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Old May 13th 2007, 8:47 pm
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My best friend lives in Melborne...I saw pictures of his new house it looked very 70s........not that the USA is that much better...its like living in Little House on the Prairie around here...
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Originally Posted by LouiseD
Sure hope it isn't directed at me because you won't find any posts from me having a dig at the UK.

I like that term - Born again Brit Thanks.

Am quite proud of that name actually because after living here and getting caught up in the hype of doom and gloom UK I am actually a much more positive happy girl ta very much.

My reasons for emigrating since you ask are for a better life. Everyone harps on about how Oz provides a better lifestyle, better quality of life etc. My life before we left was actually quite good - we just got greedy I think and wanted more. Only now do I realise that another country doesn't always give a better quality of life - it's different. Not better. I'm speaking for myself of course - everyone is different. That's why I wouldn't advise anyone not to go because every case is different.

I think it speaks volumes when people do move away moaning about the UK only to return singing it's praises. People obviously see that the grass isn't always greener and return to appreciate life more. That's why it annoys me when people who haven't lived abroad come onto this website and assume that everywhere else is better than the UK. Everywhere else is perfect, wonderful, no crime, no taxes, lovely people. If only.

Only when you have experienced life in another country can you compare and decide what is best for you.



yes true comments............

although i dont think i have openly slagged off the uk, i did moan and was not grateful for what i had at all! i was thinking the grass would be greener in australia!..........

i also thought i could do better, i had the nice home, nice car great jobs etc but wanted a change of lifestyle, i might add that i never ever discovered the uk!!! i have never been to scotland, only been to devon/cornwall once! hardly ever went from the west mids! so i was in NO position to moan about the UK!!

I used australia, thinking this would satisfy my lifestyle issue, when in reality i should have looked closer to home!

Australia has not been all doom and gloom for me, it has been a huge wake up call, iv have learnt many of lifes lessons, i have visited more places in the last year in brisbane and NSW than i have ever done in england all my life! its shameful and i will put that right on my return HOME.

i have absolutely no regrets, despite having some terrible times here in australia, the grass isnt greener here!!!!

@i thought australia would be wonderful
and and in comparison to what i have now (in oz) i had a very worthwhile, rich (not money!!) and colourful life
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Originally Posted by englishrose
hi !
we are returning mid summer.
The tv in canada here is appalling ....the exorcist was on every day the other week at 2 in the afternoon !
They're always advertising viagra,and meds for herpes.
Lovely !
When are you going home?And where to if you dont mind me asking
Maybe I'm reading into your post too much, but please tell me your not coming home from Canada, probably the best country in the world (at least for kids) because the TV is bad, you've had enough of watching the Exorcist and every message seems to be about Viagra or Herpes...

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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
Maybe I'm reading into your post too much, but please tell me your not coming home from Canada, probably the best country in the world (at least for kids) because the TV is bad, you've had enough of watching the Exorcist and every message seems to be about Viagra or Herpes...

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It is only when you are deeply unhappy in a place that these type of 'trivial' things become absolutely intolerable. Hating these things are not the disease just the symptom.
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When you get cabin fever in the winter...TV can be a life saver...its bad enough here...where winters are not too long... ...to have a long cold winter with nothing to take your mind somewhere else must get to you...when you are unhappy little things bug you...
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Maybe I'm reading into your post too much, but please tell me your not coming home from Canada, probably the best country in the world (at least for kids) because the TV is bad, you've had enough of watching the Exorcist and every message seems to be about Viagra or Herpes...

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thats right john,goodbye canada,home of the .....ermm........what exactly is it the home of??
and hello england,land of the living.
if you like canada ,fair enough,we dont ,we are coming home.
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Originally Posted by englishrose
thats right john,goodbye canada,home of the .....ermm........what exactly is it the home of??
and hello england,land of the living.
if you like canada ,fair enough,we dont ,we are coming home.
need to live again
I could have written those words myself! Definitely need to live again, feel like I have entered retirement mode here.
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Originally Posted by englishrose
thats right john,goodbye canada,home of the .....ermm........what exactly is it the home of??
and hello england,land of the living.
if you like canada ,fair enough,we dont ,we are coming home.
need to live again
I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

PS. Anyone else thinking about coming back - Do yourself and your family a favour, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP........

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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

PS. Anyone else thinking about coming back - Do yourself and your family a favour, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP........

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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

PS. Anyone else thinking about coming back - Do yourself and your family a favour, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP........

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I think we can all now safely assume that John doesn't like our green and pleasant land
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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

PS. Anyone else thinking about coming back - Do yourself and your family a favour, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP........

Regards

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I think you need to acquaint yourself with Australia.

An environmental disaster that cannot and should never have been expected to support the population it has and yet just to keep the 'economy' booming we need more people apparently. A timebomb waiting to go off.

