Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
#16
Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Trouble is the law as far as I can tell only deals with who is giving advice and the nature of their engagement (ie formal/fee or not), rather than the nature of the advice being given.
Don't disagree with any of that re the OP.
However this site is stuffed full of case-specific advice so where does it go from there??? Note "in trouble" with NZIS doesn't mean any laws have been broken, for all NZIS knows we are all licenced advisors....and I am not quite sure on what legal basis NZIS would attack a forum with servers in California carrying specific answers on NZ immigration where the answers are provided by a Brit in Canada to a Bangladeshi in New Orleans....for example...
My point was that no-one should expect this forum to solve their immigration issues...
*edit. Actually a few websites (an immy forum, a blog) were/are in trouble with NZIS for offering too detailed immigration advice, so forums aren't completely exempt from the rule even though they're free. ...
*edit. Actually a few websites (an immy forum, a blog) were/are in trouble with NZIS for offering too detailed immigration advice, so forums aren't completely exempt from the rule even though they're free. ...
However this site is stuffed full of case-specific advice so where does it go from there??? Note "in trouble" with NZIS doesn't mean any laws have been broken, for all NZIS knows we are all licenced advisors....and I am not quite sure on what legal basis NZIS would attack a forum with servers in California carrying specific answers on NZ immigration where the answers are provided by a Brit in Canada to a Bangladeshi in New Orleans....for example...
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
AFAIK, the forum in question didn't charge any money towards the advice, so free/fee wasn't an issue. Nor did the blog. It was precisely the nature of the advice, i.e. direct, detailed advice aimed at individuals that got them in trouble. The problem is that it is not us who decides where the line goes -it seems to be at the discretion of the NZIS who then lodge a formal legal process if they feel someone has breached the line.
There is case-specific and case-specific advice: saying that "if you meet criteria Z, you're likely to be accepted as per NZIS document 123" or "if you have qualification X you can apply through category Y as said in NZIS webpages" is very different than guiding someone through every step ("do this, then do that, use that term") or promising a certain result ("if you do this, you will be accepted"). We simply can't give any guarantees that someone is accepted or isn't accepted, whether they should apply or whether NZ is the right country for them -that is very case specific advice. We can discuss their options and general issues related to their process as well as the general criteria. As far as I know, it was precisely too detailed and too case specific advice that the NZIS used as a basis for their case against the other forum: they claimed that they were giving direct immigration advice. There may have been other background factors, but that was the reason NZIS gave for their complaint.
Sorry for hijacking the thread -I've made my point so this will be my last post regarding the matter. I think I've made my point clear for both the OP and for others.
There is case-specific and case-specific advice: saying that "if you meet criteria Z, you're likely to be accepted as per NZIS document 123" or "if you have qualification X you can apply through category Y as said in NZIS webpages" is very different than guiding someone through every step ("do this, then do that, use that term") or promising a certain result ("if you do this, you will be accepted"). We simply can't give any guarantees that someone is accepted or isn't accepted, whether they should apply or whether NZ is the right country for them -that is very case specific advice. We can discuss their options and general issues related to their process as well as the general criteria. As far as I know, it was precisely too detailed and too case specific advice that the NZIS used as a basis for their case against the other forum: they claimed that they were giving direct immigration advice. There may have been other background factors, but that was the reason NZIS gave for their complaint.
Sorry for hijacking the thread -I've made my point so this will be my last post regarding the matter. I think I've made my point clear for both the OP and for others.
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
*edit. Actually a few websites (an immy forum, a blog) were/are in trouble with NZIS for offering too detailed immigration advice, so forums aren't completely exempt from the rule even though they're free. As long as the advice is general and informal it is OK, but the immy forum got into trouble for offering too detailed, specific case related, advice, which the OP really was after.
I know of no other.
This is a USA owned website with many nationalities around the world dropping by on a variety of forums within the site.. It's an information exchange on all manner of topics . Nothing more or less.
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor: It is against NZ law to offer any specific immigration advice for anyone else without being a qualified and registered immigration agent/lawyer. Nobody here can say you whether you should apply or not -we can only give you very general advice like how the process normally goes (NZQA assessment may be needed etc). Your personal circumstances will be a major factor, and nobody else can advice you on that.
You must familiarize yourself with the requirements and terminology at the NZIS website.
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You must familiarize yourself with the requirements and terminology at the NZIS website.
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If you are right then there is no use of this forum...
I saw the points calculator...and keep visiting the http://www.immigration.govt.nz/ site just for a week.
then i decided to post on this forum to make my findings faster..and authentic....and keep asking experienced people like you..
and in future ill keep asking more details specific queries here...
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
*edit. Actually a few websites (an immy forum, a blog) were/are in trouble with NZIS for offering too detailed immigration advice, so forums aren't completely exempt from the rule even though they're free. As long as the advice is general and informal it is OK, but the immy forum got into trouble for offering too detailed, specific case related, advice, which the OP really was after.
To reiterate BE is not an advice forum, and no one here is offering migration advice, (paid or otherwise). Members are simply sharing their migration experiences with each other, and discussing the ups and downs of moving abroad.
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor, if you star an EOI application online it will keep a running score of your points, depending on your answers. It will take some time to do and you don't have to send it. I did it this way to see how many points I might be allocated. It's more detailed than the basic points calculator.
hope this helps.
Lydia
hope this helps.
Lydia
#22
Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor, if you star an EOI application online it will keep a running score of your points, depending on your answers. It will take some time to do and you don't have to send it. I did it this way to see how many points I might be allocated. It's more detailed than the basic points calculator.
hope this helps.
Lydia
hope this helps.
Lydia
#23
Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor, if you star an EOI application online it will keep a running score of your points, depending on your answers. It will take some time to do and you don't have to send it. I did it this way to see how many points I might be allocated. It's more detailed than the basic points calculator.
hope this helps.
Lydia
hope this helps.
Lydia
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor, if you star an EOI application online it will keep a running score of your points, depending on your answers. It will take some time to do and you don't have to send it. I did it this way to see how many points I might be allocated. It's more detailed than the basic points calculator.
hope this helps.
Lydia
hope this helps.
Lydia
#25
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Re: Can I apply...for skilled migrataion in NZ ..Please give sugession
Ishshor, if you star an EOI application online it will keep a running score of your points, depending on your answers. It will take some time to do and you don't have to send it. I did it this way to see how many points I might be allocated. It's more detailed than the basic points calculator.
hope this helps.
Lydia
hope this helps.
Lydia