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Old Mar 22nd 2010, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl View Post
It doesn't make any difference 'cos the doc's Australian.
Yep. I'm British with an Aussie birth cert. Just trying to make a point
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Old Mar 22nd 2010, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Ozzidoc View Post
Yep. I'm British with an Aussie birth cert. Just trying to make a point
This is the British birth certificate we are talking about, the short one only as far as I know........
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
This is the British birth certificate we are talking about, the short one only as far as I know........
It's on both the long and short versions of my daughter's birth certificates.
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
This is the British birth certificate we are talking about, the short one only as far as I know........
You have missed my point, which is that not all British people have a British birth cert.
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You have missed my point, which is that not all British people have a British birth cert.
Sorry I don't get it. If you are born in Britain then you have a British birth certificate.............
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
Sorry I don't get it. If you are born in Britain then you have a British birth certificate.............
You don't have to be born in Britain to be British and you don't have to have a British birth certificate.
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You don't have to be born in Britain to be British and you don't have to have a British birth certificate.
Oh its all too hard for me. All I wish is that OP and her sister are OK and looked after by the NHS.........Goodnight everybody. xxx
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Hi all,
This will be a long post but I'd be really grateful if you'd bear with me and let me know of any advice you may have as I'm going out of my mind with stress right now. My question is not regarding me, but my sister, who's 23. We are both British citizens, born and bred, but when we were younger our dad moved to the US. We stayed in the UK with our mum. When we were in our late teens our dad applied for us to have green cards, even though we didn't want them. When I was 22 (in 2007) I went over after Uni, to check it out, stayed for 8 months and came home. I stayed in California and everyone thought I was crazy to come back but I love the UK. In 2008, after my sister finished Uni she went over to Cali with her bf (he'd go back and forth as he didn't have a visa/Green card). She decided to give it a year, to see if she liked it or not. She gave it a year and a bit and in the Autumn of 2009, she decided it wasn't for her. She was going to give in her notice at her job, and she applied to Uni in England, to study nursing. She applied through UCAS for deffered entry so she'd be resident again in the UK before she started in 2010. She was offered an interview in Dec 2009, and planned to return home in early November 2009.

Late October, I had a phonecall back here to say that my sister had collapsed, and was having seizures. She was taken to hospital and an MRI scan showed a brain tumour. She was stable but days later she relapsed and suffered intracranial pressure/swelling, she had emergency life saving surgery to remove the bone skull on the left side to allow for the swelling. A biopsy showed that her tumour was cancerous, and would need surgery as it was a very large tumour. After she came around from the surgery, she had no memory, couldn't speak properly or swallow, had aphasia (where she mixed up words, eg calling chocolate chicken) right side weakness, and had to learn to walk, talk and do everything from scratch. She had severely impaired cognitive function too so couldn't really think or cope by herself.

She needed surgery but as the tumour was pressing on her speech site, they had to perform the surgery while she was awake, so the surgeon knew what to cut away and what not to touch. Her speech would have to be at an adequate level, for her to communicate well enough with the surgeons during the surgery. She was already desperate to go back to England (she remembered being younger in the UK but had no memory of the last 3-4 years so was scared and confused to be away from home). But we were told that with no bone skull she couldn't fly, so we had to wait for her to have speech therapy and physical therapy in the US, have her surgery, then go home.

I flew over in Nov for a week, then went back in Jan for 2 months. I was only 24 at the time and it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do.....juggle my sister's medical bills, navigate the crazy US health system, sort out my sisters insurance, cobra etc, whilst also being a full time carer for my sister (with no financial support etc as I'm not a US resident) and trying to reassure my family and friends back in the UK. My sister also had regular seizures, and was frequently rushed to hospital during the months before her operation. I didn't sleep properly for two months as I'd lie awake to watch her breathing/in case she had a seizure. The American hospital discharged her long before she was ready (I think for the benefit of the insurance company), so basically I had to care 100% for her, I was literally all she had.

She finally had her operation in Feb. We were told we could go home at the end of Feb. She was discharged from hospital 3 days after having a 12 hour operation on her brain whilst being awake througout. We'd only been home a few hours when she had a massive seizure and was taken back to hospital and put in the ICU, as she got trapped in a 'seizure loop'...the seizures were continous and she had to be sedated to bring her out of it.

