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kimberleybell07 Nov 12th 2015 10:53 am

what would you do?
 
I moved to canada in 2009 when i was 11 and now I'm 17. ill be graduating in june and i want to go to college here but that would mean the soonest i can move back to the uk would be in 2019. should i go to college in canada and move back to england in 4 years time or go back after i graduate?

Pulaski Nov 12th 2015 10:58 am

Re: what would you do?
 
What is you motivation for going back?

Do you plan on staying permanently?

If you're staying long term/ permanently then a degree from a British university might be more acceptable, slightly.

You would be classed as an international student in the UK, so it would be expensive, perhaps more expensive than studying Canada. ..... Would you have to factor in the cost of flights to Canada for the holidays if you were studying in the UK?

kimberleybell07 Nov 12th 2015 11:04 am

Re: what would you do?
 
I want to move back permanently. The colleges in the uk don't have the program that i want to do but i don't know if i did it here if it would count for anything in the uk.

Pulaski Nov 12th 2015 11:07 am

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11792881)
I want to move back permanently. The colleges in the uk don't have the program that i want to do but i don't know if i did it here if it would count for anything in the uk.

If there's no program for it in the UK, is there any demand for it, or would be ignored/misunderstood? :unsure:

In your answer you have backed in to my thoughts on why you should study in the UK - the courses are necessarily more "relevant" to the UK job market.

kimberleybell07 Nov 12th 2015 12:48 pm

Re: what would you do?
 
So you think i should move back and see what there is there?

robin1234 Nov 12th 2015 1:18 pm

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11792870)
I moved to canada in 2009 when i was 11 and now I'm 17. ill be graduating in june and i want to go to college here but that would mean the soonest i can move back to the uk would be in 2019. should i go to college in canada and move back to england in 4 years time or go back after i graduate?

How about going to college in Canada, and doing a junior year abroad, either in the UK or some other country? Have you already been accepted at a college, or do you already have a shortlist of colleges you are interested in?

kimberleybell07 Nov 12th 2015 2:57 pm

Re: what would you do?
 
i either want to go to Comosun college for criminal justice or Sheridan college for public and private investigation. my grades aren't good enough to go to university.

Editha Nov 12th 2015 8:07 pm

Re: what would you do?
 
I doubt whether the qualifications you'd get at either of these colleges would be of any use to you in the UK.

SanDiegogirl Nov 13th 2015 6:15 am

Re: what would you do?
 
You are 17. If you returned to the UK now how would you support yourself?

Are you intending to go to college in the UK, where would you live and on what resources?

kimberleybell07 Nov 13th 2015 6:44 am

Re: what would you do?
 
i would be going back in july 2016. i have a part time job now so i could save up until then. my entire family lives in england id always have somewhere to go and i know for a fact my grandparents would want me to stay with them. i haven't decided yet if i want o go to college in canada or the uk yet, as i don't know if college diplomas here count for anything in the uk.

Pulaski Nov 13th 2015 7:10 am

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Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11793468)
.... I don't know if college diplomas here count for anything in the UK.

Not much, if your plan is to settle in the UK permanently then British qualifications would be preferable.

There are financial investigator/ criminal analyst type jobs in the UK, and therefore there must be some sort of diploma qualifications that train people for such jobs. ..... I did find this information however which seems to indicate that careers are available as direct entry into the police force at age 18.

kimberleybell07 Nov 13th 2015 7:34 am

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Is it hard to become a Police Officer in the Uk?

scot47 Nov 13th 2015 7:41 am

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I think you have to be resident for 3 years and either a citizen or eligible for citizenship.

not2old Nov 13th 2015 9:23 am

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11792870)
I moved to canada in 2009 when i was 11 and now I'm 17. ill be graduating in june and i want to go to college here but that would mean the soonest i can move back to the uk would be in 2019. should i go to college in canada and move back to england in 4 years time or go back after i graduate?

As you may be aware or not, that moving back to the UK to start college on your immediate return, [mentioned above] you will be classed as an international student for college fees (as oppose to a local UK resident student), for the reason that you haven't lived in the UK for three years prior to an application to a post secondary program.

On the actual moving back to the UK say next year, have you discussed all of this with your parents & if so, what are they saying about your wanting to do this, in terms of support, finance, safety, suggestions etc?

Then on the basis its a 'go do it', has your extended family in the UK given you their approval for you to move in with them?

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scot47 Nov 13th 2015 11:10 am

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You have to be resident for 3 years before you qualify as a "domestic student".

BritInParis Nov 13th 2015 11:17 am

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11793504)
Is it hard to become a Police Officer in the Uk?

