uk_grenada

The amounts a bit more, it’s 7 days, after you got sick and it only gets paid if you are eligible which can be avoided by many employers for people on zero hours contracts plus some other getouts

https://www.gov.uk/calculate-statutory-sick-pay

shaam

Thanks for the replies Guys !

Appreciate it !

prospect

This is a bit of a hot topic here for us. Employment contract for my partner states that pay will be docked for the first three years of employment ... you get more % back with each year of service with 100% back at 3 years.

cyrian

In the UK you can have two types of sick pay - Statutory Sick Pay and Company Sick Pay.
You cannot compare China and the UK because the cultures are different.
The 3 day waiting period (no pay) is to cut down on sickies - people claiming to be ill when they aren't.
In my company we mirrored the state system and made no payments for the first 3 days of absence.
Our absence record reduced by over 60%.
Like many things in our society, the good were penalised by the actions of the not-so-good.

mikelincs

Where I worked in the NHS the three days rule applied, but you were still paid for that if you ere salaried, Fourth day you could send in self certificate, obtained fro your GP surgery, and after 7 days you needed a medical cert. HOWEVER, once you had 7 days self certificated then you needed a GP cert from day 1, again to reduce the 'throwing a sickie' we did, in fact have one person who was taking a day off, often on a Monday, after a heavy weekend, he did go down the warnings route, and was referred to counselling, eventually he left, but then that was due to him bringing a 'guest' into the hospital and taking them onto the roof to see the virw, Security didn't like that and reported him, both, at the time, were a little worse for wear from drinking, he was advised to find another job.

spouse of scouse

I understand what you're saying and can see the sense in it. On the other hand, how much of that 60% reduction would be people who are genuinely ill coming to work because they can't afford to lose 1 - 3 days pay?

cyrian

The last line of my post addresses that.
As Mikelincs has indicated, there is a cultural problem in the UK where just taking a day off when you feel like it is not seen as dishonest.
I considered it to be theft.
I employed a part time worker who also worked part time for the local Council.
On at least one occasion she was at work for me on the same days that she was off sick at the Council - because they paid her for those days and we didn't.
She was not off work because she was unwell but because she knew that she would be paid for 6 weeks illness related absence a year and she took that every year.
She was directly responsible for such sick leave being reduced for the entire workforce.

uk_grenada

spouse of scouse

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but this staff member was really only responsible for her own behaviour. It was your company that took the decision to reduce sick leave entitlements for the entire workforce, based on the actions of one. Maybe it would have been fairer to just address the issue with the one you felt was taking advantage.

shaam

indeed seems like a very HOT topic ..

My friend was seriously sick for 5 days the week before, Tuesday to Sunday with Friday being his day off. He was given a doctors note for sick leave too but the company is not willing to pay him on the days he took sick leaves.

az2014

Without knowing what it says in his contract its impossible to comment.

durham_lad

cyrian

Your friend would have been entitled to Statutory sick pay from the 4th day of absence.
If his employers did not pay this then I would suspect that he is on a zero-hours contract i.e. he has no contractual hours to be paid.
Zero hours contracts are good for the likes of students who need flexibility of work but they are mis-used by many employers to deny their employees certain rights.
This would include sick pay; holiday pay and redundancy pay.
If your friend is contracted to work for zero hours in any day then he is not entitled to sick pay.
Advise your friend to look for another job.

yellowroom

that's not true, GPs will issue sick notes if you are ill for more than 7 days and they consider you need time of work to recover, regardless of your occupation. It's no more work for them to print one off and sign it as it is for them to print off the prescription and sign it.