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Old Mar 12th 2016, 8:52 pm
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Just in case you're struggling to make your mind up, Lorde's Mum says #neverever


Kiwi celebrities and flag change: who says yes and who says no? | Stuff.co.nz
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Old Mar 12th 2016, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles View Post
Just in case you're struggling to make your mind up, Lorde's Mum says #neverever


Kiwi celebrities and flag change: who says yes and who says no? | Stuff.co.nz
Yikes, z list celebrities speak!
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anyone who cannot tell the difference from NZ flag against the Australian flag should be ashamed of themselves. Yes Richie McCaw I'm talking to you
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Old Mar 13th 2016, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by jmh View Post
Yikes, z list celebrities speak!
I'm not voting until I hear from someone with a bit more authority - I was hoping we would at least hear what Justin Bieber's mum has to say on the matter.
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Originally Posted by MrsFychan View Post
anyone who cannot tell the difference from NZ flag against the Australian flag should be ashamed of themselves. Yes Richie McCaw I'm talking to you
Your right they are both bloody terrible.....
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Originally Posted by MrsFychan View Post
anyone who cannot tell the difference from NZ flag against the Australian flag should be ashamed of themselves. Yes Richie McCaw I'm talking to you
The Australian flag looks odd


Better they change to avoid confusion


Perhaps a banana? or red fruit certainty not green
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I have talked to Kiwis about this and their arguments against flag change are very strange, mainly that it's a selfish scheme by John Key to get his name in the history books thus they stand against it. Others are than many fought and died under the flag. What they don't understand is that most of Europe's flags are merely a few centuries old to represent the vast social and political change of that Nation.

New Zealand has a foreign nation symbol on it's flag yet New Zealand is a multi cultural nation that is starting to develop its own identity away from its colonial past, surely they should want that represented. Some people are afraid of change for no other reason than its different than what they are used to, kiwis are definitely in this category
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I would like to change the flag, but I don't feel the new one represents me as much as the current one so I voted no, on the grounds that we are likely to get another option to change in a year or two for a better design. If the new flag is chosen now, it will never change.

The current flag has the symbol of our head of state, the Queen, so it's not entirely inappropriate.

Is it a vanity project for the PM? Yes. Is that a good reason not to vote for it? No, if you like the design.
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So, here you go, that's helpful???????????????????

In today's NZ Herald

The alternative to the New Zealand flag is "bad feng shui" and could bring bad luck, instability and even a stock market crash, a New Zealand feng shui consultant says.
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Old Mar 15th 2016, 8:43 am
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Being a foreigner, I'll wait to see what South Koreas Lydia Ko says before casting my vote
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or south africa's Irene van Dyk, what a great kiwi she is
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I'm gutted we've heard about every tweet and move of Lewis Hamilton this week, yet still no mention of what he has to say about the flag.
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Lets wait and see what Mrs Mountbatten says.
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I have talked to Kiwis about this and their arguments against flag change are very strange, mainly that it's a selfish scheme by John Key to get his name in the history books thus they stand against it. Others are than many fought and died under the flag. What they don't understand is that most of Europe's flags are merely a few centuries old to represent the vast social and political change of that Nation.

New Zealand has a foreign nation symbol on it's flag yet New Zealand is a multi cultural nation that is starting to develop its own identity away from its colonial past, surely they should want that represented. Some people are afraid of change for no other reason than its different than what they are used to, kiwis are definitely in this category
Don't agree. Kiwis love change; sell it, tear it down, cut it down; "we want new shiny things". Respect for the land and its history is low. We are still part of the Commonwealth and should celebrate
this and support the Brits to get out of the EU and so be able to rebulild close ties with NZ again. The flag is the past and the present and the future for NZ. I grew up in NZ under that flag. If you don't like it, find another country whose flag you find more pleasing.
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