100% Pure NZ, clean and green
Sep 10th 2008, 5:41 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
Thinking about what Bellasmum said I had a Copernic search and found that what I had suspected is probably true - "clean and green NZ" in marketing terms at least extends well beyond tourism and far enough for the Minstry of the Environment to commission research as far back as 2001 on what the "image" is worth to different sectors:
http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/...e-value-aug01/
which the Govt. proclaimed to all who would listen in a press release:
and for greenpeace to get in on the act:
http://www.greenpeace.org/new-zealan...-and--briefing
those of us who love dusty libraries full of periodicals can look at the discussion about "clean & green" and its status in NZ's culture here:
http://researcharchive.lincoln.ac.nz...place_myth.pdf
so it is a "place myth" that helps to sell food, other commodities and tourism and is being used by those who want us to do what they think is right......
http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/...e-value-aug01/
which the Govt. proclaimed to all who would listen in a press release:
Monday, 20 August 2001, 3:58 pm
Press Release: New Zealand Government
New Zealand's 'Clean And Green' Image Worth Billions - Report
New Zealand’s clean green image could be worth billions of dollars in export earnings, Environment Minister Marian Hobbs said today.
"New Zealand's on-going export success depends on us living up to our marketing claims and the perceptions that lie behind people's interest in our products," she added, commenting on a report released today by the Ministry for the Environment. "We must all do more to make a clean, green New Zealand a reality if we are to protect and promote our highly valuable image."
The 144 page report, produced by PA Consulting Group and commissioned by the Ministry for the Environment, looks at three key export sectors and puts a dollar value on New Zealand’s clean green image. Sectors included in the study were tourism and the dairy and organics industries.
The report, based on a series of consumer surveys, found 'that our clean green image does have a significant export value and our environmental image is a key driver of the value of goods and services in the international market place.'
Marian Hobbs said a substantial percentage of New Zealand's income and employment depends on agriculture, horticulture and tourism. They in turn depend, to some extent, on people wanting to buy products produced in a clean and healthy environment.
She described the report as a wake-up call to everyone to do more to protect the environment or face the consequences.
"Overall, if New Zealand were to damage its clean green image, it would have a huge effect on our economy," Marian Hobbs said. "Positioning New Zealand to take maximum advantage of its clean green image and underpinning that image with clean green 'reality', will not only benefit New Zealanders' quality of life, but will have clear, long-term economic benefits."
Press Release: New Zealand Government
New Zealand's 'Clean And Green' Image Worth Billions - Report
New Zealand’s clean green image could be worth billions of dollars in export earnings, Environment Minister Marian Hobbs said today.
"New Zealand's on-going export success depends on us living up to our marketing claims and the perceptions that lie behind people's interest in our products," she added, commenting on a report released today by the Ministry for the Environment. "We must all do more to make a clean, green New Zealand a reality if we are to protect and promote our highly valuable image."
The 144 page report, produced by PA Consulting Group and commissioned by the Ministry for the Environment, looks at three key export sectors and puts a dollar value on New Zealand’s clean green image. Sectors included in the study were tourism and the dairy and organics industries.
The report, based on a series of consumer surveys, found 'that our clean green image does have a significant export value and our environmental image is a key driver of the value of goods and services in the international market place.'
Marian Hobbs said a substantial percentage of New Zealand's income and employment depends on agriculture, horticulture and tourism. They in turn depend, to some extent, on people wanting to buy products produced in a clean and healthy environment.
She described the report as a wake-up call to everyone to do more to protect the environment or face the consequences.
"Overall, if New Zealand were to damage its clean green image, it would have a huge effect on our economy," Marian Hobbs said. "Positioning New Zealand to take maximum advantage of its clean green image and underpinning that image with clean green 'reality', will not only benefit New Zealanders' quality of life, but will have clear, long-term economic benefits."
http://www.greenpeace.org/new-zealan...-and--briefing
those of us who love dusty libraries full of periodicals can look at the discussion about "clean & green" and its status in NZ's culture here:
http://researcharchive.lincoln.ac.nz...place_myth.pdf
so it is a "place myth" that helps to sell food, other commodities and tourism and is being used by those who want us to do what they think is right......
Sep 10th 2008, 6:03 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
you could do a lot more for your credibility if you backed up these kinds of statements with links to the facts, I don't actually know if it is the second most wasteful county on earth, it may well be, you haven't shown me how it is so I am non the wiser,
but what I do know is that there are people living out side of Auckland so the second part of your sentence is an out and out lie therefore it makes me wonder about your claim in the first part of the sentence...
I think there are quite a lot of clean green people in this country [maybe its just where I live] they seem to get seats in Parliament too, but I think the dairy industry may have something to do with the pollution
but what I do know is that there are people living out side of Auckland so the second part of your sentence is an out and out lie therefore it makes me wonder about your claim in the first part of the sentence...
I think there are quite a lot of clean green people in this country [maybe its just where I live] they seem to get seats in Parliament too, but I think the dairy industry may have something to do with the pollution
The Economist reported it.
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
Sep 10th 2008, 6:06 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
The Economist reported it.
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
Sep 10th 2008, 6:10 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
more sheep though 
Sep 10th 2008, 7:14 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
The Economist reported it.
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
Sep 10th 2008, 7:21 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
The Economist reported it.
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
The "second part of my sentence" was simply hyperbole. Lost on some people, but not at all a lie. Take away the major cities (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, etc) and you are left with less than 1 million people in the entire country (a country larger than the UK with approx 60 million people). This to most of us is RELATIVELY no people. And compared with global large cities this is 1/35th of the population of Tokyo, 1/30th of Mexico City, etc, which are single metropolitan areas. And you can whistle if you think I am going to reference these statistics - go do the maths yourself.
Also I have referred to "wasteful" not "pollution".
There is plenty of life out of Auckland, Wellington and Chch [not mentioned at the time of your posting]
So we are very wasteful, that's odd because we are all poverty stricken [according so some on here]
Its not usual to find poverty and waste in the one nation, a population who is wasteful is usually associated with wealth, but not in the case of New Zealand, well, well....
Sep 10th 2008, 7:26 pm
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Sep 10th 2008, 8:48 pm
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Sep 10th 2008, 9:06 pm
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Sep 11th 2008, 7:15 am
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As I said before hyperbole is simply lost on some people. The comparison with more significant global urban areas was to show that there are no people in NZ! A very silly point to argue I'm sure you will agree.
Being a fellow kiwi I can understand the chip on your shoulder being in the South Island and thinking I am calling you insignificant.
Sep 11th 2008, 10:13 pm
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Sep 11th 2008, 10:20 pm
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Re: 100% Pure NZ, clean and green
Oh my god this is where people sometimes come to new countries with little understanding, Foxton beach is a designated road, it even has speed limit signs for those that take notice, it goes back to when the stage coaches used that route to go up and down NZ, so of course it has cars going up and down it like any other road, and it is a bit of what makes NZ special and , how many other counties have roads on the beach !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
