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Re: Stuck in Canada
I agree with Bevm, IMO, the school my children were in was a lot better than where they are now. Having said that it was a village school with a very good reputation. The classes were not that much bigger than they are now. They had a lot more school trips to places, since being here my daughter has had one trip - around the housing estate:eek:
Also, in the Uk i liked the idea that they stay in the same class, therefore building really strong relationships with their friends. All in all, it really depends on where you came from in the UK, if you lived in an inner city with kids in a not so flourishing school, i would understand. IMO, thats the whole thing that sucessful/unsucessful immigration works to (if that makes sense):blink: |
Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Bevm
(Post 8132940)
Are your children in French immersion or English with core French. In many places French immersion has seriously damaged the content in the English streams, and I happen to have problems with the whole concept of French immersion. Whole other subject.
o've experiences both systems with their kids can chip in. Bev |
Re: Stuck in Canada
I don't have experience of the UK system, but one of things I like about schooling in my part of BC is that public schools can be specialized. My daughter goes to a fine arts elementary with music lessons, dance (in a proper dance studio) art classes etc are all part of the curriculum. She's one of only 15 kids in her kindergarten class. There's a new elmentary opening that's supposed to be focussed on nature/science on Burnaby mountain. I like that school boards have the freedom to do that. And of course, there's french immersion...
I know from talking to the rellies in Scotland they don't have a similar concept there. That's it. That's all I got. |
Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Bevm
(Post 8132940)
I'm not as convinced as many that class size is crucial. I was mostly taught in large classes and didn't suffer from it. Better chance to read in the back row.:D going from a class of 32 to a class of 19 must surely only be a positive thing. the teacher has more time and ability to instruct, mentor and observe children closely. I found there was a lot of redundancy and repetition in the Canadian syllabus and less striving for excellence in academics, which I do see in some schools here. Yes and no. There are acadamies, lots of them in my area, sports, music and the arts, science, religious and french emmersion. There is though the repitition you mention, particularly in maths and english. I think the lack of something like the exams here and the SATs in the States is a real problem. There should be a national exam. Everyone complains here about Offsteds etc, but Canadian schools have very little outside supervision and can get away with atrocious sloppiness. Apart from sports, there seem to be less extra curricular activities and trips. Yes and no again. You have to be careful, the school district you are in and the principle make all the difference, you cannot count on the city or province. my daughter has had at least double the number of trips here than in the UK, and this is not just because she is older now. All she did really at home was swimming, still the case according to friends. Now, she has swimming, the ski club, skating, different museums and librarys and last week one of the odd ones, a trip to the recycling plant!! Perhaps other people here who've experiences both systems with their kids can chip in. Bev |
Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Mistress Miggins
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you get shit days wherever you go eh Ann? But do you know what, I'll always feel that "is that the right decision feeling" wherever I chose to be in life from here on. But for now, the OH won't move back to the UK until there is work there for him and the house is sold, so I think the lesser of the two evils is to live in the one country and keep the family together, rather than have it fragmented and still not happy!!!!!!! Bloody life is hard eh...............:o
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Re: Stuck in Canada
Rae, definitely it depends a lot on location, but in the UK as much as anywhere else. For example, I'll take a class of 30 with a really good teacher over a class of 15 with a bad one. Anyday, anywhere.
I was just trying to point out that Canada isn't inevitably a better place to raise and educate kids. Everyone has to assess it for themselves, their situation, and their children. Bev :) |
Re: Stuck in Canada
My kids were quite bored at their Canadian school.....the only subject that tested them was maths.......And as for any kind of sport/PE it was nearly non existent.
Alot of the Uk senior schools are now specialising in one particular area eg Engineering/sports/ dance and performing arts etc... and alot are achieving college status, and its not just in the good areas either. |
Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
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Hi Jacky - join the medicated club!! I am having trouble leaving the house at the moment - but hopefully will be returning to the Uk in April - pm me if you want a chat or meet up!
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Re: Stuck in Canada
HI I started this thread and am still in a turmoil, should we stay, should we go!!!! Well the thread underneath this on the forum is Chester and that is where we were originally from is it a sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
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Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Londonuck
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Wow 4bells im surprised! I remember you going over there.
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Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Bevm
(Post 8132940)
Perhaps other people here who've experiences both systems with their kids can chip in.
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Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by Bevm
(Post 8135482)
Rae, definitely it depends a lot on location, but in the UK as much as anywhere else. For example, I'll take a class of 30 with a really good teacher over a class of 15 with a bad one. Anyday, anywhere.
I was just trying to point out that Canada isn't inevitably a better place to raise and educate kids. Everyone has to assess it for themselves, their situation, and their children. Bev :) i would agree that it is not inevitably better, but i think the odds are stacked in your favour here. especially if you are someone from a working class background, from a rundown area, where the choice and standard on offer were poor. |
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From a boring statistical point of view, Education in Canada is demonstrably better than the UK in terms of the end result literacy, numeracy and scientific understanding in international comparisons. I expect the level of bilingual fluency in Canada is much higher too...not much demand for french immersion in the UK that Im aware off (my kids are in FI here).
Thats not to say that some UK teaching is not outstanding, and some Canadian teaching dismal, but when you look at the end results on a large scale, Canada does better. Fact. Is raising your kids in the UK comparable with raising them in Mogadishu, obviously not. Most of the people here commenting one way or the other were educated in the UK, and we mostly did OK...well enough to meet another countries immigration criteria anyway! |
Re: Stuck in Canada
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 8136341)
From a boring statistical point of view, Education in Canada is demonstrably better than the UK in terms of the end result literacy
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Re: Stuck in Canada
If you want to compare literacy rates it's a wash.
Canada, UK, and US all are rated at 99% Australia is at 98%. We are in a nice area for school, but seeing I've had kids in this school district for the last 17 years I have seen the standards of what is taught and how it's taught fall. Yet on paper the results have gone up. Rote teaching to tests is now rampant as is holding kids back. I still think the small village school my oldest Ds attended and some friends kids still attend is much better. |
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