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Lothianlad Mar 23rd 2007 1:10 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 4554048)
Aye I've read about the road signs.

PS You don't have to write in bold...regular will do nicely. :)

OK - it's just that I have a soft voice and am always being told to speak up (bit shy basically). With a lot of people in here I just shouted a wee bit. Sorry. ;)

Big Pete Mar 23rd 2007 1:41 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 4551509)
Remember that a big percentage of these posts are made by people who are bitter because they have been unable to make a decent lives for themselves and need someone or something to blame.

They are also the ones who will be unhappy and bitter wherever they live.

The UK is the same as it has ever been.... a prosperous, first world, modern country.

G

A Very interesting post !!

I am not bitter ! Angry most definately when every day i see stuff which is happening in England . The Country i always loved !!


So i shall firstly reply Honestly to the OP as its there thread and think its decency to respect they require truthful input rather than the thread change to the usual slanging match !! As seems to happen on this subject

England is still a Good Country in general ,and a great place to live if you can tick a few of the boxes you will be fine .

1/ If you smoke , dont mind having to smoke outside in the rain , and if you dont mind paying £ 4 per Pack to the Government ?

2/ If you want to drive a economical little car ? Fuel now at near on £ 1 a Litre , Roads around towns over crowded , Road tax £ 160 a year ?

3/ If you are happy with 8 weeks summer sunshine , and 4 weeks warm muggy cloudy skies . followed by Rain , Clouds and more Rain . Since November 2006 til Early March 2007 we have had ongoing Rains and dull days ! I can recall maybe 2 weekends with sunshine in all that time ?

4/ If you have No objections and have plenty of money to pay for the ever increasing Tax burdens , not on your wages but on virtually evrything you can think of !! ie; My Council rates are now up to £ 1800 a year , Water `Rates now at £ 800 a year , Food prices forever going up average food shop for 2 people here is about £ 85 a week and thats on economy lines ! Asda(Walmart) own brands etc.. Electrics average Quarterly bill £ 200 , ?

5/ If you dont mind living in a highly Multi Racial community , with a further batch from Bulgaria estimated to be flooding in from now onwards , Stretching small towns and villages to bursting point ?

6/ If you intended to start a new business , the overhead costs in Rent and rates for a town small shop ,will set you back some £ 15,000 in Rent and then a further £ 7,500 in Rates , add to this such new Employee Rights that very soon apparently, even Mums whos kids are ill are allowed to take time off and the Employer must pay them ! ( this is i believe is 1 of our wonderful Governments doo lally schemes to get Mums back to work ) . Add to this the absolute mountain of Regulations , thought up monthly in a bid i am convinced to drive small businesses into Bankrupcy ! And you will find that every town is losing the small shops and every town is slowly only having the Big Stores ie; Boots,Woolworths,Marks and Spencers,Tesco etc,. ?

7/ If you like Countryside then we have still some lovely places , Only downside is driving there ! this will be hard as to many cars on the roads make getting anywhere on a sunny day hard going . overcrowding in a lot of places , relying on road systems that havent altered in 50 years in most cases ?

8/ If you want to own your own property then you need to have plenty of money as Englands propertys are amongst the highest in the world and most are crammed in like sardines ?

9/ If you like living in a Country where you have very little rights remainning and are more than happy to do as your told without question , then it will suit ?

10/ If you are extremely poor you will be fine as this present government like to provide for you and if you can manage making a few kids then you will be well supported , housed and the suchlike ?

11/ If you like to have a few Beers then a pint will cost you about £ 2.50 a pint , and are open 24 hours in some towns . So you could mix with the drunks rolling out the clubs and pubs at 3 am very happily ?



Now on the subject of Graylings opinion that we are all leaving UK as we have failled :mad: What a lot of tosh !!

I can only speak for myself of course but i imagine this is also true of a lot of us seeking to get away !

Without being show offy so to speak i am most certainly not a failure !
I am aged 47 have a wonderful wife smashing grown up kids and a grandaughter who can melt you at 5 feet :)
I own 3 businesses 2 web based and 1 in retail . I live in a 5 -6 bedroomed luxury Individually Architecture designed house standing in large grounds in the countryside , with own Golf range and Fishing lake ! Income wise i earn very well ..
I dont blame just the Government although they have just driven us to the point of no return , I dont likewise blame the weather although i have seen the future predictions and England is destined for more rain and cloudy weather due to Global (or Earth Cycle which ever way your views are ) warming ,
The Number of weekends that i have said to Mrs BigPete hey we will shoot to the Beach this weekend only to find its windy, cloudy and naff weather ! And its set to get worse !! How depressing is that ?

