Australia to NZ
#1
Australia to NZ
There seem to be a lot of threads about people who have first moved to NZ and then moved on to Australia. Has anyone done the opposite; moved first to Oz and then on to NZ?
When I read many of the comparison threads, that go on about how backward NZ is and how much easier life is in Oz, it just doesn't match my experience.
So has anyone done Oz then NZ and if so why?
When I read many of the comparison threads, that go on about how backward NZ is and how much easier life is in Oz, it just doesn't match my experience.
So has anyone done Oz then NZ and if so why?
#2
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Re: Australia to NZ
Hi there
We're thinking of doing just that - moving from Oz to NZ. Reasons are many and varied. We've just been to the South Island and liked what we saw there - hoping to move later this year.
We're thinking of doing just that - moving from Oz to NZ. Reasons are many and varied. We've just been to the South Island and liked what we saw there - hoping to move later this year.
#3
Re: Australia to NZ
Can you share your reasons? Or send me a PM if you'd rather not on the open forum?
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Re: Australia to NZ
I've sent you a PM
#5
Re: Australia to NZ
There seem to be a lot of threads about people who have first moved to NZ and then moved on to Australia. Has anyone done the opposite; moved first to Oz and then on to NZ?
When I read many of the comparison threads, that go on about how backward NZ is and how much easier life is in Oz, it just doesn't match my experience.
So has anyone done Oz then NZ and if so why?
When I read many of the comparison threads, that go on about how backward NZ is and how much easier life is in Oz, it just doesn't match my experience.
So has anyone done Oz then NZ and if so why?
On the other hand we've got a few ozzie friends who have moved to Auckland and are able to enjoy a million dollar property with views of the sea, close to the city, pool, etc etc .... they would never be able to afford a similar style of life in (for instance) 20 mins of Sydney CBD.
#6
Re: Australia to NZ
I do wonder sometimes if it's just all about the money. That seems to be the biggest complaint - people end up skint in NZ. No one seems to consider the other factors - the space, the scenerey, the outdoor activities etc.
#7
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Re: Australia to NZ
Hello I've not posted on here for a very long time. Got meself a life ha ha.
No seriously, we lived in Oz for 4 yrs, moved to NZ and have been here just over 3 years. For me, I like it but it never got under my hubbys' skin and he had some terrible work experiences here and he has worked all over the world in IT and managed several projects. Now he works in Oz and we're fed up with seeing each other so little so it's a move back to where the work is. It is not money for us as we will have a much, much bigger mortgage over there to get what we want (semi rural) and money here was ok for us - not spectacular but okay. Moving to new countries batters your bank balance if not much else anyway.
Plus side to NZ is the people are still very open in general and they are welcoming and friendly. I thought it was my imagination at first and thought they were all on prozac. The people have been absolutely wonderful here. i cannot fault them. Their generosity knows no bounds and they'd give you the shirt off of their backs.
Money does not go as far here but we have managed to get a nice little place in the country but it's still out of reach of most peoples' pockets.
The people can seema bit 'mend and make do' but it becomes endearing in the end. As a person who recycles like mad and doens't need the latest this and the latest that I still can't work out why this annoyed me so much! Bit close to home I guess.
We dont' actually like the oz suburbs (or any suburbs) so for us NZ has the edge on living a more peaceful life and the way the townships are dotted about here is more like the UK and the landscape is far more gentle and scenic than Oz whaich is dramatic, hard and can seem like a moonscape!
I do think at the moment people are thinking Oz is better but if you like NZ it's better for you here. I still love Oz but it's far better here for any pets as there are no paralysis ticks, snakes or other creepys.
They are weird drivers here. I won't miss the left turn rule!
As for my work, I fell on my feet here, I work in a lovely environment and only hope i can get it when I go back to the big smoke that is Oz.
I know others who have made th ejump and woudl not go back to Oz. Mostly they are animal orientated people though.
Mumomonty.
No seriously, we lived in Oz for 4 yrs, moved to NZ and have been here just over 3 years. For me, I like it but it never got under my hubbys' skin and he had some terrible work experiences here and he has worked all over the world in IT and managed several projects. Now he works in Oz and we're fed up with seeing each other so little so it's a move back to where the work is. It is not money for us as we will have a much, much bigger mortgage over there to get what we want (semi rural) and money here was ok for us - not spectacular but okay. Moving to new countries batters your bank balance if not much else anyway.
Plus side to NZ is the people are still very open in general and they are welcoming and friendly. I thought it was my imagination at first and thought they were all on prozac. The people have been absolutely wonderful here. i cannot fault them. Their generosity knows no bounds and they'd give you the shirt off of their backs.
