Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
May 18th 2008, 2:37 am
#31
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
The old demon drink can be a good thing over here but also a bad.
In the same vein,me and the breadknife looked at each other on tuesday night just there,and said look at us both drinking,being miserable,and it's a weekday.
We never were as bad as that in the UK,
We find ourselves drinking to masquerade the miserable lives we have over here.
Our lives would normally be full of activity or just happy to be where we were,which was home.
I feel for all you people who can't just pack up and go,i ask myself sometimes,why is it so difficult to leave this place.
In the same vein,me and the breadknife looked at each other on tuesday night just there,and said look at us both drinking,being miserable,and it's a weekday.
We never were as bad as that in the UK,
We find ourselves drinking to masquerade the miserable lives we have over here.
Our lives would normally be full of activity or just happy to be where we were,which was home.
I feel for all you people who can't just pack up and go,i ask myself sometimes,why is it so difficult to leave this place.
My vice is chocolate - do you think they have a chocoholics anonymous chapter anywhere??
May 18th 2008, 2:50 am
#32
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
Mind you when we first went to oz I used to go down to St GG house and we used to have a few bottles of the red stuffThe old demon drink can be a good thing over here but also a bad.
In the same vein,me and the breadknife looked at each other on tuesday night just there,and said look at us both drinking,being miserable,and it's a weekday.
We never were as bad as that in the UK,
We find ourselves drinking to masquerade the miserable lives we have over here.
Our lives would normally be full of activity or just happy to be where we were,which was home.
I feel for all you people who can't just pack up and go,i ask myself sometimes,why is it so difficult to leave this place.
In the same vein,me and the breadknife looked at each other on tuesday night just there,and said look at us both drinking,being miserable,and it's a weekday.
We never were as bad as that in the UK,
We find ourselves drinking to masquerade the miserable lives we have over here.
Our lives would normally be full of activity or just happy to be where we were,which was home.
I feel for all you people who can't just pack up and go,i ask myself sometimes,why is it so difficult to leave this place.
May 18th 2008, 4:23 am
#33
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
Yup, sometimes think there is a darned sight more humour (ok so probably a bit black) on this forum than on many of the others! You've got to have a good giggle every now and again or you would go stark staring bonkers!!!
May 18th 2008, 6:48 am
#34
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
What is the connection between depression and alcohol?
We know that there is a connection - self-harm and suicide are much more common in people with alcohol problems. It seems that it can work in two ways.
If we drink too much, too regularly, we are more likely to become depressed.
Regular drinking can leave us tired and depressed. There is evidence that alcohol changes the chemistry of the brain itself and that this increases the risk of depression.
Hangovers create a cycle of waking up feeling ill, anxious, jittery and guilty.
Regular drinking can make life depressing - family arguments, poor work, unreliable memory and sexual problems.
If we drink alcohol to relieve anxiety or depression, we will become more depressed
Alcohol helps us to forget our problems for a while. It can help us to relax and overcome any shyness. It can make talking easier and more fun, whether in the pub, a club or at a party. It is a very effective way of feeling better for a few hours.
If you are depressed and lacking in energy, it can be tempting to use alcohol to help you keep going and cope with life. The problem is that it is easy to slip into drinking regularly, using it like a medication.The benefits soon wear off, the drinking becomes part of a routine, and you have to keep drinking more to get the same effect.
There is evidence that, although many heavy drinkers feel depressed when they are drinking, most will feel better within a few weeks of stopping. So, it is usually best to tackle the alcohol first, and then consider dealing with the depression if it has not lifted after a few weeks.
After a few alcohol-free weeks, you will probably feel fitter and less depressed. Friends and family may find you easier to get on with. If your feelings of depression lift, this strongly suggests that they were caused by the drinking.
If the depression is still with you after four weeks of not drinking, talk to your GP or about further help. It may be useful to talk about your feelings, particularly if your depression seems linked to relationship problems, unemployment, divorce, bereavement or some other loss. Counselling may be helpful.
If the depression does not lift and is particularly severe, your general practitioner may recommend a talking treatment called 'cognitive psychotherapy' or suggest anti-depressant medication. In either case, you will need to stay away from alcohol and go on with the treatment for several months. There are some medications used to reduce the craving for alcohol, but these are usually only prescribed by a specialist.
Treatment for both alcohol problems and depression can be very successful. It helps to regularly see someone you can trust, either your own doctor, counsellor or a specialist psychiatrist. Changing our habits and style of life is always a challenge and takes time to achieve
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG. Moderation is the key 
We know that there is a connection - self-harm and suicide are much more common in people with alcohol problems. It seems that it can work in two ways.
If we drink too much, too regularly, we are more likely to become depressed.
Regular drinking can leave us tired and depressed. There is evidence that alcohol changes the chemistry of the brain itself and that this increases the risk of depression.