Am I eligible? | Police Recruitment

kimberleybell07 Nov 13th 2015 11:51 am

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11793574)
As you may be aware or not, that moving back to the UK to start college on your immediate return, [mentioned above] you will be classed as an international student for college fees (as oppose to a local UK resident student), for the reason that you haven't lived in the UK for three years prior to an application to a post secondary program.

On the actual moving back to the UK say next year, have you discussed all of this with your parents & if so, what are they saying about your wanting to do this, in terms of support, finance, safety, suggestions etc?

Then on the basis its a 'go do it', has your extended family in the UK given you their approval for you to move in with them?

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I was aware of that id be considered an international student and it isn't an issue.ill be moving back when I'm 18 so my dad can't say anything, and my mother although i don't talk to her she lives in the UK so if push comes to shove i could live with her but that would never happen as i have my family i can stay with. also I'm planning on getting a job so finance will be fine as ill be staying with my grandparents and they would help me if i ever needed help. i know i could stay with them because she told me when she visited for a fortnight a couple weeks ago and she also told me when she visited in November.
my main concern with moving back is if i don't find a college program like the one here that i wanted to do.

quiltman Nov 13th 2015 12:53 pm

Re: what would you do?
 
IIRC the financial investigators in UK are called something like forensic auditors and for this you'll need a degree and lots of experience in auditing. I don't know about the UK equivalent of private investigators - I know they exist - or the legal requirements.
for what it's worth, if you are set on returning, then go back , live with your grandparents, get a job (if you can! difficult at moment) , and after 3 years when you will still only be 21, you can decide whether to join the police or go in some other direction. Only you can make that decision, here on BE we can only offer our opinions and/or experience. you can google for UK college courses to see if any fit your wants , but be aware, if there are any the chances of them being close to your grandparents may be slight!There are courses in criminology - I know because one of my nieces is looking at these, BUT they are all degree courses. You could, I suppose, take A levels once back in UK to see if you can qualify for a UK University, but again, you need the 3 years residence to avoid international student fees. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

quiltman Nov 13th 2015 1:04 pm

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I've just done a bit of googling for you.
1. private investigators need a licence in UK and the conditions are quite strict including the required training.
2. The financial investigators job vacancies all call for years of experience and in most cases a degree , plus knowledge of the various acts relating to the job. Police, local authorities etc.

Any Canadian qualifications are likely to be next to useless in UK as they will not relate to UK laws.
If you are determined enough then you'll come back to UK and start your higher education here. you are young enough to have choices!

Pulaski Nov 13th 2015 1:26 pm

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by quiltman (Post 11793713)
IIRC the financial investigators in UK are called something like forensic auditors ....

There are mutiple different, and completed unrelated, career paths that could be called a "financial investigator - some work for the police, and appear to be trained as a police promotion/specialty career path, then, as quiltman said, there are forensic accountant (perhaps auditor), which is a highly skilled and specialized job, and there are probably some lawyers who do something very similar. Then the banks have investigators, and so, I learned the other day, from someone on BE, that the DWP does, and of course HMC&R does too. I doubt that any of these career paths overlap, but all could reasonably be called "financial investigators".

Novocastrian Nov 13th 2015 7:57 pm

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11793673)

However... Degrees for all new police officers under radical new plans - Telegraph

Editha Nov 13th 2015 8:18 pm

Re: what would you do?
 
From what I observed of the police in Alberta, the criteria for entry can assumed to be lower than the UK.

holly_1948 Nov 14th 2015 2:38 am

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11793868)

Sounds like the OP should get a move on and apply to join the police as soon as turning 18.
Three years documented and vettable history of good behaviour and no serious contra-indictions being crucial.
A policeman can do Open University courses in crime studies on their own time while employed as a way to get ahead. OU degree too for that matter, no longer inexpensive but easily affordable if employed as a policeman.
Of course he will need to pass the physical fitness test.

petrichor Nov 14th 2015 7:51 pm

Re: what would you do?
 

Originally Posted by kimberleybell07 (Post 11793687)
I was aware of that id be considered an international student and it isn't an issue.ill be moving back when I'm 18 so my dad can't say anything, and my mother although i don't talk to her she lives in the UK so if push comes to shove i could live with her but that would never happen as i have my family i can stay with. also I'm planning on getting a job so finance will be fine as ill be staying with my grandparents and they would help me if i ever needed help. i know i could stay with them because she told me when she visited for a fortnight a couple weeks ago and she also told me when she visited in November.
my main concern with moving back is if i don't find a college program like the one here that i wanted to do.

Who will be paying your £15000 or so per year tuition fees?


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