So why did you really return... for the place or the people
Mar 15th 2012, 12:18 am
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
I must say i see many examples of people here being judged for where come from and how much they earn etc. I often hear people say this is a classless society which is complete crap as far as im concerned.
Freedom from being judged by accent, class, location etc etc. There seems to be very few socio economic bounderies in Aus, which was something I was always aware of in the UK. Not sure why that was so important or played such a big part of my personal awareness in the UK and not here.
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Mar 15th 2012, 6:39 am
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
Yup, in my experience too. Much more judgment on your house, your car, the school your kids go to, who you know (or dont know), who you went to dinner with (or didnt get invited to dinner with), how much you spent on your last holiday and where you could have gone to get it cheaper and how much better their hotel was than the one you probably stayed in, how much cleverer are their kids than yours, how much more they paid for their kitchen reno than you did, how much higher in the APS they/their partners are/were etc (and they always ask those questions).
I dont know that judgments were made so much on accents (though if anyone would get rid of Jooolyar that would definitely be a plus for Aus) - most Canberrans couldnt tell an Adelaide from an Albury accent they are so far up themselves they probably dont realize that there are other accents.
I dont know that judgments were made so much on accents (though if anyone would get rid of Jooolyar that would definitely be a plus for Aus) - most Canberrans couldnt tell an Adelaide from an Albury accent they are so far up themselves they probably dont realize that there are other accents.
Mar 15th 2012, 8:21 am
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
I grew up in the UK, but lived in Hong Kong for 4 years and South Africa for about 30 years. My wife returned to the UK in 2006, and I visited her in 2008 (first visit in more than 20 years). I joined her the following year - it was more about our own relationship than anything else - and have regretted coming back ever since.
I've been back to SA a few times and it feels like going home - the sun, big skies, space and lifestyle - so I'll be leaving this country again as soon as I get things sorted out. I don't belong here, and don't want to live here.
I've been back to SA a few times and it feels like going home - the sun, big skies, space and lifestyle - so I'll be leaving this country again as soon as I get things sorted out. I don't belong here, and don't want to live here.
Mar 15th 2012, 8:27 am
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
It's the harshness and the shrill with Julia Gillards typically Adelaide accent before she started taking elocution lessons being the classic example.. It's very different to Melbourne and Sydney where the accent seems to come across an octave lower. EG: Jeffery Rush, Bill Hunter, Barry Humphries, Gwyneth Paltrow, ONJ etc.
Every knows what Julia Gillard sounded like and it was the epitomy of the bad Aussie accent.... Here's an example of the good Aussie accent. Which honestly seems to be more common in Melbourne and Sydney.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=48yDSBaKBdI
Reading the above posts it makes me wonder what it is that makes one feel at home somewhere. For me it's a freedom thing. Freedom from being judged by accent, class, location etc etc. There seems to be very few socio economic bounderies in Aus, which was something I was always aware of in the UK. Not sure why that was so important or played such a big part of my personal awareness in the UK and not here.
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Every knows what Julia Gillard sounded like and it was the epitomy of the bad Aussie accent.... Here's an example of the good Aussie accent. Which honestly seems to be more common in Melbourne and Sydney.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=48yDSBaKBdI
Reading the above posts it makes me wonder what it is that makes one feel at home somewhere. For me it's a freedom thing. Freedom from being judged by accent, class, location etc etc. There seems to be very few socio economic bounderies in Aus, which was something I was always aware of in the UK. Not sure why that was so important or played such a big part of my personal awareness in the UK and not here.
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Mar 15th 2012, 10:44 am
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
Whoops I actually meant Cate Blanchett believe it or not... Right face (and voice) wrong name. Blame my ageing memory.
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Mar 15th 2012, 6:19 pm
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
Defo agree that Australia is not classless. I can remember being shocked when people, strangers even, asked if you were buying your house or renting!!! What has that got to do with the price of fish?
And I DO NOT miss the "Australia is the greatest country in the world" mentality, who are you trying to convince me or yourself?
When I came back here for my one year try it journey, one friend actually said to me the above, "You'll be back because Australia is the greatest country in the world" my answer to her?
"In your opinion."
This from a woman who has never lived in another country, sigh...........
And I DO NOT miss the "Australia is the greatest country in the world" mentality, who are you trying to convince me or yourself?
When I came back here for my one year try it journey, one friend actually said to me the above, "You'll be back because Australia is the greatest country in the world" my answer to her?
"In your opinion."
This from a woman who has never lived in another country, sigh...........
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Mar 15th 2012, 6:59 pm
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
Defo agree that Australia is not classless. I can remember being shocked when people, strangers even, asked if you were buying your house or renting!!! What has that got to do with the price of fish?
"In your opinion."
This from a woman who has never lived in another country, sigh...........
"In your opinion."
This from a woman who has never lived in another country, sigh...........
The reason I can say with confidence that if there is a class mentality that it's confused is in the following example.
I had a fellow who lives in a very big house in a place called Hillside here... near Taylors Lakes. To him Coburg and Brunswick are full of Ethnics and places to be avoided.... To me and those around here....... Hillside is typical suburbia, Mcmansion ville and to be avoided. He definitely looked down on this area... Whereas people from here would definitely look down on his.
Renting again a dubious issue.... I would imagine that a person renting in Fitzroy or Carlton would be far better thought of "if thats your bag" than someone that owns in say Werribee.
Tis a totally different ball game here.... Not so much wrong side of the tracks but how you live on your side of the tracks.
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Mar 15th 2012, 8:14 pm
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Re: So why did you really return... for the place or the people
It's the harshness and the shrill with Julia Gillards typically Adelaide accent before she started taking elocution lessons being the classic example.. It's very different to Melbourne and Sydney where the accent seems to come across an octave lower. EG: Jeffery Rush, Bill Hunter, Barry Humphries, Gwyneth Paltrow, ONJ etc.
Every knows what Julia Gillard sounded like and it was the epitomy of the bad Aussie accent.... Here's an example of the good Aussie accent. Which honestly seems to be more common in Melbourne and Sydney.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=48yDSBaKBdI
Reading the above posts it makes me wonder what it is that makes one feel at home somewhere. For me it's a freedom thing. Freedom from being judged by accent, class, location etc etc. There seems to be very few socio economic bounderies in Aus, which was something I was always aware of in the UK. Not sure why that was so important or played such a big part of my personal awareness in the UK and not here.
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Every knows what Julia Gillard sounded like and it was the epitomy of the bad Aussie accent.... Here's an example of the good Aussie accent. Which honestly seems to be more common in Melbourne and Sydney.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=48yDSBaKBdI
Reading the above posts it makes me wonder what it is that makes one feel at home somewhere. For me it's a freedom thing. Freedom from being judged by accent, class, location etc etc. There seems to be very few socio economic bounderies in Aus, which was something I was always aware of in the UK. Not sure why that was so important or played such a big part of my personal awareness in the UK and not here.
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As for Julia Gillard....I don't think elocution lessons have helped much
