After 5 years, i miss UK
#61
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
I love the idea of getting away
not seeing all those faces you really want to avoid (all my extended family!)
And moving from the UK is no bad thing. Its a good safety net, as if you mess up in NZ and have to go back, the UK is hardly a warzone
I'm 23, no kids, wife, property, so i got little to lose. I guess if your older and have kids its a different story
not seeing all those faces you really want to avoid (all my extended family!)
And moving from the UK is no bad thing. Its a good safety net, as if you mess up in NZ and have to go back, the UK is hardly a warzone
I'm 23, no kids, wife, property, so i got little to lose. I guess if your older and have kids its a different story
#62
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
As someone who is looking at emigrating from the UK this makes very interesting reading. We are obviously in the summer months here (Devon) now and our thoughts are turning to taking days out at the various local beaches and seaside towns however we do dread the weekends. When we decide where we want to go we need to ensure that we have at least £7 worth of change to park and that's only useful if you have arrived by 10.30am anything after and you can be looking at trying to find a parking space for about 1hr. This really does take any shine off your day out. We spent two months in NZ and were astonished that you can go anywhere, anytime, park for free and not have your personal space invaded! We landed in Heathrow after our trip and wanted to be back on that plane within three hours - we were stuck in traffic on the M25 on a Friday evening and saw more cars in an hour than we did in the previous two months. I understand that people miss their homes but like others have said are you just remembering the good bits? We often think that about our trip to NZ but all I know is nothing has got better in the UK in that last five years. Still think we're going to give it a go, would rather have regrets about trying than live with what if's!
#63
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
I love the idea of getting away
not seeing all those faces you really want to avoid (all my extended family!)
And moving from the UK is no bad thing. Its a good safety net, as if you mess up in NZ and have to go back, the UK is hardly a warzone
I'm 23, no kids, wife, property, so i got little to lose. I guess if your older and have kids its a different story
not seeing all those faces you really want to avoid (all my extended family!)
And moving from the UK is no bad thing. Its a good safety net, as if you mess up in NZ and have to go back, the UK is hardly a warzone
I'm 23, no kids, wife, property, so i got little to lose. I guess if your older and have kids its a different story
#64
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
I was 47 odd when I emigrated. A wife, 3 very young kids, a property and 2 careers to give up (hers and mine). I did not see it as a 'risk' at all. Au contraire I saw it as a HUGE adventure. But then I was not that close to my family, had a small social circle and neither career was doing that well and the area we lived in was well crap. We burnt ALL our bridges and have never regreted doing so. We are those in the camp who reckon to move on you have to genuinely give up stuff and start agin. And that is not to say that those who hang onto stuff in the home country are wrong..not at all. Different folks different strokes.
NZ will be an adventure. So much to see. It'll be like one big permanent holiday
#65
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
avo over 5 yrs I am still excited about living here. Nz is a really special place. It is so empty and such a 'new' place..granted the latter has its downside ie no really historic buildings etc but I had 47 years of that and whilst I miss heaps about the UK NZ really has way surpassed all our expectations. And I do not speak with rosy glasses as we have had more than our fair share of problems along the way. I still reckon (maybe excepting Oz) NZ has to be one of the best places to raise a young family. Okay eventually most young people need to move on as NZ has only a finite amount of space to explore and has limited potential given its size and tiny population but that is cool. But many chose to return having had their OE as they realise NZ does have that uncrowded allure that few other countries in the 1st world can offer.
#66
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This song makes me think on NZ and the peace of mind i'll get
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mFKeL67Dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mFKeL67Dk
#67
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Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
Ah I was born and brought up in Exeter. My mum still lives there and I keep thinking I will go back and visit her soon but at the moment that is not possible. I was wondering the other day about going out and about to the little beaches. We also used to live in Exmouth before we moved to Cornwall and the parking on the Exmouth seafront at that time was free and we often went to Teignmouth, Torquay Brixham, Sidmouth Lyme Regis etc on a sunday jolly. Never used to have problems with paying excessive parking fees but now in NZ we hardly pay any parking not even in the Malls and only when we go into the centre of Christchurch and don't really have to think about carrying change any more. I agree it is best to try something new than maybe to live with regrets. NZ is not for everyone, my daughter moved back to Exmouth after over 5 years here and I think there may be a slight yearning there somewhere for her to return to NZ although she probably wouldn't admit it!! I think she realises why she left there the first time round and is maybe regreting going back!
