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Old Nov 10th 2007, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by Baron Silas Greenback
What a complete load of old tosh. Impossible to back that up, its unreported for a reason, and unless you have a webcam in every home in the UK and NZ, you are talking out of your ass.
having some stats it seems that you may be right - reporting of crime is higher in NZ than UK:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ting-to-police
but assaults per capita are higher in NZ than UK:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...lts-per-capita
as there don't seem to be a great deal of street fighting, pub brawls, etc going on in NZ (that are reported or that I have seen) then maybe these assaults are happening somewhere else.......the home perhaps????
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Old Nov 10th 2007, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by Avid
Go back 10 years and have a look at the 'winebox scandal' if you want to see how corrupt NZ really can be....

Nobody is biting on the Aus forums, regards NZ intelligence.

No surprise as, for all their many fine qualities, Australians have to be the most self centered bunch of thickos on the planet...

if you shout that loud enough then they will all come riding in from WA................

No, wait........... that's where all the Kiwis who want to earn a few more dollars are heading............tally ho...............
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Old Nov 10th 2007, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by Avid
I do think...if people say that New Zealand is sexist and/or chauvinistic....they should at least let us know what countries NZ should aspire to.

In 2005 New Zealand became the only country in world history to have all the main political offices held simultaneously by females (Queen, Prime Minister, Governor, Chief Justice, Speaker of the House)...if that's a male-dominated country then I'd really like to know what the solution is.
Newsflash - - - - - Helen Clark is a WOMAN - - - - - - - well female (at least) - - - - - - - -

Yeah, you're right I suppose (technically)..............
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Old Nov 10th 2007, 10:16 am
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Looking at the Australian forums.....

They have six times the number of British Immigrants compared to NZ but SEVENTEEN times the number of posts on this website....and they don't even have proper Internet over there....

Conclusion: Australia must be quite dull...
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Old Nov 10th 2007, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by Avid
Looking at the Australian forums.....

They have six times the number of British Immigrants compared to NZ but SEVENTEEN times the number of posts on this website....and they don't even have proper Internet over there....

Conclusion: Australia must be quite dull...
yeah, suppose so - will probably check it out ourselves in the near future although MrsL and Lardy MkII are really terrified of creepie crawlies, snakes, etc.........
internet can't be any worse that Telecom here??? ???
the TV must be better surely?
and the papers/ radio news might have something worth reading/listening to?
Do you listen the "Checkpoint" on the radio ? Ruddy Mary Wilson winds me up - poor man's John Humphries - and all the repeats of music slots on the local radio - I often end up driving several hundres ks in a day and can't find anything to relieve the boredom of mini-hits on the radio......
Luckily the mates at work bought me a nice 8Gb Nano as a leaving present, a lifesaver many times over! Thanks ladies and gents, its often near my heart
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internet can't be any worse that Telecom here??? ???
the TV must be better surely?
and the papers/ radio news might have something worth reading/listening to?



Wait and see......at least New Zealanders have some sense that there's a world outside their borders....
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as there don't seem to be a great deal of street fighting, pub brawls, etc going on in NZ (that are reported or that I have seen) then maybe these assaults are happening somewhere else.......the home perhaps????
You are making massive assumptions again, based n zero facts.

We get you dont like NZ, that you want to be in Aus, that your wife is stopping you, but dont take your bitterness out on NZ.

As for not taking advice from supposed better practice, the EXACT same thing happens over here when NZ'ers come to the UK, its just fact of life that what you are used to, you see as better.
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Originally Posted by Avid
I feel the exact opposite! NZ men are amongst the most pussy-whipped I've ever encountered and the women are some of the loudest, bossiest harridans I've ever seen.

What a terrible world it would be if we all thought the same, eh?
Television ads are not anti-male ?, erm hello ? are we living on the same planet. every night , i see television ads which are ANTI-MEN, and are designed to portray men in a very negative way http://www.glennsacks.com/volvo/ping-pong.php http://www.glennsacks.com/volvo/parking.php
Yes portraying men like this is funny once, but every night, it begins to seem like the truth , which is what they want, maybe

There is a good section in the Sunday Star Times for men each week http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/0a25961.html

I am with Avid with this one, in the government, the PM and 3 other top jobs are held by females, and the family laws are the most extreme pro-female in any country that i know. If anyone knows my situation , it is all due to this feminised jurisprudence which has been built up over the years since the 70s. Police and lawyers are all governed by the same feminist agenda which has brought large scale destruction to families and society in general by giving mother legal and financial incentives to eject fathers from their kids lives.
It is allowing legalised gold-digging in the divorce laws, what message is this sending to sons ? The kids are the ones that are suffering, because of it all
It is all social engineering by law, of course, of course women needed protecting from violent husbands and need equality in the work place
BUT IT ALL GONE TOO FAR, MEN HAVE TO FIGHT BACK ,
PS Don't you mean "MALE Chauvinism" ?

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Old Nov 10th 2007, 7:18 pm
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You make some good points Brussel, but I think these kind of things are common throughout the western world at the moment. Look at the Fathers for Justice campaign in the UK. These complex issues of gender identity are not reserved for the UK or NZ, but some on this board with an anti NZ agenda seem determined to make it so.
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Old Nov 10th 2007, 7:42 pm
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This thread's gone a tad off-topic hasn't it? I just want to know when Nerine is leaving these shores. She seems to have been leaving for an awfully long time now. I wonder if Oz is going to let her in?
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interesting read

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/11...ectid=10475271
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Originally Posted by Baron Silas Greenback
You make some good points Brussel, but I think these kind of things are common throughout the western world at the moment. Look at the Fathers for Justice campaign in the UK. These complex issues of gender identity are not reserved for the UK or NZ, but some on this board with an anti NZ agenda seem determined to make it so.
Yes, i agree, they are common to 1st world nations, yes, but as i said, NZ family laws are quite extreme (and backward - although they think the opposite) compared to other such nations. The domestic violence laws feed themselves, women are simply using them to get custody of children and money in many many cases. Therefore the figures increase, the government provides more funds,say ooooh it is getting worse, more researchers will be recruited to say something has to be done, the lawyers and "court specialists" are never going to say no to more work and money. The women's lawyers tell the women how to make allegations of violence nd how to get custody and it goes round and round in greater and costlier circles.

if there is ever another war, do you think that women will be forced to enlist ?

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Bah! Like your facts and international research can compete with Nerines experience with a second hand car salesman!

Actually top work making Nerines rant look a bit silly.
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Yes, i agree, they are common to 1st world nations, yes, but as i said, NZ family laws are quite extreme (and backward - although they think the opposite) compared to other such nations. The domestic violence laws feed themselves, women are simply using them to get custody of children and money in many many cases. Therefore the figures increase, the government provides more funds,say ooooh it is getting worse, more researchers will be recruited to say something has to be done, the lawyers and "court specialists" are never going to say no to more work and money. The women's lawyers tell the women how to make allegations of violence nd how to get custody and it goes round and round in greater and costlier circles.

if there is ever another war, do you think that women will be forced to enlist ?
Totally 100% agree that the NZ family courts system leaves a lot to be desired. My uncle has experienced the anguish of the system, it was awful. I havent had close contat with the British one, but have heard bad things about it as well.

(and backward - although they think the opposite)
I guarantee they think it is advanced, and its hard to say if its advanced in a bad direction or just backwards..... lets just agree its rubbish
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Can I just say "Quack".

They are funny, tongue in cheek ads. But thats just my "blokey" opinion. Otherwise I'll just leave it up to ALL you women on this thread to work out what is acceptable for me and my family to watch on tele.
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