So there you have it !! Maybe compared to Grayling i am a Failure ? Its all relative anyways as to the young Couple struggling to pay the mortgage on there 2 up 2 down then maybe i am a Rich Guy , But compared to grayling then yep i am a porper :rofl:

Regarding will i be happy when i move to Spain ? i cant see why not ? Cheaper living expenses ! More Free Sunny days to spend all the extra money :) And when all my Properties Businesses and things are sold and i never need to work again !! :thumbsup: The Quality Villa with them sea views and the Boat sat in the marina .. Dont feel i will be to Bitter :rofl:

fishfinger Mar 23rd 2007 1:58 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 4554180)
A Very interesting post !!

I am not bitter ! Angry most definately when every day i see stuff which is happening in England . The Country i always loved !!


So i shall firstly reply Honestly to the OP as its there thread and think its decency to respect they require truthful input rather than the thread change to the usual slanging match !! As seems to happen on this subject

England is still a Good Country in general ,and a great place to live if you can tick a few of the boxes you will be fine .

1/ If you smoke , dont mind having to smoke outside in the rain , and if you dont mind paying £ 4 per Pack to the Government ?

2/ If you want to drive a economical little car ? Fuel now at near on £ 1 a Litre , Roads around towns over crowded , Road tax £ 160 a year ?

3/ If you are happy with 8 weeks summer sunshine , and 4 weeks warm muggy cloudy skies . followed by Rain , Clouds and more Rain . Since November 2006 til Early March 2007 we have had ongoing Rains and dull days ! I can recall maybe 2 weekends with sunshine in all that time ?

4/ If you have No objections and have plenty of money to pay for the ever increasing Tax burdens , not on your wages but on virtually evrything you can think of !! ie; My Council rates are now up to £ 1800 a year , Water `Rates now at £ 800 a year , Food prices forever going up average food shop for 2 people here is about £ 85 a week and thats on economy lines ! Asda(Walmart) own brands etc.. Electrics average Quarterly bill £ 200 , ?

5/ If you dont mind living in a highly Multi Racial community , with a further batch from Bulgaria estimated to be flooding in from now onwards , Stretching small towns and villages to bursting point ?

6/ If you intended to start a new business , the overhead costs in Rent and rates for a town small shop ,will set you back some £ 15,000 in Rent and then a further £ 7,500 in Rates , add to this such new Employee Rights that very soon apparently, even Mums whos kids are ill are allowed to take time off and the Employer must pay them ! ( this is i believe is 1 of our wonderful Governments doo lally schemes to get Mums back to work ) . Add to this the absolute mountain of Regulations , thought up monthly in a bid i am convinced to drive small businesses into Bankrupcy ! And you will find that every town is losing the small shops and every town is slowly only having the Big Stores ie; Boots,Woolworths,Marks and Spencers,Tesco etc,. ?

7/ If you like Countryside then we have still some lovely places , Only downside is driving there ! this will be hard as to many cars on the roads make getting anywhere on a sunny day hard going . overcrowding in a lot of places , relying on road systems that havent altered in 50 years in most cases ?

8/ If you want to own your own property then you need to have plenty of money as Englands propertys are amongst the highest in the world and most are crammed in like sardines ?

9/ If you like living in a Country where you have very little rights remainning and are more than happy to do as your told without question , then it will suit ?

10/ If you are extremely poor you will be fine as this present government like to provide for you and if you can manage making a few kids then you will be well supported , housed and the suchlike ?

11/ If you like to have a few Beers then a pint will cost you about £ 2.50 a pint , and are open 24 hours in some towns . So you could mix with the drunks rolling out the clubs and pubs at 3 am very happily ?



Now on the subject of Graylings opinion that we are all leaving UK as we have failled :mad: What a lot of tosh !!

I can only speak for myself of course but i imagine this is also true of a lot of us seeking to get away !

Without being show offy so to speak i am most certainly not a failure !
I am aged 47 have a wonderful wife smashing grown up kids and a grandaughter who can melt you at 5 feet :)
I own 3 businesses 2 web based and 1 in retail . I live in a 5 -6 bedroomed luxury Individually Architecture designed house standing in large grounds in the countryside , with own Golf range and Fishing lake ! Income wise i earn very well ..
I dont blame just the Government although they have just driven us to the point of no return , I dont likewise blame the weather although i have seen the future predictions and England is destined for more rain and cloudy weather due to Global (or Earth Cycle which ever way your views are ) warming ,
The Number of weekends that i have said to Mrs BigPete hey we will shoot to the Beach this weekend only to find its windy, cloudy and naff weather ! And its set to get worse !! How depressing is that ?