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Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
What you have eluded to above is one of the main reasons I had to escape the UK. Not because the UK is a 'bad' place..its not. Probably one of the best countries in the world IMO..but its packed to the rafters.
Even a Rolls Royce motor car is not a nice place to be when you have well exceeded the maximum passenger carrying numbers. NZ for all its faults (and they are maaaaaaaaaaaaany) affords you space almost everywhere. A chance to get away from the madding crowds. Which is nice.
Even a Rolls Royce motor car is not a nice place to be when you have well exceeded the maximum passenger carrying numbers. NZ for all its faults (and they are maaaaaaaaaaaaany) affords you space almost everywhere. A chance to get away from the madding crowds. Which is nice.
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Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
I was 47 odd when I emigrated. A wife, 3 very young kids, a property and 2 careers to give up (hers and mine). I did not see it as a 'risk' at all. Au contraire I saw it as a HUGE adventure. But then I was not that close to my family, had a small social circle and neither career was doing that well and the area we lived in was well crap. We burnt ALL our bridges and have never regreted doing so. We are those in the camp who reckon to move on you have to genuinely give up stuff and start agin. And that is not to say that those who hang onto stuff in the home country are wrong..not at all. Different folks different strokes.
#70
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
My hubby and I are 38 and 32 and have a two year old, we both work and have a property. We too, do not see it as a risk emigrating and I think we are in the camp that you are in. Obviously it is very tough emigrating and I just wonder if we don't sell the house are we going to think ah well, it hasn't worked out lets go home. Alternatively, selling lock stock and barrel - do you try harder to make things work?
#71
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Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
You know people wouldn't move all that way and then not try to make it work.
Renting their homes out doesn't necessarily make people feel less settled, nor does a symbolic burning of bridges make them more likely to succeed.
If anything not selling-up makes it harder because there is no cash fund (savings) to fall back on if things get tough. So many people sell up and then 'waste' a good chunk of that capital on moving costs, buying furniture, cars, etc. it's all dead money too because they never get it back.
Keeping on a solid investment isn't such a bad idea IMHO.
The problem with burning bridges is that they're darned expensive things to re-build.
Renting their homes out doesn't necessarily make people feel less settled, nor does a symbolic burning of bridges make them more likely to succeed.
If anything not selling-up makes it harder because there is no cash fund (savings) to fall back on if things get tough. So many people sell up and then 'waste' a good chunk of that capital on moving costs, buying furniture, cars, etc. it's all dead money too because they never get it back.
Keeping on a solid investment isn't such a bad idea IMHO.
The problem with burning bridges is that they're darned expensive things to re-build.
#72
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As far as I'm concerned selling the house would make it easier to move back, as I would have more flexibility over where to live.
Giving up my job was/is a far bigger burning of a bridge.
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Giving up my job was/is a far bigger burning of a bridge.
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#73
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I loved things about the UK but on balance I still wouldn't go back to live there, it’s utterly buggered financially and socially they don’t seem to be making much progress. However if New Zealand doesn’t raise its game or young people are going to find it difficult to continue to reside here in the future as well and if we can’t attract and retain skilled foreign workers (who tend to be ever more transient in nature) then quality of living here will fall even further behind our OECD rivals. Bitter medicine to swallow if things are to get better in a relevant timeframe.
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Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
However if New Zealand doesn’t raise its game or young people are going to find it difficult to continue to reside here in the future as well and if we can’t attract and retain skilled foreign workers (who tend to be ever more transient in nature) then quality of living here will fall even further behind our OECD rivals. Bitter medicine to swallow if things are to get better in a relevant timeframe.
#75
Re: After 5 years, i miss UK
My bridges were pretty much crap anyways so I was happy to set fire to them. So it was REALLY easy for me to do it. I really admire people who make the move who were content in the previous place. That is a ballsy thing to do IMO.