Money does not go as far here but we have managed to get a nice little place in the country but it's still out of reach of most peoples' pockets.
The people can seema bit 'mend and make do' but it becomes endearing in the end. As a person who recycles like mad and doens't need the latest this and the latest that I still can't work out why this annoyed me so much! Bit close to home I guess.
We dont' actually like the oz suburbs (or any suburbs) so for us NZ has the edge on living a more peaceful life and the way the townships are dotted about here is more like the UK and the landscape is far more gentle and scenic than Oz whaich is dramatic, hard and can seem like a moonscape!
I do think at the moment people are thinking Oz is better but if you like NZ it's better for you here. I still love Oz but it's far better here for any pets as there are no paralysis ticks, snakes or other creepys.
They are weird drivers here. I won't miss the left turn rule!
As for my work, I fell on my feet here, I work in a lovely environment and only hope i can get it when I go back to the big smoke that is Oz.
I know others who have made th ejump and woudl not go back to Oz. Mostly they are animal orientated people though.
Mumomonty.
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Re: Australia to NZ
I've no idea what the problem is because as you say, Kiwis are welcoming and friendly?
What needs to change to make the work environment comparable to other countries?
I know from listening to various economists comment on the NZ economy, that the low productivity in NZ is partly because employers would rather have a low wage workforce than invest in modern equipment.
Perhaps workers are too subservient to their managers.
Do unions need to flex their muscles........dunno
Kip
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#11
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Re: Australia to NZ
The other factors are here in Oz too and many of them are better. It's not about the money you know. Our quality of life is much improved here and we've found all the things we were looking for in NZ.
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Re: Australia to NZ
I know from listening to various economists comment on the NZ economy, that the low productivity in NZ is partly because employers would rather have a low wage workforce than invest in modern equipment.
Perhaps workers are too subservient to their managers.
Do unions need to flex their muscles........dunno
Do unions need to flex their muscles........dunno
#14
Re: Australia to NZ
Try and get ahold of an article from either Thurs/Fri in the NZ Herald. It was all about people moving from OZ to NZ.
#15
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Re: Australia to NZ
For us the money didn't come into it. In Oz there is a higher standard of education for our kids, private education is subsidised here so we can afford to send them to a good school, which was an absolute priority for us after what they encountered in NZ.
We have a much more out-doorsey lifestyle - with beaches, mountains, and rainforests to choose from. The weather is a lot more agreeable during the day and the warm evenings enables us to do more after dark than we used to- sitting out, swimming, etc. The climate means that we can do this all year round, so if it rains for a few weeks during the summer that doesn't mean the whole year is ruined.
My husband is back to doing the standard of work he used to do in the UK, he's actually had to "unlearn" the Kiwi way of doing things and get back to Westernised working patterns and standards. He also doesn't have to sit in a traffic jam for a min of 2.5 hours every day, instead he chooses to travel to work by train using a ticket which he buys through his employer at a discounted rate, before tax is deducted.
It's so easy to get around the GC - good public transport if we want to use it and plenty of fast, well laid out dual carriageways that makes travelling around very quick and easy, dare I say it - a pleasure!
The houses are better here - much more good quality housing stock to choose from, prices are certainly comparable to Auckland but not so much of the overpriced, damp, wooden variety or the 'plaster' houses. The lovely rental we have now would've been impossible to find in North Shore.
There are a whole load of other things too. These are just a few that spring to mind straight off.
We have a much more out-doorsey lifestyle - with beaches, mountains, and rainforests to choose from. The weather is a lot more agreeable during the day and the warm evenings enables us to do more after dark than we used to- sitting out, swimming, etc. The climate means that we can do this all year round, so if it rains for a few weeks during the summer that doesn't mean the whole year is ruined.
My husband is back to doing the standard of work he used to do in the UK, he's actually had to "unlearn" the Kiwi way of doing things and get back to Westernised working patterns and standards. He also doesn't have to sit in a traffic jam for a min of 2.5 hours every day, instead he chooses to travel to work by train using a ticket which he buys through his employer at a discounted rate, before tax is deducted.
It's so easy to get around the GC - good public transport if we want to use it and plenty of fast, well laid out dual carriageways that makes travelling around very quick and easy, dare I say it - a pleasure!
The houses are better here - much more good quality housing stock to choose from, prices are certainly comparable to Auckland but not so much of the overpriced, damp, wooden variety or the 'plaster' houses. The lovely rental we have now would've been impossible to find in North Shore.
There are a whole load of other things too. These are just a few that spring to mind straight off.
Last edited by Nerine; Jan 28th 2008 at 10:43 am.