Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
Interesting bit here for those that come from countries who can just exchange their license.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_069870
New drivers. Special rules as set out below apply for a period of two years from the date of passing their first driving test, to drivers and motorcyclists from
Where a person subject to the special rules accumulates six or more penalty points before the end of the two-year period (including any points acquired before passing the test) their licence will be revoked automatically. To regain the licence they must reapply for a provisional licence and may drive only as a learner until they pass a further driving test (see also 'Safety code for new drivers').
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_069870
New drivers. Special rules as set out below apply for a period of two years from the date of passing their first driving test, to drivers and motorcyclists from
- the UK, EU/EEA, the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands or Gibraltar who passed their first driving test in any of those countries
- other foreign countries who have to pass a UK driving test to gain a UK licence, in which case the UK driving test is treated as their first driving test; and
- other foreign countries who (without needing a test) exchanged their licence for a UK licence and subsequently passed a UK driving test to drive another type of vehicle, in which case the UK driving test is treated as their first driving test. For example a driver who exchanges a foreign licence (car) for a UK licence (car) and who later passes a test to drive another type of vehicle (e.g. an HGV) will be subject to the special rules
Where a person subject to the special rules accumulates six or more penalty points before the end of the two-year period (including any points acquired before passing the test) their licence will be revoked automatically. To regain the licence they must reapply for a provisional licence and may drive only as a learner until they pass a further driving test (see also 'Safety code for new drivers').
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
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Well, obviously, if for example a USC visits the UK and rents a car in the UK, they can purchase UK insurance coverage - or perhaps their US coverage will cover them when they drive abroad. But I was talking about someone resident in the UK - they cannot obtain car insurance if all they have is an American license.
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I just spent 30 mins on the phone with Direct Line ...and I completed an on-line quote section.
Upshot is yes,we can both get insurance on an American license for one year.
In that one year, we will have to pass a UK test to continue driving after that point.
Unfortunately ,Direct line were not interested in any no-claims we had for our time in the States.
After completing the on-line quote section, we were given a quote of about 650 for the year...I am 40 and DH is 53 ,driving a 1996 Vauxhall astra automatic.
Here lies the problem ...there is no box to tick international license ,so I ticked provisional. I think that might have given me an inaccurate number though,as provisional license holders are only allowed in a car with an experienced driver...
So,I called them again and they promised to amend those details ...they didn't and couldn't find the original info I provided them with
All in all, it was a fun morning on the phone ;talking to 3 different reps while supervising my 2 year old in my make-up bag!
With the info we now know that YES! We can get insurance on American licenses for 1 year.
I now need to compose myself, then ask them to enter the info on their computer WITH the International license option ticked, to see what the final cost will be!
Upshot is yes,we can both get insurance on an American license for one year.
In that one year, we will have to pass a UK test to continue driving after that point.
Unfortunately ,Direct line were not interested in any no-claims we had for our time in the States.
After completing the on-line quote section, we were given a quote of about 650 for the year...I am 40 and DH is 53 ,driving a 1996 Vauxhall astra automatic.
Here lies the problem ...there is no box to tick international license ,so I ticked provisional. I think that might have given me an inaccurate number though,as provisional license holders are only allowed in a car with an experienced driver...
So,I called them again and they promised to amend those details ...they didn't and couldn't find the original info I provided them with
All in all, it was a fun morning on the phone ;talking to 3 different reps while supervising my 2 year old in my make-up bag!
With the info we now know that YES! We can get insurance on American licenses for 1 year.
I now need to compose myself, then ask them to enter the info on their computer WITH the International license option ticked, to see what the final cost will be!
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
Yep, after the 12 months is up they had better have a UK license. Even if they leave after 9 months and then come back in 6 months the 12 months starts from the first time the came. If that sounds like I know what I'm talking about I wonder about business people who come and go in the UK and if they are conscientious in keep track of their 12 months. I'm thinking of the ones who are there for 6 months or so at a time.
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
If it's a rental car and he's driving on his US license, he'll either have to purchase UK coverage from the car rental company or be covered by his US car insurance company.
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
I've never, ever heard that that is possible - but if they say so then they must know what they are talking about, so I'm really happy for you.
One year ago, in August 2010, Direct Line wouldn't insure me (with a US license) on my husband's policy until I had a UK Provisional license - but they did give us a discount when we provided them with no-claims letters from State Farm, so go figure!
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I've never, ever heard that that is possible - but if they say so then they must know what they are talking about, so I'm really happy for you.
One year ago, in August 2010, Direct Line wouldn't insure me (with a US license) on my husband's policy until I had a UK Provisional license - but they did give us a discount when we provided them with no-claims letters from State Farm, so go figure!
One year ago, in August 2010, Direct Line wouldn't insure me (with a US license) on my husband's policy until I had a UK Provisional license - but they did give us a discount when we provided them with no-claims letters from State Farm, so go figure!
Thanks DDL
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
Didn't Jerseygirl mention once that she was able to get UK car insurance on her US license?
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
I am going to call back again though...just to be totally secure!
