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KayBay Nov 23rd 2012 3:08 pm

Taxes etc
 
I did not tell anyone that I'm aware of in the UK government that I was leaving the UK 7 years ago with my american husband. Now I'm looking to move back, should I have been paying UK taxes? Will I face penalties when returning? Do I have to inform anyone that I'm coming back if I haven't told them I left in the first place?

UK IFA Nov 23rd 2012 10:51 pm

Re: Taxes etc
 
I guess you would have only needed to complete a tax return if you needed to be assessed under self assessment, which means you are either self employed or a higher rate tax payer with savings/ investments.

If you had no Uk taxable income I can see no reason as to why you should have completed a return.

As far as entry into the UK, when we returned from Canada we just walked in. No questions were asked.

But there are probably people on the forum who have done it more recently than myself.

Regards

nun Nov 24th 2012 8:45 am

Re: Taxes etc
 

Originally Posted by KayBay (Post 10398680)
I did not tell anyone that I'm aware of in the UK government that I was leaving the UK 7 years ago with my american husband. Now I'm looking to move back, should I have been paying UK taxes? Will I face penalties when returning? Do I have to inform anyone that I'm coming back if I haven't told them I left in the first place?

Strictly you should have filled out a P85 when you left to let HMRC know of your new status.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/p85.pdf

You have not given enough information to answer your question, but unless you had income from UK sources or investments in the UK and capital gains you probably don't owe any UK tax.

When you come back you should let the local HMRC office know to see if you need to do a self assessment for tax on any foreign income and investments. If you are going to work in the UK your employer will give you the forms to get you started on PAYE again.

The bigger issues will be for your US husband as you will need to fulfill the financial requirements to get him a visa and then he will have to comply with US as well as UK taxation. Of course if you took US citizenship you will also have to comply with US taxation, unless you expatriate and file an 8854

If you have a green card you need to understand the consequences of leaving the US as it will eventually be revoked if you are not living in the US. If you want to severe your contacts with the US....and this will make your taxes and financial life a lot simpler....you need to make sure you file a I-407 and then an 8833 if you have lived in the US for 8 years out of the last 15. If you do have green card it sounds as if you don't have to file an 8833, but you might still be liable to US tax as a non-resident alien if you have US income or investments.

KayBay Nov 24th 2012 9:46 am

Re: Taxes etc
 

Originally Posted by nun (Post 10399600)
Strictly you should have filled out a P85 when you left to let HMRC know of your new status.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/p85.pdf

You have not given enough information to answer your question, but unless you had income from UK sources or investments in the UK and capital gains you probably don't owe any UK tax.

When you come back you should let the local HMRC office know to see if you need to do a self assessment for tax on any foreign income and investments. If you are going to work in the UK your employer will give you the forms to get you started on PAYE again.

The bigger issues will be for your US husband as you will need to fulfill the financial requirements to get him a visa and then he will have to comply with US as well as UK taxation. Of course if you took US citizenship you will also have to comply with US taxation, unless you expatriate and file an 8854

If you have a green card you need to understand the consequences of leaving the US as it will eventually be revoked if you are not living in the US. If you want to severe your contacts with the US....and this will make your taxes and financial life a lot simpler....you need to make sure you file a I-407 and then an 8833 if you have lived in the US for 8 years out of the last 15. If you do have green card it sounds as if you don't have to file an 8833, but you might still be liable to US tax as a non-resident alien if you have US income or investments.

Should have mentioned that my american husband is now my ex. Don't see myself ever coming back here to live. Thanks for the info.

nun Nov 24th 2012 11:39 am

Re: Taxes etc
 

Originally Posted by KayBay (Post 10399630)
Should have mentioned that my american husband is now my ex. Don't see myself ever coming back here to live. Thanks for the info.

OK so what is your US visa/citizenship status? and do you have pensions, investments money etc in the US?

KayBay Nov 25th 2012 4:20 am

Re: Taxes etc
 

Originally Posted by nun (Post 10399721)
OK so what is your US visa/citizenship status? and do you have pensions, investments money etc in the US?

I am a permanent resident, not a citizen. I have a mortgage on a townhome and have under $3,000 in pension and stocks saved.


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