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Hairball Jul 16th 2010 2:16 am

Proving domicile at the interview
 
Hi, folks

I am going for my CR1 interview in a few weeks and I'm wondering about proving domicile for my USC wife.

I know that it's a good idea to prove your intent to domicile there with things like lease agreements, kids in schools, bank accounts etc.

In my case my wife is flying back to the US shortly after my interview. I can prove that with the copy of the flight information when she booked her ticket. Her flight is one-way

I think that that make it pretty clear-cut that she's moving over there, but i wonder if anyone has any other advice?

Thanks

traceym Jul 16th 2010 3:15 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Hairball (Post 8706001)
Hi, folks

I am going for my CR1 interview in a few weeks and I'm wondering about proving domicile for my USC wife.

I know that it's a good idea to prove your intent to domicile there with things like lease agreements, kids in schools, bank accounts etc.

In my case my wife is flying back to the US shortly after my interview. I can prove that with the copy of the flight information when she booked her ticket. Her flight is one-way

I think that that make it pretty clear-cut that she's moving over there, but i wonder if anyone has any other advice?

Thanks

Search nightmare in London by ginblossom, theres lots of stuff to look at in that thread.

Rete Jul 16th 2010 3:25 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
It is that "it is a good idea to prove your intent to re-establish your domicile" but mandatory.

Her having a flight back to the US might not be enough. Has she looked for a place to live for the both of you. Has she searched for employment? If you have kids are they registed for school?

Noorah101 Jul 16th 2010 4:15 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Hairball (Post 8706001)
I know that it's a good idea to prove your intent to domicile there with things like lease agreements, kids in schools, bank accounts etc.

In my case my wife is flying back to the US shortly after my interview. I can prove that with the copy of the flight information when she booked her ticket. Her flight is one-way

I think that that make it pretty clear-cut that she's moving over there, but i wonder if anyone has any other advice?

I think the one way ticket can be just one piece of evidence, but I don't think it's enough all on its own. I think you should also go ahead and include all the other things you listed above, plus more, if you have it.

Rene

frank09 Jul 16th 2010 4:40 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
This was an important thing to submit so we prepared hard for it and submitted a very thick packet of stuff that included:

Proof that we were selling our house, the contract from the Estate Agent, the listings details

Emails and listings of properties we were looking at in the US

Registration details at school for the kids in the US

Correspondance regarding jobs and job offers,

Also, in the cover letter I actually constucted a sentence using THEIR words (can't find it at the moment) but the sentence stated along the lines of "I Frank intend to domicile etc etc"

Don't ignore this requirement, very important!

avanutria Jul 16th 2010 4:41 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
Let's see...I provided emails documenting a job search, emails documenting an apartment search, a letter from our US realtor affirming that we have been working with her to find a property, a letter from my boss stating that he was aware of my intention to return to the US, emails of shipping quotes for our belongings from London to Oregon, a letter confirming the value of our UK house prior to putting it on the market (which we hadn't done yet at the time) ...can't remember what else.

Family_Guy Jul 16th 2010 7:03 pm

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
Well done you have either proved intent or conspired to defraud. No more no less. Make sure that it is the first rather than the later. The first guarantees you nothing. The later guarantees you more trouble than you can begin to imagine. Wordplay is fun when doing a cross word. When dealing with US immigration not so much.

Noorah101 Jul 16th 2010 9:30 pm

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Family_Guy (Post 8707742)
Well done you have either proved intent or conspired to defraud. No more no less. Make sure that it is the first rather than the later. The first guarantees you nothing. The later guarantees you more trouble than you can begin to imagine. Wordplay is fun when doing a cross word. When dealing with US immigration not so much.

How in the world is the OP conspiring to commit fraud? Please explain.

Rene

meauxna Jul 17th 2010 4:03 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Family_Guy (Post 8707742)
Well done you have either proved intent or conspired to defraud. No more no less. Make sure that it is the first rather than the later. The first guarantees you nothing. The later guarantees you more trouble than you can begin to imagine. Wordplay is fun when doing a cross word. When dealing with US immigration not so much.

Who are you replying to? You should probably explain yourself more fully in your posts or try the tactic of asking questions to elicit more information instead of being so definite about what you post.

Overall, your posts are trending in a bad direction; please think twice before hitting 'submit'.

Hairball Jul 19th 2010 2:33 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by avanutria (Post 8706456)
Let's see...I provided emails documenting a job search, emails documenting an apartment search, a letter from our US realtor affirming that we have been working with her to find a property, a letter from my boss stating that he was aware of my intention to return to the US, emails of shipping quotes for our belongings from London to Oregon, a letter confirming the value of our UK house prior to putting it on the market (which we hadn't done yet at the time) ...can't remember what else.