A yobbo chav culture. - Not one week goes by in Brisbane where there is not some story on the news about some guy being stabbed or killed in a brawl or attack outside a nightclub or pub. I am just listening to the news and a woman holding a baby has been shot in the stomach in the suburbs of Brisbane.

Bogans might be laughed at on 'Neighbours' but it is bogan culture that is pretty prevalent in most places of Australia (apart from pockets in Melbourne and Sydney) Bogan culture is also celebrated as the 'Aussie battler' etc and in the attitudes pumped out from tabloid TV and media. So not much different from the UK.

Binge drinking. -You need to get out of the Anglo-Celtic cultures if you want to escape binge drinking.

Overpriced everything. -Australia might be big but the majority of it is desert. what we have been growing food on has either been exhausted or rendered unusable or will be in the next ten or so years because of erosion, salinity and other environmental problems. There is not enough water anyway to keep on producing food here anyway especially with a growing population. So food is going to be scarce and will need to be imported. Food prices are predicted to go up by 500% in the next year. This is just the start.

Also because Australia is mostly desert the livable parts are a thin strip on the east and west coast. Livable land is at a premium so prices are going up. In reality every Australian should be living on a postage stamp because environmentally we cannot sustain the McMansion with its 1/4 acre block. Australians should be living in townhouses,or terraces. Cheaper and more environmentally sound to keep cool etc. As the environmental problems increase because we have a government and society that cares more about the quick buck and the economy than solving these problems, the situation can only get worse.

Petrol prices. Well in which universe do you think petrol is going to be cheap? Australia doesn't have a secret supply of oil. We also depend on the dwindling supply from the Middle East.

I think I am trying to say that the problems you mention are part of a bigger problem than just the UK. Overcrowding, lack of livable land and resources, yobbo culture are all part of the world today. You can't escape it. Having been born in Australia and growing up here I had cosy memories of an Australia that was somehow removed from the world's problems. It is a global world. Australia is no stranger to the problems faced in Europe and America.

Maybe the people who are going back to the UK have weighed it up and decided after experiencing Australia that if they are going to face the same problems they faced in the UK, then why not go back and face them with the support of family and friends, familiar surroundings and without the feeling of not 'belonging'?
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Originally Posted by alicecat
I think you need to acquaint yourself with Australia.

An environmental disaster that cannot and should never have been expected to support the population it has and yet just to keep the 'economy' booming we need more people apparently. A timebomb waiting to go off.

A yobbo chav culture. - Not one week goes by in Brisbane where there is not some story on the news about some guy being stabbed or killed in a brawl or attack outside a nightclub or pub. I am just listening to the news and a woman holding a baby has been shot in the stomach in the suburbs of Brisbane.

Bogans might be laughed at on 'Neighbours' but it is bogan culture that is pretty prevalent in most places of Australia (apart from pockets in Melbourne and Sydney) Bogan culture is also celebrated as the 'Aussie battler' etc and in the attitudes pumped out from tabloid TV and media. So not much different from the UK.

Binge drinking. -You need to get out of the Anglo-Celtic cultures if you want to escape binge drinking.

Overpriced everything. -Australia might be big but the majority of it is desert. what we have been growing food on has either been exhausted or rendered unusable or will be in the next ten or so years because of erosion, salinity and other environmental problems. There is not enough water anyway to keep on producing food here anyway especially with a growing population. So food is going to be scarce and will need to be imported. Food prices are predicted to go up by 500% in the next year. This is just the start.

Also because Australia is mostly desert the livable parts are a thin strip on the east and west coast. Livable land is at a premium so prices are going up. In reality every Australian should be living on a postage stamp because environmentally we cannot sustain the McMansion with its 1/4 acre block. Australians should be living in townhouses,or terraces. Cheaper and more environmentally sound to keep cool etc. As the environmental problems increase because we have a government and society that cares more about the quick buck and the economy than solving these problems, the situation can only get worse.

Petrol prices. Well in which universe do you think petrol is going to be cheap? Australia doesn't have a secret supply of oil. We also depend on the dwindling supply from the Middle East.

I think I am trying to say that the problems you mention are part of a bigger problem than just the UK. Overcrowding, lack of livable land and resources, yobbo culture are all part of the world today. You can't escape it. Having been born in Australia and growing up here I had cosy memories of an Australia that was somehow removed from the world's problems. It is a global world. Australia is no stranger to the problems faced in Europe and America.

Maybe the people who are going back to the UK have weighed it up and decided after experiencing Australia that if they are going to face the same problems they faced in the UK, then why not go back and face them with the support of family and friends, familiar surroundings and without the feeling of not 'belonging'?
Excellent post alicecat

I'm sure that you have put into words so many people's thoughts. No bashing of any country, just a great balanced view.
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I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

PS. Anyone else thinking about coming back - Do yourself and your family a favour, GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP........