Hangovers create a cycle of waking up feeling ill, anxious, jittery and guilty.
Regular drinking can make life depressing - family arguments, poor work, unreliable memory and sexual problems.
If we drink alcohol to relieve anxiety or depression, we will become more depressed
Alcohol helps us to forget our problems for a while. It can help us to relax and overcome any shyness. It can make talking easier and more fun, whether in the pub, a club or at a party. It is a very effective way of feeling better for a few hours.
If you are depressed and lacking in energy, it can be tempting to use alcohol to help you keep going and cope with life. The problem is that it is easy to slip into drinking regularly, using it like a medication.The benefits soon wear off, the drinking becomes part of a routine, and you have to keep drinking more to get the same effect.
There is evidence that, although many heavy drinkers feel depressed when they are drinking, most will feel better within a few weeks of stopping. So, it is usually best to tackle the alcohol first, and then consider dealing with the depression if it has not lifted after a few weeks.
After a few alcohol-free weeks, you will probably feel fitter and less depressed. Friends and family may find you easier to get on with. If your feelings of depression lift, this strongly suggests that they were caused by the drinking.
If the depression is still with you after four weeks of not drinking, talk to your GP or about further help. It may be useful to talk about your feelings, particularly if your depression seems linked to relationship problems, unemployment, divorce, bereavement or some other loss. Counselling may be helpful.
If the depression does not lift and is particularly severe, your general practitioner may recommend a talking treatment called 'cognitive psychotherapy' or suggest anti-depressant medication. In either case, you will need to stay away from alcohol and go on with the treatment for several months. There are some medications used to reduce the craving for alcohol, but these are usually only prescribed by a specialist.
Treatment for both alcohol problems and depression can be very successful. It helps to regularly see someone you can trust, either your own doctor, counsellor or a specialist psychiatrist. Changing our habits and style of life is always a challenge and takes time to achieve
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG.
Moderation is the key
May 18th 2008, 6:57 am
#35
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
What is the connection between depression and alcohol?
We know that there is a connection - self-harm and suicide are much more common in people with alcohol problems. It seems that it can work in two ways.
If we drink too much, too regularly, we are more likely to become depressed.
Regular drinking can leave us tired and depressed. There is evidence that alcohol changes the chemistry of the brain itself and that this increases the risk of depression.
Hangovers create a cycle of waking up feeling ill, anxious, jittery and guilty.
Regular drinking can make life depressing - family arguments, poor work, unreliable memory and sexual problems.
If we drink alcohol to relieve anxiety or depression, we will become more depressed
Alcohol helps us to forget our problems for a while. It can help us to relax and overcome any shyness. It can make talking easier and more fun, whether in the pub, a club or at a party. It is a very effective way of feeling better for a few hours.
If you are depressed and lacking in energy, it can be tempting to use alcohol to help you keep going and cope with life. The problem is that it is easy to slip into drinking regularly, using it like a medication.The benefits soon wear off, the drinking becomes part of a routine, and you have to keep drinking more to get the same effect.
There is evidence that, although many heavy drinkers feel depressed when they are drinking, most will feel better within a few weeks of stopping. So, it is usually best to tackle the alcohol first, and then consider dealing with the depression if it has not lifted after a few weeks.
After a few alcohol-free weeks, you will probably feel fitter and less depressed. Friends and family may find you easier to get on with. If your feelings of depression lift, this strongly suggests that they were caused by the drinking.
If the depression is still with you after four weeks of not drinking, talk to your GP or about further help. It may be useful to talk about your feelings, particularly if your depression seems linked to relationship problems, unemployment, divorce, bereavement or some other loss. Counselling may be helpful.
If the depression does not lift and is particularly severe, your general practitioner may recommend a talking treatment called 'cognitive psychotherapy' or suggest anti-depressant medication. In either case, you will need to stay away from alcohol and go on with the treatment for several months. There are some medications used to reduce the craving for alcohol, but these are usually only prescribed by a specialist.
Treatment for both alcohol problems and depression can be very successful. It helps to regularly see someone you can trust, either your own doctor, counsellor or a specialist psychiatrist. Changing our habits and style of life is always a challenge and takes time to achieve
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG. Moderation is the key
We know that there is a connection - self-harm and suicide are much more common in people with alcohol problems. It seems that it can work in two ways.
If we drink too much, too regularly, we are more likely to become depressed.
Regular drinking can leave us tired and depressed. There is evidence that alcohol changes the chemistry of the brain itself and that this increases the risk of depression.
Hangovers create a cycle of waking up feeling ill, anxious, jittery and guilty.
Regular drinking can make life depressing - family arguments, poor work, unreliable memory and sexual problems.
If we drink alcohol to relieve anxiety or depression, we will become more depressed
Alcohol helps us to forget our problems for a while. It can help us to relax and overcome any shyness. It can make talking easier and more fun, whether in the pub, a club or at a party. It is a very effective way of feeling better for a few hours.