Thanks, folks

I have my wife's resignation letter from her company, her flight information and am working on a lease and/or notarised letter from her mother saying we can stay in her's or her mother's house. Her mother is in assisted living so has handed over control to her children.

I have no evidence of job hunting as neither of us will be getting a job as soon as we land. We also have no kids and do not intend to rent a house in the usual way, so realtors are not applicable.

I have had house rental values in writing and am working on renting the place. Hopefully that will happen on time so i can use that as further evidence.

Cheers

ian-mstm Jul 19th 2010 3:50 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Hairball (Post 8712580)
I have my wife's resignation letter from her company...

Your thinking is much too narrow.



I have no evidence of job hunting as neither of us will be getting a job as soon as we land.
Do you understand that getting (or not) a job as soon as you land is irrelevant? They like to see evidence that you're looking for a job. Get the evidence... yes, even if you have no intention of using it.



We also ... do not intend to rent a house in the usual way, so realtors are not applicable.
Again, it doesn't matter that you don't intent to rent. Get a realtor and use their services... even if you have no intention of using it, you should provide documentation that you are looking for a place.

Think about what they want to see... and give them what they want. You do want the visa, right?

Ian

Noorah101 Jul 19th 2010 3:55 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Hairball (Post 8712580)
Thanks, folks

I have my wife's resignation letter from her company, her flight information and am working on a lease and/or notarised letter from her mother saying we can stay in her's or her mother's house. Her mother is in assisted living so has handed over control to her children.

I have no evidence of job hunting as neither of us will be getting a job as soon as we land. We also have no kids and do not intend to rent a house in the usual way, so realtors are not applicable.

I have had house rental values in writing and am working on renting the place. Hopefully that will happen on time so i can use that as further evidence.

Cheers

Two more thoughts...

1. How about a resignation letter from YOUR employment. I know she is the one that needs to prove domicile, but showing that you also intend to give up your job just goes to show cutting the ties to the UK.

2. Provide quotes and correspondence on shipping your stuff from UK to USA.

3. Do you have any pets you're bringing over?

Rene

Hairball Jul 19th 2010 3:58 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 8712746)
Two more thoughts...

1. How about a resignation letter from YOUR employment. I know she is the one that needs to prove domicile, but showing that you also intend to give up your job just goes to show cutting the ties to the UK.

2. Provide quotes and correspondence on shipping your stuff from UK to USA.

3. Do you have any pets you're bringing over?

Rene

Good ideas!

I can get a letter from my company too. I plan to quit this week so that gives me room.

We are getting the post room at my wife's company to do the shipping, but i have a lot of quotes in email for that work so that would be a good one.

No pets, I'm afraid, but i do have an acquaintence in the US who has offered me part time IT work. I have asked him for a letter to that effect so that might help too. I have also asked my wife if she can get something similar as she will be doing some freelance publishing work.

avanutria Jul 19th 2010 7:00 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
The visa people do recommend not to do anything drastic (like quitting your job, selling your house or booking a nonrefundable flight) until you have the visa approved. A letter from your employer affirming your intentions may be better than outright quitting, unless quitting early factors into your main plans. If you *are* quitting your job soon just make sure you have a backup plan in case your visa is delayed...

Bomjeito Jul 19th 2010 9:10 am

Re: Proving domicile at the interview
 
We just completed this interview process.

It is not so much YOUR intent to domicile in USA, its your wife's.

I submitted my bank account statements, voter registration card, car insurance there, car registration (I'd left much of my stuff in storage, but insured), storage unit there, anything I could get my hands on. Of course my IRS transcripts and 1040s had my US address on them.

We also provided all our realtor correspondence, and our solicitor paperwork here that showed our house on the market (it wasn't sold at that time.)

Now what happened on my UK husband's side, which the ConOff only seemed to really want to see - was paperwork from his company. Once they saw that he was already employed in the USA, they were absolutely fine. My husband also found out from them that job searching is not any indication of anything (anyone can make that stuff up), nor are job offers. However job acceptances are a different situation in their eyes (meaning, and offer is nothing, an acceptance and contract - its a done deal.)

We also gave our shipping quotes as well, receipts for our sold vehicles, some closed accounts (a few sundry banking accounts we didn't need open, for example.)

For the USC, its about intent to re-domicile (or already domiciled) and for you, its to prove you won't become a public charge.

If her company is paying for you both to move back/to the USA, then she can have them provide paperwork to that effect, which means intent to (re) domicile in USA is the easy part.

This was just our experience at the end of May.

Good luck!


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