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kateg60 Dec 9th 2013 5:10 am

Proof of address
 
When I move back I will live with relatives so will not have any utility bills with my address. What other documents can be used for proof of address?

lgabriel73 Dec 9th 2013 5:35 am

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Depends on what you need the POA for.

robin1234 Dec 9th 2013 5:55 am

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Originally Posted by kateg60 (Post 11027736)
When I move back I will live with relatives so will not have any utility bills with my address. What other documents can be used for proof of address?

Will you be applying for a new driving licence photocard with your current address?

holly_1948 Dec 9th 2013 7:04 am

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Originally Posted by kateg60 (Post 11027736)
When I move back I will live with relatives so will not have any utility bills with my address. What other documents can be used for proof of address?

This is a useful source (scroll down to the last page)
http://www.manchester.nhs.uk/documen...flet-jan12.pdf

kateg60 Dec 23rd 2013 8:38 am

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To open a bank account, drivers license, whatever else requires the POA.

Hino Dec 24th 2013 8:12 pm

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Originally Posted by kateg60 (Post 11027736)
When I move back I will live with relatives so will not have any utility bills with my address. What other documents can be used for proof of address?

I just walked into Barclays bank and explained that I was moving back to the UK from Oz and needed to open a UK current account in order to transfer my funds into UK. I explained that I was staying in rented accommodation and I was told that that was not a problem. Within days I had an active UK bank account and a debit card with my address listed as the rental property.

Changing my old UK paper driving licence to the 'new' photo licence was also easy and the new licence also had my rental address on it. I also joined the local library and with the ID from my bank statement and my photo licence obtained a bus pass.

Within a couple of weeks of arriving back in UK, I had almost a full set of verifiable photo ID's.

In my case I knew my National Insurance number and had previously held a UK drivers licence.

Good luck.

mikelincs Dec 24th 2013 8:24 pm

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Originally Posted by kateg60 (Post 11027736)
When I move back I will live with relatives so will not have any utility bills with my address. What other documents can be used for proof of address?

Get yourself on the Electoral roll ASAP, some places will check that, so it will provide some sort of address.

ritarro Jan 4th 2014 8:08 pm

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Council tax bill will go a long way in opening a bank account

holly_1948 Jan 5th 2014 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by ritarro (Post 11063554)
Council tax bill will go a long way in opening a bank account

A bit of chicken and egg there!

Won't almost all people need to already have a bank account in order to do the things they need to do in order to get a council tax bill?

ritarro Jan 5th 2014 2:48 am

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It was useful to me when I opened a bank account. There are other documents I suppose.

holly_1948 Jan 5th 2014 3:02 am

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Originally Posted by ritarro (Post 11064071)
It was useful to me when I opened a bank account. There are other documents I suppose.

So you were able to obtain a council tax bill at a time that you did not already have a bank account?

ritarro Jan 5th 2014 3:08 am

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Yes, OP says they live with relatives, everyone has to pay now, it is in fact a Poll tax, they will get a joint bill

holly_1948 Jan 5th 2014 3:37 am

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Originally Posted by ritarro (Post 11064105)
Yes, OP says they live with relatives, everyone has to pay now, it is in fact a Poll tax, they will get a joint bill

Thank you!

mikelincs Jan 5th 2014 4:16 am

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Originally Posted by ritarro (Post 11064105)
Yes, OP says they live with relatives, everyone has to pay now, it is in fact a Poll tax, they will get a joint bill

No, the bill is per household and not everyone is named on the bill, the electoral roll has to have everyone over a certain age listed. The only difference with a council tax bill is if there is only one person living there, then it is reduced, but 2, 3 or 15 it's the same cost, so nothing like the poll tax.

lgabriel73 Jan 5th 2014 4:20 am

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If you are living with relatives the easiest way to get a bank account is go with them to the bank they use and apply for an account there. My Mum checked with her bank and they said that they will open an account for me as long as I have my drivers license, passport, proof of previous address in the US and my Mum to verify that I am living with her. If you are not living with relatives then the quickest and easiest proof of address is getting on the electoral record.

ritarro Jan 5th 2014 10:57 am

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Council tax bill is confusing Mike, don't understand it properly myself yet, my bill has my name and my wifes name on it so assumed, thanks for setting me straight.

holly_1948 Jan 6th 2014 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11064179)
No, the bill is per household and not everyone is named on the bill, the electoral roll has to have everyone over a certain age listed. The only difference with a council tax bill is if there is only one person living there, then it is reduced, but 2, 3 or 15 it's the same cost, so nothing like the poll tax.

Ritarro reports that his bill arrives with both his and his wife's name on it.

So there is only one bill per household but more than one person may be named on the one bill for the household.

The question then becomes - how do I get my name added to the bill if I am staying with a relative? Or is it only possible for couples to be both named?

I have never seen anything anywhere which addresses that question though it is obviously important for returners who stay with relatives until they sort their lives out and get a place of their own. That may sound like a bit of an obscure case - but I suspect it happens with many, if not most, returning emigrants.

holly_1948 Jan 6th 2014 4:51 am

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Originally Posted by lgabriel73 (Post 11064186)
If you are living with relatives [a] way to get a bank account is go with them to the bank they use and apply for an account there. My Mum checked with her bank and they said that they will open an account for me as long as I have my drivers license, passport, proof of previous address in the US and my Mum to verify that I am living with her.

Thank you, that information will help quite a few people I suspect.

tagalong Jan 20th 2014 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by lgabriel73 (Post 11064186)
If you are living with relatives the easiest way to get a bank account is go with them to the bank they use and apply for an account there. My Mum checked with her bank and they said that they will open an account for me as long as I have my drivers license, passport, proof of previous address in the US and my Mum to verify that I am living with her. If you are not living with relatives then the quickest and easiest proof of address is getting on the electoral record.

Curious to know which bank this is with. I'm living with relatives and we went to Natwest last week, who won't accent verification from my relative (who has banked with them for donkey's years). They did accept it when I opened an account 6 years ago, but the anti-money laundering legislation is quite strict now.

lgabriel73 Jan 20th 2014 12:15 am

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Both the Halifax and Santander bank were fine with this. You still need something with your address on it though.

brissybee Jan 20th 2014 12:35 am

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Is there anything to stop someone from simply changing their mailing address (on existing expat country statements) to a UK address?

lgabriel73 Jan 20th 2014 12:55 am

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There are specific docs that count as proof of address, a counci tax bill, utility bill from UK and drivers license. So changing address on something from US wouldn't work.

Casual Observer Jan 22nd 2014 12:38 pm

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https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.u...-bank-accounts

Knock yourself out with an overload of each banks requirements :p

Mummy in the foothills Jan 24th 2014 6:15 pm

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Originally Posted by brissybee (Post 11087202)
Is there anything to stop someone from simply changing their mailing address (on existing expat country statements) to a UK address?

We did that with our US HSBC credit card bill, it comes to the UK house (I changed the address a couple of months before the move) Dh used that as proof of address for the bank along with the letter registering him at the local doctor. He had other stuff too, no utility bills as we weren't paying them in my mothers house. I think he had a letter to go to his interview for his NIN with him as well.


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