Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
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Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
I know the uk border protection has a bad reputation but hadn't experienced it myself till the other day. It would be an under statement to say how shocked I was at the level of abuse hurled at me by the border agent... All of it had nothing to do with border protection and all to do with personal insults and abuse... 3 days later I'm actually still stunned by it.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
I know the uk border protection has a bad reputation but hadn't experienced it myself till the other day. It would be an under statement to say how shocked I was at the level of abuse hurled at me by the border agent... All of it had nothing to do with border protection and all to do with personal insults and abuse... 3 days later I'm actually still stunned by it.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
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OP, if you wouldn't mind providing the details of the situation so it may help others avoid it? thanks
It would be an under statement to say how shocked I was at the level of abuse hurled at me by the border agent... All of it had nothing to do with border protection and all to do with personal insults and abuse... 3 days later I'm actually still stunned by it.
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
I don't understand how you can really get in a dispute with a UK border agent while travelling on a UK passport. They can't refuse you entry.
Did they ask overly personal questions and it got heated from there?
Were you entering the country with a non-UK spouse?
Did they have any cause to suspect you of illicit behaviour, eg you share a name with someone involved in terrorist activity or were flying back from somewhere like Syria?
Did they ask overly personal questions and it got heated from there?
Were you entering the country with a non-UK spouse?
Did they have any cause to suspect you of illicit behaviour, eg you share a name with someone involved in terrorist activity or were flying back from somewhere like Syria?
Last edited by MoshiMoshi; Oct 18th 2014 at 9:07 am.
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
I don't understand how you can really get in a dispute with a UK border agent while travelling on a UK passport. They can't refuse you entry.
Did they ask overly personal questions and it got heated from there?
Were you entering the country with a non-UK spouse?
Did they have any cause to suspect you of illicit behaviour, eg you share a name with someone involved in terrorist activity or were flying back from somewhere like Syria?
Did they ask overly personal questions and it got heated from there?
Were you entering the country with a non-UK spouse?
Did they have any cause to suspect you of illicit behaviour, eg you share a name with someone involved in terrorist activity or were flying back from somewhere like Syria?
Last edited by formula; Oct 18th 2014 at 9:49 am.
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
Before this goes off the point of what I'm wanting to find... All I'm looking for is citizen advice sites where one can get information regarding their rights with respect to EU travel so I can be better prepared for the all too common abuse shovelled out by border guards in the UK. I've tried the gov sites and they for the most part appear to be written to frustrate and hinder than anything else.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.
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post 7
https://www.gov.uk/civil-legal-advice
List of Free Legal Advice Clinics
http://www.barprobono.org.uk/
Advice
https://www.gov.uk/civil-legal-advice
List of Free Legal Advice Clinics
http://www.barprobono.org.uk/
Advice
Last edited by not2old; Oct 18th 2014 at 10:20 am.
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
Before this goes off the point of what I'm wanting to find... All I'm looking for is citizen advice sites where one can get information regarding their rights with respect to EU travel so I can be better prepared for the all too common abuse shovelled out by border guards in the UK. I've tried the gov sites and they for the most part appear to be written to frustrate and hinder than anything else.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.
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post # 8 provided you with some leads as requested.
OP, you arrived on a UK passport & was given a hard time
Please share the details with us ?
OP, you arrived on a UK passport & was given a hard time
Please share the details with us ?
Last edited by not2old; Oct 18th 2014 at 10:43 am.
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Would certainly be good to knwo what abuse was dished out. I've never had a problem entering the UK either, and the only people I have seen/heard of experiencing problems are pnes who are abusive to the immigration officials. I can't imagine why a UK citizen on a UK passport would have an issue.......
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Re: Uk Citizen Rights At Border Control
I know the uk border protection has a bad reputation but hadn't experienced it myself till the other day. It would be an under statement to say how shocked I was at the level of abuse hurled at me by the border agent... All of it had nothing to do with border protection and all to do with personal insults and abuse... 3 days later I'm actually still stunned by it.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
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I have been through UK border (sp) control probably at least 200 times and not only have I never had abuse even tossed in my general direction (never mind hurled), I have never seen it hurled at any of the other 100's of travellers on UK and non-UK passports on each occasion. So, that's a big fat zero out of 200,000 traveller contacts with UK border control that I have seen over the years.
So I am really curious to hear the facts, too ...
So I am really curious to hear the facts, too ...
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I know the uk border protection has a bad reputation but hadn't experienced it myself till the other day. It would be an under statement to say how shocked I was at the level of abuse hurled at me by the border agent... All of it had nothing to do with border protection and all to do with personal insults and abuse... 3 days later I'm actually still stunned by it.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
For future travel I am determined to be well schooled on how to fight back against such idiots. Can anyone point me to a site(s), other than uk government propaganda, that outlines EU rights of travel and how to protect ourselves against abusive agents.
The abuse was so bad I am planning on talking to a lawyer next week.
Before this goes off the point of what I'm wanting to find... All I'm looking for is citizen advice sites where one can get information regarding their rights with respect to EU travel so I can be better prepared for the all too common abuse shovelled out by border guards in the UK. I've tried the gov sites and they for the most part appear to be written to frustrate and hinder than anything else.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.
I'm happy to pay a lawyer £175/hour to bring a professional misconduct civil suit against the agent. I'm not prepared to pay £175 for advice on how to deal with boarder agents when I approach their booth.