kevin747

Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales.Sure there are some Australian schools which are better than their uk counterparts but believe me.My daughter attends a "good school" and I'm not impressed compared to the state primary she left. Remember there are many ways to statistically analyse things.

Cui bono? Ask an Aussie that. The answer the people who attend the very elite ie the offspring of the political classes.The cheaper schools in the private sector (Catholic Schools) are no better than an average state school in Scotland. Ok the kids might wear nicer uniforms and compared to a lot of Aussie state schools seem great.



Most clever Aussies spend time in the uk or Europe

viviennef

their latin may not be as good but their japanese, i find, is better.

The state schools in my area here are a great deal better than the state school in my area in Wales so demographics I think play a big part. I know many areas of Scotland suffer similarly.

The thing my nephew seems to be missing in his very expensive school are independent analysis skills.

Fleaflyfloflum

Hi Vivienne

I'm a bit confused now. My kids are grown up, but i read this thread in the Australia forum earlier saying the opposite things

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=577781

head scratching now

Anyway, i hope you end up where you want to be.

Nu-Shooz

Tea-Tree oil is good for nits.

viviennef

Different study - there are multiple. The one I was looking at is the PISA one and the other was timss

pisa takes 4500-10000 15 yr olds per country splits into england wales etc
timss is set up to measure us pupils and to use other countries to benchmark

Anyway I am not fixated on this - I am really trying to make the point that there are bad schools in britain too and on an overall I was very surprised to see that the UK education is not as fantastic as many brits like to think. Some schools are, but not all

PISA aims to assess the mathematics and science literacy of students near the end of their compulsory schooling. The intent is to measure the "yield" of education systems--the skills and competencies acquired and applied in real-world contexts by students at age 15. The literacy concept emphasizes the mastery of processes, understanding of concepts, and application of knowledge. PISA draws not only from school curricula but also from learning that may occur outside of school. PISA does not explicitly examine mathematics and science curricula and classroom practices, though it does collect information on school resources.

TIMSS assesses students in fourth and eighth grades and selects whole classrooms of students for this purpose. PISA assesses a sample of 15-year-olds in each school. These students range across several grades in most countries. While about 60 nations participate in each study, PISA focuses on the 30 OECD-member nations, treating the non-OECD jurisdictions separately. Comparing these 30 PISA nations with the 60 TIMSS nations highlights the different makeup of each study. For example: European countries make up about two-thirds of all PISA countries but only one-third of TIMSS countries; and, Middle-Eastern countries comprise about 3 percent of all PISA countries but 25 percent of TIMSS countries. About 25 percent of TIMSS countries also participate in PISA, and about one-half of PISA countries are in TIMSS as well. The U.S. participates in both studies.

meljor

Because Australia is not and never will be, home. I knew the first month I had made a mistake.

meljor

There is nothing practical about living in a country you don't like when everything you do like is on the other side of the planet, an expensive and uncomfortable flight away.

bramblebush

Because I miss family, friends and familiarity.

jonfrank123

Hi Ruby

In an ideal world I'd be out of here tomorrow, but these things are not always possible. Family commitments etc.

Jonathan