When she came round she had again relapsed with her speech and function and would need more physical and speech therapy. We were also told, 5/6 months after the initial illness, that the tumour was not a grade 2 but a grade 3 more aggressive tumour, and that she'd need chemo and radiotherapy asap. By now I just couldn't take any more I was physically and mentally drained and we were so desperate to get home that as soon as she was medically stable we were on a plane. We landed 4 days ago and thank the lord my sister was ok on the flight. But now we have another obstacle to face...

We are not claiming any kind of benefits in the US as as far as we are concerned we now live in the UK, my sister gave up her green card. We no longer have US health insurance either, we terminated everything in the US before we left. But as I understand, as my sister was away she can't claim anything in the UK either. I am not really worried about that as I will support her but there is a big problem with the NHS treatment...I'm not sure, is she entitled to treatment?

She needs chemo asap and medication etc that I assumed she could get on the NHS but now, after researching the net I'm not sure she will be able to get it. Can the NHS refuse to treat her? If they charge her for the treatment, we will be in trouble...my mum dosen't have a lot of money and my savings were wiped out on flights back and forth and supporting me and my sis in the US. I'm really really scared now about what's going to happen and if it's going to be my fault for bringing her back here. So my question is,
does anyone know if we can get treatment on the NHS, and also, if my sis is eligible for any kind of financial support/help. Will we have to pay for NHS treatment? Has anyone else been in this situation? Before we left America I assumed we'd be treated in the UK for free as when I was a student there was always a myriad of people from around the world using the GP's services etc free of chrage. So to read we may not be treated was a shock. My sis is still a British citizen, has a UK passport, lived in the UK for 21.5 of her 23 years and is now resident in the UK again. Please anyone with prior exp on this issue /any knowledge share your advice

Thanks SO much for reading sorry this post is sooooo long!
OMG you poor kids my heart goes out to you I don't know the legal system as far as the NHS goes but I'm sure you will be able to get the treatment for your sister here and that you will get some help as far as benifits goes. Maybe you need to talk to the C.A.B you can get them on the internet or the yellow pages never used them myself but have heard brilliant reports about them, do this ASAP.
Apart from this I don't know what else I can say to you apart from keep your chins up, good luck and I'll be thinking of you
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Old Mar 22nd 2010, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
Oh its all too hard for me. All I wish is that OP and her sister are OK and looked after by the NHS.........Goodnight everybody. xxx
What they mean is that, you can be born anywhere in the world and have a birth certificate from that country, BUT, you could also be like my husband who was born and raised in New Zealand, has married me, come to UK on a spouse visa which will eventually lead to him applying for British citizenship at a later date and he will then be British.
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Originally Posted by Fleaflyfloflum View Post
What they mean is that, you can be born anywhere in the world and have a birth certificate from that country, BUT, you could also be like my husband who was born and raised in New Zealand, has married me, come to UK on a spouse visa which will eventually lead to him applying for British citizenship at a later date and he will then be British.
True but I don't think that applies to Ozzio.

Or you could be born overseas and have British parent/s...or you could have been a resident in the UK long enough to become a British citizen.
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
Sorry I don't get it. If you are born in Britain then you have a British birth certificate.............
Just checked again as this whole thing is getting silly.

The OP and her sister were both born in Britain of British parents...............
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
Just checked again as this whole thing is getting silly.

The OP and her sister were both born in Britain of British parents...............
That maybe so...but Ozzio was merely pointing out that you do not have to be born in Britain or have a British birth certificate to be British. Slightly off topic I know but don't worry about it.
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Originally Posted by Beedubya View Post
I have never heard of this P85 form, I don't recall ever filling in any forms to do with medical matters on leaving the UK or arriving back. I left, came back, left, came back, left, going again very soon..............

Bear in mind I am a serial ping ponger........
It is not an NHS form - it is a tax form - its purpose is to enable you to claim back overpaid tax and to noitify them you are leaving. A consequence is they cancel your NHS registration - partly because it allows other patients to join the doctors list but mainly because if you leave then you are not entitled to NHS treatment.
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It is not an NHS form - it is a tax form - its purpose is to enable you to claim back overpaid tax and to noitify them you are leaving. A consequence is they cancel your NHS registration - partly because it allows other patients to join the doctors list but mainly because if you leave then you are not entitled to NHS treatment.
Oh well, you learn something new every day. I have never done it as I head back to Australia for the 3rd time..........
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..and just as the weather is getting nice here. Have anice trip!
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