth considering!
not being rude but you made yor move 8 years ago... ! emigration may have got more
stricter since then, ! and havn't the authorities got wise to this or is it a common way of entry?
Would be an idea though as could see nz at sme time as looking for work...worth considering!
We had to have a 6mth return tickets with proof that we had sufficient funds to cover our expenses...also we had to provide an address where we were staying....
Sep 10th 2013, 2:26 am
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Re: Chef looking to emigrate to NZ - advice please on visas and job search.
I have a diploma in professional catering NVQ levels 2 and 3 uk, looking on the NZQF that equates to level 5 giving me forty points.. I did a calaculation and only scored 60 points on the points indicator ,must have missed something there.! although the agency i have been in contact with scored me 105 points....a bit confused as to what to believe..even more what to do..!!!
Get a feeling that going via an agency could be a waste of money despite what they advise..!!
,must have missed something there.! although the agency i have been in contact with scored me 105 points....a bit confused as to what to believe..even more what to do..!!!Get a feeling that going via an agency could be a waste of money despite what they advise..!!
Please look HERE.(click the link)It shows how points are awarded.
Your possible points:-
Age 47 = 20 points
Chef diploma = 40 points
Work exp = 30 points - I am assuming you have worked as a chef for ten years at least.
Bonus points = 15 points - Chef is on the Long Term shortage list
This makes a total of 105 points . So, like most folks these days, you need a job offer to up the points and to also improve the quality of the application. NZIS look favourably on those with job offers as they are in a far better position to settle.
If you gain an NZ job offer you can add a further 50 points.
As the occupation is on the LTSSL you can have another 10 points.
If that job offer is outside of Auckland you can add 10 more points.
In theory, this is perfectly doable for you , provided you can gain a full-time permanent job offer.
Your way forward is to perhaps think to enter NZ for the purpose of a job hunt to secure a post. Thereafter and to start work quickly you would apply for a temporary work visa ( if applying offshore) - permit ( if applying onshore). From there you would apply for residency.
Some companies are 'accredited employers' with NZIS. For instance Accor is - www.accorhotels.co.nz
You may have some luck contacting assorted hotel chains looking for a placement.
Sep 10th 2013, 9:58 pm
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Thanks...i have seen jobs advertised on nz websites but many want work visas or permits,
would this be the case if i was looking for work in nz or are they leniant and allow me to apply for visa in the country, majority of chef jobs would have a start date of within 3 to 4 weeks. I reckon this would be the best way but not ideal asi i might not have much luck...!!
would this be the case if i was looking for work in nz or are they leniant and allow me to apply for visa in the country, majority of chef jobs would have a start date of within 3 to 4 weeks. I reckon this would be the best way but not ideal asi i might not have much luck...!!
Sep 10th 2013, 10:43 pm
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Many NZ employers don't realise it is a job offer first, then a work visa/permit & not the other way around. You need to educate them on this. Apply for positions and tell them you could start a.s.a.p. by uplifting a temp work visa/permit. NZIS are mindful of NZ employers and start dates.
An accredited employer should have a better idea of how the system works.
An accredited employer should have a better idea of how the system works.