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Forgive the intrusion but perhaps there might be some misunderstanding here.
From what I can gather a USA driving license can be used in the UK for driving purposes for a maximum of 12 months before you have to replace it with a UK version i.e. take the local tests.
You would be correct in that the first step would be to apply for and actually recieve a Provisional License. What concerns me somewhat is do people realise that this only entitles you to drive with a suitably qualified person sat next to you, at ALL times?
So in brief do not use your Provisional License nomatter what insurance you have and drive without having the suitably qualified person next to you.
I understand that some perhaps are getting quotes for insurance using this Provisional License but maybe relying on producing their USA license when driving-if you are stopped and asked to produce your exact details/ paperwork you will be in for a shock!
From what I can gather a USA driving license can be used in the UK for driving purposes for a maximum of 12 months before you have to replace it with a UK version i.e. take the local tests.
You would be correct in that the first step would be to apply for and actually recieve a Provisional License. What concerns me somewhat is do people realise that this only entitles you to drive with a suitably qualified person sat next to you, at ALL times?
So in brief do not use your Provisional License nomatter what insurance you have and drive without having the suitably qualified person next to you.
I understand that some perhaps are getting quotes for insurance using this Provisional License but maybe relying on producing their USA license when driving-if you are stopped and asked to produce your exact details/ paperwork you will be in for a shock!
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
Forgive the intrusion but perhaps there might be some misunderstanding here.
From what I can gather a USA driving license can be used in the UK for driving purposes for a maximum of 12 months before you have to replace it with a UK version i.e. take the local tests.
You would be correct in that the first step would be to apply for and actually recieve a Provisional License. What concerns me somewhat is do people realise that this only entitles you to drive with a suitably qualified person sat next to you, at ALL times?
So in brief do not use your Provisional License nomatter what insurance you have and drive without having the suitably qualified person next to you.
I understand that some perhaps are getting quotes for insurance using this Provisional License but maybe relying on producing their USA license when driving-if you are stopped and asked to produce your exact details/ paperwork you will be in for a shock!
From what I can gather a USA driving license can be used in the UK for driving purposes for a maximum of 12 months before you have to replace it with a UK version i.e. take the local tests.
You would be correct in that the first step would be to apply for and actually recieve a Provisional License. What concerns me somewhat is do people realise that this only entitles you to drive with a suitably qualified person sat next to you, at ALL times?
So in brief do not use your Provisional License nomatter what insurance you have and drive without having the suitably qualified person next to you.
I understand that some perhaps are getting quotes for insurance using this Provisional License but maybe relying on producing their USA license when driving-if you are stopped and asked to produce your exact details/ paperwork you will be in for a shock!
American license holders will have to apply for a provisional, as it is the first step in gaining a FULL UK license.
It would be illegal to give incorrect info to the insurers ,and you just wouldn't be covered.
It is quite legal to drive FOR THE FIRST 12 MONTHS on your American license,with a provisional in your possession.
In fact ,most will; as hopefully they will be taking lessons and working toward a British license. You can not start lessons without a provisional.
I understand what you are saying though
I only entered provisional on the computer as there was no INTERNATIONAL option the rep I spoke to ,said that type of situation would have to be done over the phone!
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Re: Over 50s Moving to UK INFO Thread: DRIVING/CAR INSURANCE
My Ds drove for a year on his US license and had insurance through a local insurance agent. He passed his UK test just before the 1 year was up.
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Yes I think you do understand what I was trying to say-Thanks!
My concern was what the insurance company actualy write on the policy i.e. USA license or UK provisional-perhaps they can write both?
For instance should you be driving-quite legally- on say your USA license but the insurance policy has 'provisional' on it they would undoubtedly wriggle out of any claim arising from an accident and I daresay the police would want a word or two.
I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you would intentionally do anything wrong just the small print in the policy would need to be checked, they are insurabce companies after all.
My concern was what the insurance company actualy write on the policy i.e. USA license or UK provisional-perhaps they can write both?
For instance should you be driving-quite legally- on say your USA license but the insurance policy has 'provisional' on it they would undoubtedly wriggle out of any claim arising from an accident and I daresay the police would want a word or two.
I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you would intentionally do anything wrong just the small print in the policy would need to be checked, they are insurabce companies after all.
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Yes I think you do understand what I was trying to say-Thanks!
My concern was what the insurance company actualy write on the policy i.e. USA license or UK provisional-perhaps they can write both?
For instance should you be driving-quite legally- on say your USA license but the insurance policy has 'provisional' on it they would undoubtedly wriggle out of any claim arising from an accident and I daresay the police would want a word or two.
I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you would intentionally do anything wrong just the small print in the policy would need to be checked, they are insurabce companies after all.
My concern was what the insurance company actualy write on the policy i.e. USA license or UK provisional-perhaps they can write both?
For instance should you be driving-quite legally- on say your USA license but the insurance policy has 'provisional' on it they would undoubtedly wriggle out of any claim arising from an accident and I daresay the police would want a word or two.
I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you would intentionally do anything wrong just the small print in the policy would need to be checked, they are insurabce companies after all.