So there you have it !! Maybe compared to Grayling i am a Failure ? Its all relative anyways as to the young Couple struggling to pay the mortgage on there 2 up 2 down then maybe i am a Rich Guy , But compared to grayling then yep i am a porper :rofl:

Regarding will i be happy when i move to Spain ? i cant see why not ? Cheaper living expenses ! More Free Sunny days to spend all the extra money :) And when all my Properties Businesses and things are sold and i never need to work again !! :thumbsup: The Quality Villa with them sea views and the Boat sat in the marina .. Dont feel i will be to Bitter :rofl:

I'm bored.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Big Pete Mar 23rd 2007 2:42 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by fishfinger (Post 4554236)
I'm bored.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Shouldnt have read it then , should you ? That will teach ya next time !!:rofl:

fishfinger Mar 23rd 2007 2:52 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 4554360)
Shouldnt have read it then , should you ? That will teach ya next time !!:rofl:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz off to watch the new James Bond, he's much sexier!

Big Pete Mar 23rd 2007 2:53 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by fishfinger (Post 4554379)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz off to watch the new James Bond, he's much sexier!

No he aint , i am far better :)

fishfinger Mar 23rd 2007 3:03 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 4554382)
No he aint , i am far better :)

You're too old Pete, sorry.

starlet Mar 23rd 2007 4:27 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 4551509)
Remember that a big percentage of these posts are made by people who are bitter because they have been unable to make a decent lives for themselves and need someone or something to blame.

They are also the ones who will be unhappy and bitter wherever they live.

The UK is the same as it has ever been.... a prosperous, first world, modern country.

G

:) Great Post

makes sense about the bitter part!

I cant wait to go back and see everyone :)

MrsB Mar 23rd 2007 6:14 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by starlet (Post 4550993)
Me and my family were planning on returning to the UK for two weeks and i just want to know what to expect.
I remember all the chavs and vandalizing and the small houses and there have been quite a few posts saying England has changed into a broken down country. But i just want to hear a few stories of people going back and liking it, then returning. Or maybe you hated it? :confused:
Thanks.


(I realise i posted this thread twice) :unsure:

I went back for 5 weeks December 2005 - an 2006. Loved every minute of it! Loved all the Xmas atmosphere - even the grey weather. Only downside was having to come back to Oz. Managed to get through the next year in Oz, and now I'm off again soon for another 3 weeks - hopefully that will get me through till we can leave Oz for good.

I didn't see any chavs or hoodies - then again I don't tend to go to places where they hang out!!!

It's all good!!

Grayling Mar 23rd 2007 8:42 pm

Re: What to expect!
 
Why do you have to hate a country in order to go and live elsewhere?:confused:

I have never understood that.

G

Grayling Mar 23rd 2007 8:45 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 4553941)
If he loves the place so much why is he emigrating to Australia ? :confused:

Because I can:)

For a change.

Because I have my family (children) there.

I am not going to turn my back on my own country though.

I will live in both as and when it suits me:)

G

Grayling Mar 23rd 2007 8:46 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 4554033)
Increasingly there are signs in Polish on the roads in the UK now - giving distances in Kms.! :D And in some shops there are notices in Polish - like I saw on the bakery department at Tesco.

A bit like the japanese ones in Australia then? or vietnamese....or greek.....

Nomore Mar 23rd 2007 11:39 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 4554956)
Because I can:)

For a change.

Because I have my family (children) there.

I am not going to turn my back on my own country though.

I will live in both as and when it suits me:)

G

Good for you G,;)

Thats the way to go.

We do it cause we can..why this annoys people is :confused:

Nomore Mar 23rd 2007 11:41 pm

Re: What to expect!
 

Originally Posted by fishfinger (Post 4554236)
I'm bored.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yes you are quite right there about Big Pete:lol: some people are just so:zzz: :zzz:

Mercedes Mar 23rd 2007 11:49 pm

Re: What to expect!
 
You will have to go back and make your own judgements and decide if you want to live back there. Some people love it and it is the best thing they have done, others are used to a different lifestyle now and it doesn't suit. It all depends on what is important to you.



Originally Posted by starlet (Post 4550993)
Me and my family were planning on returning to the UK for two weeks and i just want to know what to expect.
I remember all the chavs and vandalizing and the small houses and there have been quite a few posts saying England has changed into a broken down country. But i just want to hear a few stories of people going back and liking it, then returning. Or maybe you hated it? :confused:
Thanks.


(I realise i posted this thread twice) :unsure:



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