Regards

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It takes a great deal for me, being a very accepting, placid person, but you John are now beginning to really get up my nose.

Originally Posted by alicecat
I think you need to acquaint yourself with Australia.

An environmental disaster that cannot and should never have been expected to support the population it has and yet just to keep the 'economy' booming we need more people apparently. A timebomb waiting to go off.

A yobbo chav culture. - Not one week goes by in Brisbane where there is not some story on the news about some guy being stabbed or killed in a brawl or attack outside a nightclub or pub. I am just listening to the news and a woman holding a baby has been shot in the stomach in the suburbs of Brisbane.

Bogans might be laughed at on 'Neighbours' but it is bogan culture that is pretty prevalent in most places of Australia (apart from pockets in Melbourne and Sydney) Bogan culture is also celebrated as the 'Aussie battler' etc and in the attitudes pumped out from tabloid TV and media. So not much different from the UK.

Binge drinking. -You need to get out of the Anglo-Celtic cultures if you want to escape binge drinking.

Overpriced everything. -Australia might be big but the majority of it is desert. what we have been growing food on has either been exhausted or rendered unusable or will be in the next ten or so years because of erosion, salinity and other environmental problems. There is not enough water anyway to keep on producing food here anyway especially with a growing population. So food is going to be scarce and will need to be imported. Food prices are predicted to go up by 500% in the next year. This is just the start.

Also because Australia is mostly desert the livable parts are a thin strip on the east and west coast. Livable land is at a premium so prices are going up. In reality every Australian should be living on a postage stamp because environmentally we cannot sustain the McMansion with its 1/4 acre block. Australians should be living in townhouses,or terraces. Cheaper and more environmentally sound to keep cool etc. As the environmental problems increase because we have a government and society that cares more about the quick buck and the economy than solving these problems, the situation can only get worse.

Petrol prices. Well in which universe do you think petrol is going to be cheap? Australia doesn't have a secret supply of oil. We also depend on the dwindling supply from the Middle East.

I think I am trying to say that the problems you mention are part of a bigger problem than just the UK. Overcrowding, lack of livable land and resources, yobbo culture are all part of the world today. You can't escape it. Having been born in Australia and growing up here I had cosy memories of an Australia that was somehow removed from the world's problems. It is a global world. Australia is no stranger to the problems faced in Europe and America.

Maybe the people who are going back to the UK have weighed it up and decided after experiencing Australia that if they are going to face the same problems they faced in the UK, then why not go back and face them with the support of family and friends, familiar surroundings and without the feeling of not 'belonging'?
At last.....someone who sees things the way I do and has had the time and the will to write it down. Excellent post Alicecat.

Since living here in WA, we have seen the price of land go up by 1000% in some places, certainly in the suburb we have built in. In the past 3 years, everything has risen way beyond anything we could have ever imagined. Times are a changing. Migrating to Oz is no longer the dream it once was.
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Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
It takes a great deal for me, being a very accepting, placid person, but you John are now beginning to really get up my nose.


There's nothing like being told what you should and shouldnt like is there

I'm trying to be kind now and say that I think some of these people are caught up in the Daily Mail hype and they really do believe that the UK is the only place which has problems like yob culture, high taxes, crime, immigration etc. I think that they let these things affect their everyday lives too much instead of getting on with enjoying life. Either that or they live in a really horrible place where we wouldn't want to venture in daylight let alone after dark

There are certain things in life that you cant change so instead of ignoring these issues, they think that everyone should leave the country and escape to a "better place".

Which would be fine and dandy if there was a "better place" which suited everyone. Some people do find their Utopia, others just find a place where they feel safer/happier/less stressed/financially better off or whatever.

And that place wont be the same for all of us.
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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
I normally advocate to stay and get your citizenship, if not for your yourself, then do it for your kids, as one day it may be something that they look back on and think I'd like to go back there. However, I'm not, I think you need to come back and re acquaint yourself with the lifestyle here; The UK is dirty, its become a landfill site, a garbage pit that is overcrowded, postage stamp in size bursting at the seems with Binge Drinkers chav, violiant yob culture that has infested the UK, exurbanite prices for things like TV License, Petrol, over priced shoe box size housing, car Tax, Mot every year.

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Where I'm heading back to it isn't like that at all thank you very much. My parents visit us in Canada and while they like the scenery they think it's very much a backward place.

I have a huge house here in Canada, am I happy - no! I was much happier in a smaller home (too much cleaning - lol). I find the cost of living in Canada way higher than the UK anyway so that doesn't wash with me.

I don't need to argue with you anyway, where I live has nothing to do with you. Goodbye!

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