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Victor Meldrew Oct 5th 2015 2:02 am

Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 
I have returned to UK after 14 continuous years overseas (Middle East). I have been classed as non-resident throughout this time.

I flew back at the end of June (2015), but my contract didn't end until August 31st (not sure if this is relevant!)

I am currently unemployed and living off savings.

Do I need to notify HMRC that I have returned so that they can change their records to state that I am now resident?

If so, what is the best way of doing this?

Thanks

michali Oct 5th 2015 2:58 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 
We notified HMRC upon pure turn last year. Check https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/PAYENICoC

Heretic Oct 5th 2015 8:01 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 
This might help:

RDRM10215 - Residence: Coming to the United Kingdom: Form P86

BritInParis Oct 6th 2015 10:38 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 
No need to anymore. Form P86 has been withdrawn. Providing you know your NINO and you have your last P45 then once you start interacting with HMRC in any way (work, claiming benefits, pensions) then they'll know you're back.

Victor Meldrew Oct 6th 2015 7:56 pm

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11766441)
No need to anymore. Form P86 has been withdrawn. Providing you know your NINO and you have your last P45 then once you start interacting with HMRC in any way (work, claiming benefits, pensions) then they'll know you're back.

Thank you for your response (and all other responders:thumbup:)

I have my last P45, but this was from August 2001, since when I have been overseas. Does this matter?

Heretic Oct 7th 2015 12:07 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11766441)
No need to anymore. Form P86 has been withdrawn.


I know. Clearly you didn't click the link - it was that sentence involving P86 that came up automatically.

I would advise the OP to click on it.

Heretic Oct 7th 2015 12:08 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Victor Meldrew (Post 11766621)
I have my last P45, but this was from August 2001, since when I have been overseas. Does this matter?


No.

BritInParis Oct 7th 2015 5:57 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Heretic (Post 11766755)
I know. Clearly you didn't click the link - it was that sentence involving P86 that came up automatically.

I would advise the OP to click on it.

I did, however I was responding to the OP's question, not your link. Your link refers to completing a P46, which isn't necessary if the OP has his last P45, which he does.

Novocastrian Oct 7th 2015 8:49 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11767009)
I did, however I was responding to the OP's question, not your link. Your link refers to completing a P46, which isn't necessary if the OP has his last P45, which he does.

Hmm. I've just clicked on it as well. I don't have a P-45 (whatever that is, I last worked in the UK in 1977), but now I'm technically back, well not just technically I suppose, I am becoming tax resident here, do I need to do something wrt HMRC?

Edit: I'm retired if that's relevant.

Editha Oct 7th 2015 10:22 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 
Do you have UK income, e.g. a state pension? Or is all your income from Canada? Either way, you are going to have to file a tax return declaring your foreign income. As long as you do that when it is due, I don't think you'll need to contact HMRC beforehand.

BritInParis Oct 7th 2015 11:13 am

Re: Notifying HMRC of return to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11767138)
Hmm. I've just clicked on it as well. I don't have a P-45 (whatever that is, I last worked in the UK in 1977), but now I'm technically back, well not just technically I suppose, I am becoming tax resident here, do I need to do something wrt HMRC?

Edit: I'm retired if that's relevant.

The P45 has been around since WWII so you probably were given one at some point before you left the UK but I concur with Editha's opinion. You would need to complete a P46 if you intended to work but if you are retired and relying on your pension and/or other income then you should only need to complete a self-assessment tax return. Providing you know your National Insurance number you should be good to go.

Novocastrian Oct 7th 2015 7:45 pm

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^ Thank you both.


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