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jmh Mar 20th 2009 10:19 pm

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 7403828)
An egg!!! We have a really good Panasonic machine and Kate uses Edmonds red top yeast, an egg, a bit of water and olive oil and a high grade white plain flour. She does the dough in the machine then we let it rise over night and the oven comes on auto matically just before the cheap leccy ends...gorgeous smell, blinding bread and all done on the cheap!!!!

Having said that the machine sometimes does it all but the overnight oven jobbie is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior!!

MMmmmmm that sounds nice. I can imagine the egg adds a nice richness to it. I have a panasonic too. Can you not just leave it in on the timer to come on in the morning in time for breakfast?

Genesis Mar 21st 2009 10:21 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by jmh (Post 7403852)
MMmmmmm that sounds nice. I can imagine the egg adds a nice richness to it. I have a panasonic too. Can you not just leave it in on the timer to come on in the morning in time for breakfast?

Yes I am sure you can BUT the oven baked bread is sooooooooooooooo much crispier and waaaaaaaaaay yummier!!!! Its more faffing around and less convenient I grant you..but its worth the aggro.

Soppydot4 Mar 22nd 2009 9:44 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 7405187)
Yes I am sure you can BUT the oven baked bread is sooooooooooooooo much crispier and waaaaaaaaaay yummier!!!! Its more faffing around and less convenient I grant you..but its worth the aggro.

mmmmmmmmmm might have to give that a go ...

Genesis Mar 22nd 2009 9:58 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Soppydot4 (Post 7407774)
mmmmmmmmmm might have to give that a go ...



Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmarvelous. Let me know the results!!

Soppydot4 Mar 22nd 2009 10:01 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 7407827)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmarvelous. Let me know the results!!

LOL - just realised what I'd done :)

sr71 Mar 22nd 2009 1:47 pm

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 7403828)
An egg!!! We have a really good Panasonic machine and Kate uses Edmonds red top yeast, an egg, a bit of water and olive oil and a high grade white plain flour. She does the dough in the machine then we let it rise over night and the oven comes on auto matically just before the cheap leccy ends...gorgeous smell, blinding bread and all done on the cheap!!!!

Having said that the machine sometimes does it all but the overnight oven jobbie is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior!!

Part of the reason why British bread is absolutely terrible (sorry, but it is) is the Chroleywood process they use, compared to the French it has hardly any proving time. So anything that is left overnight, regardless how it is cooked, will taste a lot better. We have a Panasonic and it has programs on that allow for the long proving and the quality of the bread is far, far better than the quick programs.

BTW : the yeast is usually the problem, it is different in the UK. You just need to get the amount right. What I would suggest is trying to get a local manual (maybe from the internet) for your bread machine and use the recipes in there with NZ ingredients and timings, rather than following the UK supplied manual/recipe.

jmh Mar 22nd 2009 8:47 pm

Re: Bread
 
Hmmm... preference for bread is obviously personal, but I find bread made if Britain to be delicious and struggle to find bread as nice in other countries. I don't buy the discount bread though which is not so nice. Compare like with like, packaged bread with packaged bread, etc. I have had some pretty awful bread abroad, including in France.

sparkie down under Mar 23rd 2009 7:29 am

Re: Bread
 
sr71, I'm sure they use the Chorleywood method over here on commercial operations. It's so. much cheaper and I think the bread you buy in the shops is simular to that back home.

to the others I've tried some of your methods and the results are the same, (almost). I'm sure it's the yeast. What yeast are you all using?

janek Mar 23rd 2009 7:46 am

Re: Bread
 
i use 'Active dried yeast', brand name 'tasti' but have also used the Edmonds one, I keep it in the fridge.

jmh Mar 23rd 2009 9:14 am

Re: Bread
 
If the yeast experiment doesn't work, try making it the long way by hand to see if your break maker has developed a fault. The only time I have had a problem with mine is when I forget to put the paddle in:lol: I'm sure you are not so stupid, but maybe it isn't working properly.

BEVS Mar 23rd 2009 10:33 am

Re: Bread
 
The husband is quite interested in this idea of a bread maker.Bless socks:blink:

Out of interest which brand would be the best to buy then & what should we be looking out for in a good one.

I'm not that into domestics and prefer DIY but do try the cake making thing as himself loves cake but can't stand the shop bought stuff here. Says it all tastes like cardboard.

Genesis Mar 23rd 2009 10:51 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by BEVS here (Post 7411692)
The husband is quite interested in this idea of a bread maker.Bless socks:blink:

Out of interest which brand would be the best to buy then & what should we be looking out for in a good one.

I'm not that into domestics and prefer DIY but do try the cake making thing as himself loves cake but can't stand the shop bought stuff here. Says it all tastes like cardboard.


Its the Panasonic thing you want..an SD253 Harv Norm had it for $178 (down from $278)......trademe?? We have had a number..this is waaaaaaaaaay the best. It even has an integral nut and raisin dispenser!!!!!!!:eek:

sr71 Mar 23rd 2009 10:52 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by sparkie down under (Post 7411043)
sr71, I'm sure they use the Chorleywood method over here on commercial operations. It's so. much cheaper and I think the bread you buy in the shops is simular to that back home.

Yes, it's pretty much all tasteless mush. wherever it's made - apart from France and Germany where you seem to get delicious bread everywhere.

BEVS Mar 23rd 2009 5:53 pm

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 7411760)
Its the Panasonic thing you want..an SD253 Harv Norm had it for $178 (down from $278)......trademe?? We have had a number..this is waaaaaaaaaay the best. It even has an integral nut and raisin dispenser!!!!!!!:eek:

Ta for that Genesis. :) I'll have to see if I can find one . Himself has been mentioning a bread maker now for months.

Soppydot4 Mar 24th 2009 9:02 am

Re: Bread
 

Originally Posted by sparkie down under (Post 7411043)
sr71, I'm sure they use the Chorleywood method over here on commercial operations. It's so. much cheaper and I think the bread you buy in the shops is simular to that back home.

to the others I've tried some of your methods and the results are the same, (almost). I'm sure it's the yeast. What yeast are you all using?



I've used Edmonds - "Sure to Rise Instant Dry Yeast Ideal for use in home bread makers".

The only difference in the loaf I made here was that it wasn't crusty but then using flour for soft white bread it won't be will it!


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