If you are depressed and lacking in energy, it can be tempting to use alcohol to help you keep going and cope with life. The problem is that it is easy to slip into drinking regularly, using it like a medication.The benefits soon wear off, the drinking becomes part of a routine, and you have to keep drinking more to get the same effect.
There is evidence that, although many heavy drinkers feel depressed when they are drinking, most will feel better within a few weeks of stopping. So, it is usually best to tackle the alcohol first, and then consider dealing with the depression if it has not lifted after a few weeks.
After a few alcohol-free weeks, you will probably feel fitter and less depressed. Friends and family may find you easier to get on with. If your feelings of depression lift, this strongly suggests that they were caused by the drinking.
If the depression is still with you after four weeks of not drinking, talk to your GP or about further help. It may be useful to talk about your feelings, particularly if your depression seems linked to relationship problems, unemployment, divorce, bereavement or some other loss. Counselling may be helpful.
If the depression does not lift and is particularly severe, your general practitioner may recommend a talking treatment called 'cognitive psychotherapy' or suggest anti-depressant medication. In either case, you will need to stay away from alcohol and go on with the treatment for several months. There are some medications used to reduce the craving for alcohol, but these are usually only prescribed by a specialist.
Treatment for both alcohol problems and depression can be very successful. It helps to regularly see someone you can trust, either your own doctor, counsellor or a specialist psychiatrist. Changing our habits and style of life is always a challenge and takes time to achieve
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG.
Moderation is the key 
I did drink a bottle of red wine last night to help me sleep, but i feel like crap today so i wont be doing that again!
May 18th 2008, 10:53 am
#36
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
Do not think it is the drink makes you have all the symptoms is living at the bottom end of the world that causes the problems 
But good to hear you will not be drinking a bottle of red to get to sleep.
May 18th 2008, 7:18 pm
#37
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
and feel like shite for the rest of the day....my drinking days are well and truly over for the heavy nights, my poor old body cant take it anymore
May 18th 2008, 9:52 pm
#38
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
Nothing worse than waking at 4am with a mouth as dry as a pommies bath towel (sorry)
I am too old for the next day sufferings now!
Plus i like to rememeber what happened
May 19th 2008, 12:35 am
#39
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
1. To have just sold my aus house for sufficiently more than i paid for it to recoup any losses
2. To be booked on a flight back to London next month (I'll spend the time left saying farewell to my rellies in Adelaide & Sydney)
3. To have a job waiting for me at the other end
Not too much to ask eh?
2. To be booked on a flight back to London next month (I'll spend the time left saying farewell to my rellies in Adelaide & Sydney)
3. To have a job waiting for me at the other end
Not too much to ask eh?
It's all about how you "create" what you want out of life by thinking and visualising what you want!!
May 19th 2008, 1:33 am
#40
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
If we drink too much, too regularly, we are more likely to become depressed. Regular drinking can leave us tired and depressed. There is evidence that Changing our habits and style of life is always a challenge and takes time to achieve.
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG. Moderation is the key
Hope some of the above info is useful SGG.
Moderation is the key Has it worked for you?
May 19th 2008, 11:08 pm
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
Thank you for posting that B. I have to say that since I've been off the wine, I have been sleeping heavier so feel abit woozy in the mornings. I do hope this stops soon. I have proved to myself now that drinking every evening was just a habit, albeit a bad one, so I am determined not to go back to that again.
Has it worked for you?
Has it worked for you?
Can also recommend 'Drinking: A Love Story' by Caroline Knapp and James Frey's 'A Million Little Pieces' (which you've probably read already). Just about to pick up Augusten Burroughs 'Dry' so will let you know. These are all memoirs which I find help as they are not preachy but make you aware of how we deceive ourselves with the ' this is ok/normal/everyone does it' line of thought when our bodies/minds are telling us otherwise.
May 19th 2008, 11:59 pm
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
I would really appreciate as much info as possible please. Once I set my mind on something, I hate to give in (hence why I stayed here longer than I should have), so the more anti's I read, the better for me. I wanted to prove to myself I didn't 'need' the wine and that it was a habit born out of boredom and depression. Although most nights I did actually enjoy the wine, I have proved that now, but would still like to have info at hand.
But Jackie my sweet, it wasn't real, it was make believe, abit like our small lives here in Oz.
But Jackie my sweet, it wasn't real, it was make believe, abit like our small lives here in Oz.
May 20th 2008, 1:05 am
#44
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
coz i have to work that bloody hard, next thing you know i'll be losing weight and taking up a sport
May 20th 2008, 1:49 am
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Re: Sometimes I think I'll be fine here...
so thats why most people here are super fit!!!!! well around my suburb there must be a lot lazy so and so's who don't work and cannot afford the gym!!! some Biiiiiiigggg people walk around our park (or should I say stagger!!!)